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Contributor: ~LaUr3n~ ~LaUr3n~
When you feel you have been down voted, what do you do or not do and why? Are you afraid to do certain things? e.g. talk to the person and ask?

P.S. I want everyone to know that you can ALWAYS message me if you feel I did the above (for any reason!). I know I have a real reason for every vote and I would be more than happy to let you know why I voted why I did! That is how we get better! I also welcome comments on my reviews as well. We can never be perfect and can all improve.
Answers (private voting - your screen name will NOT appear in the results):
Report
8
Retailiate Vote
2
Talk to them
26
Get upset
44
Don't care
42
Do nothing
163
Other
17
Total votes: 302 (214 voters)
Poll is closed
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Contributor: ~LaUr3n~ ~LaUr3n~
Crap there should have been a message them option. I guess you can use other for that.
01/06/2011
Contributor: fghjkl fghjkl
I don't think it's fair at all. I've had one person do it to me a couple of times on the first few reviews that I wrote and it kinda hurt my feelings to tell you the truth. I emailed Kristi and she contacted them and they haven't been down voting since...
01/06/2011
Contributor: Gunsmoke Gunsmoke
I'm sorry - what is the question? I assume most of us are not politicians who get voted out of office or on reality shows - getting voted off the island.

So what are we getting 'down voted' on?
01/06/2011
Contributor: ~LaUr3n~ ~LaUr3n~
Quote:
Originally posted by Gunsmoke
I'm sorry - what is the question? I assume most of us are not politicians who get voted out of office or on reality shows - getting voted off the island.

So what are we getting 'down voted' on?
LOL our reviews silly.
01/06/2011
Contributor: Gunsmoke Gunsmoke
Honestly I don't even notice. I just write my review and let it be. It may have happened to me and I wouldn't even know it - so I guess I'll vote 'don't care'
01/06/2011
Contributor: ~LaUr3n~ ~LaUr3n~
Quote:
Originally posted by fghjkl
I don't think it's fair at all. I've had one person do it to me a couple of times on the first few reviews that I wrote and it kinda hurt my feelings to tell you the truth. I emailed Kristi and she contacted them and they haven't been ... more
I don't look go back and look at my votes much anymore, so I don't notice if anyone does it to me often. I actually notice it on other people reviews much more. I have noticed that it is usually newer people, so I don't care much. I'll report for others when I see it repeatedly, but usually I message someone about their vote and how I could improve if it was bad enough (but this is seldom). But sometimes it's obvious and not even worth the time.

*** I had an idea to possibly cut down on retaliation voting. What if the individual people who voted was not visible to the person who wrote the review, but to everyone else. Instead...that pink multi bar scale of overall usefulness would appear where the individual votes are (but only for the person who wrote the review). That way they would know if they review needed improvement, but would not know who voted which way to create the overall useful score. Did that make ANY sense? LMAO
01/06/2011
Contributor: Carrie Ann Carrie Ann
Quote:
Originally posted by ~LaUr3n~
I don't look go back and look at my votes much anymore, so I don't notice if anyone does it to me often. I actually notice it on other people reviews much more. I have noticed that it is usually newer people, so I don't care much. ... more
Uh...

That wouldn't work. All someone would have to do is create another account - or log in with their boyfriend's - and they'd see all the votes, after which they could run around down-voting merrily whilst claiming they couldn't do that cuz they couldn't see the votes cuz they'd think no one would figure it out.

Holy run on sentence, batman.
01/06/2011
Contributor: Pleasure Piratess Pleasure Piratess
I think someone did that to me recently, but didn't really know what to make of it, much less what to do about it.
To have all ratings of "extremely useful" and then one of "not useful at all" seemed a little strange to me.
01/06/2011
Contributor: Angel deSanguine Angel deSanguine
Quote:
Originally posted by ~LaUr3n~
When you feel you have been down voted, what do you do or not do and why? Are you afraid to do certain things? e.g. talk to the person and ask?

P.S. I want everyone to know that you can ALWAYS message me if you feel I did the above (for any ... more
I had this happen to one of my reviews the other day actually! It was one that I had posted a follow-up review on. I messaged the person and very politely asked why they voted how they did- basically what did I leave out/ could have worded better so that I can improve upon my reviews. I always want criticism (as long as you're not an asshole about it) because that's how I improve. If I don't know what's lacking I can't very well add it!

I never received a response and honestly it does bother me. I take a lot of time and effort to write reviews, especially when it's one that is a negative review because I don't want to just bash the item. It upsets me when someone votes it down without bothering to put a reason why and when I ask doesn't have the courtesy to respond.

I guess I'm looking at it from my perspective in that if someone asks for my honest opinion or help with something I would consider myself very rude to not help them out- I LIKE to help people, that's why I review!
01/06/2011
Contributor: LicentiouslyYours LicentiouslyYours
Quote:
Originally posted by Carrie Ann
Uh...

That wouldn't work. All someone would have to do is create another account - or log in with their boyfriend's - and they'd see all the votes, after which they could run around down-voting merrily whilst claiming they ... more
You don't even have to log into another account. Voting results are public, without having to be logged in.

Regardless, I do believe, Lauren, that you were one of the people who called for voting to be public so people could be held accountable for their votes. Hiding them from the person you vote on seems to defeat that purpose, does it not?
01/06/2011
Contributor: ToyTimeTim ToyTimeTim
I usually just ask them, on the profile page or through the PM, if there was some more info I could provide for them. But really it does not bother me anymore.

No one has ever asked me why I voted the way I did.
01/06/2011
Contributor: Tuesday Tuesday
If anyone received a lower vote than you hoped from me, its likely because there wasn't enough discussion of how the toy worked for you in actual use. Seems like I've read quite a number of reviews lately that completely or almost completely skipped that critical section.

I guess this is off topic. That's not actually down voting for spite or personal gain.
01/06/2011
Contributor: ToyGeek ToyGeek
This is definitely not something I lay awake at night worrying over, but I do worry I'll click the wrong little circle and hurt someone's feelings, so I don't vote on reviews from the computer with the twitchy mouse any more.
01/06/2011
Contributor: LicentiouslyYours LicentiouslyYours
Quote:
Originally posted by Tuesday
If anyone received a lower vote than you hoped from me, its likely because there wasn't enough discussion of how the toy worked for you in actual use. Seems like I've read quite a number of reviews lately that completely or almost completely ... more
Yeah, I don't consider the individual low vote to be down voting... if I find a review lacking something I wanted to know, I will vote it lower because..I find it less useful to me personally.

To me, down voting involves a more systematic, repeated vote that is lower than the average vote given on many reviews for the same person. When it seems like it's more than just an isolated occurance.
01/06/2011
Contributor: Illusional Illusional
If someone votes me down, I usually ask them.
I don't flip out or anything, but when an active member of the community finds my review lacking, I guess I'm sort of curious why.
01/06/2011
Contributor: VieuxCarre VieuxCarre
What makes me mad about the down voting is that the people who have down voted me as of late have been people who have not contributed one thing to Eden. No reviews, no forum posts, no nothing. It kind of irks me that they're allowed to just vote without having done anything to become involved here.
01/06/2011
Contributor: LicentiouslyYours LicentiouslyYours
Quote:
Originally posted by VieuxCarre
What makes me mad about the down voting is that the people who have down voted me as of late have been people who have not contributed one thing to Eden. No reviews, no forum posts, no nothing. It kind of irks me that they're allowed to just ... more
Voting isn't a privilege you earn by being involved. Voting is a tool to assess how informative a review was found to be by anybody who might be shopping for a toy.

You don't have to be a reviewer to be qualified to have an opinion on the usefulness of a review. The reviews we write are supposed to be for ALL customers interested in knowing more about a product, not just other reviewers.
01/06/2011
Contributor: VieuxCarre VieuxCarre
Quote:
Originally posted by LicentiouslyYours
Voting isn't a privilege you earn by being involved. Voting is a tool to assess how informative a review was found to be by anybody who might be shopping for a toy.

You don't have to be a reviewer to be qualified to have an opinion on ... more
I get that, but there is no useful feedback left in the form of a comment to say what exactly is missing or what he/she would like to know. I could understand if that was the case, but it's not.
01/06/2011
Contributor: Redboxbaby Redboxbaby
Quote:
Originally posted by VieuxCarre
What makes me mad about the down voting is that the people who have down voted me as of late have been people who have not contributed one thing to Eden. No reviews, no forum posts, no nothing. It kind of irks me that they're allowed to just ... more
Agreed! That really makes me upset when I see that and the person does not participate one iota in any other way. I am with you on that idea, that in order to vote you should have to be a reviewer yourself.
01/06/2011
Contributor: Redboxbaby Redboxbaby
Quote:
Originally posted by LicentiouslyYours
Voting isn't a privilege you earn by being involved. Voting is a tool to assess how informative a review was found to be by anybody who might be shopping for a toy.

You don't have to be a reviewer to be qualified to have an opinion on ... more
I see your point, but I see this happening a lot lately and the people leaving the low votes do not hardly participate and rarely leave feedback.
01/06/2011
Contributor: Redboxbaby Redboxbaby
Quote:
Originally posted by Redboxbaby
Agreed! That really makes me upset when I see that and the person does not participate one iota in any other way. I am with you on that idea, that in order to vote you should have to be a reviewer yourself.
Or should at least be an active participant.
01/06/2011
Contributor: LicentiouslyYours LicentiouslyYours
Quote:
Originally posted by VieuxCarre
I get that, but there is no useful feedback left in the form of a comment to say what exactly is missing or what he/she would like to know. I could understand if that was the case, but it's not.
I know what you are saying. I know I often do not leave a comment on a review I vote low on because someone else has already said what I was going to say—and beating a dead horse is just not nice.

And sometimes I'm just tired and think the writer is hopeless and can think of no nice way to say "you, just shouldn't write..anything."

Kidding. The secret is to not sweat the small stuff. You have a good, overall rank and that is a culmination of all your reviews, ratings, participation, etc.

A few bad votes, in the scheme of things, are just not worth the angst, yanno?
01/06/2011
Contributor: VieuxCarre VieuxCarre
Quote:
Originally posted by LicentiouslyYours
I know what you are saying. I know I often do not leave a comment on a review I vote low on because someone else has already said what I was going to say—and beating a dead horse is just not nice.

And sometimes I'm just tired and think the ... more
Oh, I know. And I feel the same way about finding nice things to say about some things

Just wanted to contribute
01/06/2011
Contributor: Shellz31 Shellz31
Quote:
Originally posted by VieuxCarre
What makes me mad about the down voting is that the people who have down voted me as of late have been people who have not contributed one thing to Eden. No reviews, no forum posts, no nothing. It kind of irks me that they're allowed to just ... more
I have found the same.
One of my best reviews so far got all extremely useful from all the regular users here and 4 people who had done nothing (at that stage) came along and voted just useful.

That really annoys me cause they haven't done anything on the site and yet they have the audacity to down vote when everyone else votes the highest.
To me, it appears as though they are petty or jealous!
01/06/2011
Contributor: Shellz31 Shellz31
Quote:
Originally posted by VieuxCarre
I get that, but there is no useful feedback left in the form of a comment to say what exactly is missing or what he/she would like to know. I could understand if that was the case, but it's not.
None left me any comments either about how to improve on the review.
It's just strange that everyone else was very happy with what they read.

Personally, if someone wants to mark me down and doesn't have a comment to back up the vote (unless someone else has stated the issue in a earlier comment), then I'd rather not receive the vote.
If ya have the time to vote lower, take the time to comment on where the review can be improved - that's how we all learn! Other wise we continue to fall short if we're not aware of the problem.
01/06/2011
Contributor: Naughty Student Naughty Student
Quote:
Originally posted by Shellz31
I have found the same.
One of my best reviews so far got all extremely useful from all the regular users here and 4 people who had done nothing (at that stage) came along and voted just useful.

That really annoys me cause they haven't ... more
Maybe they don't understand how the system works...just a an alternative explanation

I haven't really noticed it on my reviews. I did notice it in the past but now I don't really mind. If someone is downvoting me, they're prob doing it to others too so it all evens out, lol. Seriously though, I don't really care unless the person would do it to spite me for something I could have said in the forums that they didn't agree with.
01/06/2011
Contributor: VieuxCarre VieuxCarre
Quote:
Originally posted by Shellz31
I have found the same.
One of my best reviews so far got all extremely useful from all the regular users here and 4 people who had done nothing (at that stage) came along and voted just useful.

That really annoys me cause they haven't ... more
Being voted "useful" isn't really down voting. Being voted "worth reading, but not useful" and "not useful at all" would be considered down voting. There is a fine line between extremely useful and useful. Useful won't harm your ranking. Seriously. Be grateful that they think you're reviews are useful.
01/06/2011
Contributor: Owl Identified Owl Identified
When it's happened to me I've usually just let it go. I will admit that sometimes it bothers me, but I know that most of the people are not voting with an agenda so it makes it easier for me to let it go.

I know that this majority of voters will rate my reviews as objectively as is possible, and their results will be enough for me to maintain a rank that is fair. The handful of down voters don't affect me too much.
01/06/2011
Contributor: Owl Identified Owl Identified
Quote:
Originally posted by VieuxCarre
Being voted "useful" isn't really down voting. Being voted "worth reading, but not useful" and "not useful at all" would be considered down voting. There is a fine line between extremely useful and useful. Useful ... more
I usually think (for myself) that "somewhat useful" and below is a down vote. I count "extremely useful" and "useful" both as high votes.
01/06/2011