Are There Things That Should Never Go In A Review?

Contributor: Juliettia Juliettia
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Originally posted by Victoria
We have something kind of like what you're suggesting, in the works. It's a Mentor Program. I don't want to spoil the surprise - but I will say that the suggestions for newer reviewers on how to improve and more actual involvement will be ... more
Sounds awesome. Hopefully it will help. Though, is there anything being done with the vote stacking?
02/17/2010
Contributor: MuffysPinguLove MuffysPinguLove
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Originally posted by Juliettia
Sounds awesome. Hopefully it will help. Though, is there anything being done with the vote stacking?
I was also wondering if anything was going to be done about new advanced reviewers going and voting for all of the other reviewers up for advanced. It's just something I've been noticing lately.
02/17/2010
Contributor: Darling Dove Darling Dove
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Originally posted by MuffysPinguLove
I was also wondering if anything was going to be done about new advanced reviewers going and voting for all of the other reviewers up for advanced. It's just something I've been noticing lately.
Agreed, a time limit of maybe a few weeks before they can vote in other advanced reviewers would be nice. Or saying they must have been a member for a certain amount of time, cause I know some people have accounts, are active etc but just never put in to be voted into advanced.
02/17/2010
Contributor: Jessica Elizabeth Jessica Elizabeth
I agree with a strong dislike of chat speak. I don't use it in texts, on face book, twitter or anything else unless absolutely necessary. When I have the relatively unlimited space of my blog why on earth would I talk like a high school student texting?

As for nudity in porn movie screenshots...well, what we do is centered around sex and sexuality. While it is possible to have sex with clothes on...nudity just goes with the territory. EF is indeed, not work friendly and while there is not a bunch of nude vaginae and penises running all over there is quite a lot of frank discussion of sex. More discussion that most other sex toy stores. So censoring one's personal blog from how they'd normally have it seems not quite right to me. That's just my opinion though. I'm of the opinion that if the website ends up not being comfortable for your personal tastes..well then find another one that is better suited to your taste. There's certainly plenty out there!

For what I personally don't like to see in reviews...well, a pet peeve of mine is when the reviewer didn't like the product, and says nothing about how someone else could. Perhaps it didn't work 'cuz of your body type. (Size, penis size, labia size, etc) Like, my labia are thick, maybe it didn't work 'cuz of that. I think that I should mention that it *may* work better for someone with smaller labia. Things like that. I believe it only makes the review more thorough.

Other things that I think shouldn't be in reviews is a lack of proofreading, a lack of personal experience and a lack of excitement. Face it people: reviewing sex toys is freaking FUN! Let it show through!
04/27/2010
Contributor: Airen Wolf Airen Wolf
One thing that bothers me is people asking to be advanced and then abusing reviewers who critique their reviews. I kinda feel like you are asking for a critique and it's kind of a no win scenario. If I don't post what I feel is missing or incorrect in a review of this type I get a personal email asking why I didn't...if I do I get called a condom nazi (and that was the nice one) or told that I am asking too much. It put me off for a long while but thankfully the current grops of people seem to genuinely want to improve their reviews.

One other thing that bothers me is when people are hard selling a product they only rate at 3 stars. If a product is only average in your estimation they why should EVERYONE own one? Why would a product you say is small, inferior quality and/or high maintenance be great for beginners? If you are excited about a product then hell yes I want to know that! I still base most of my purchases on reviews the product received but if it's mediocre then be as complimentary as you can and leave it at that.

Calling a jelly product safe and easy to keep clean and sanitary is flat out wrong in my book. I got the worst chemical burn on my cervix from a jelly toy I was assured was safe to use for everyone. All it needed was to be wiped down with a damp cloth...I could have permanently damaged my cervix! I know this is an extreme example but I really would like to see people taking the time to read the product rating guides before making suggestions.

I am a grammar monster intentionally using a colloquialism to make a point is one thing, but using slang excessively just looks sloppy.

My friend is a paramedic and is thinking of writing an article about the many sex toys that have been found in the "anal storage facility" as she laughingly calls it. I know people think we are being overly cautious and repetative but that's because it DOES happen. Toys are the greatest escape artists of all time, if it ain't meant to be used in the butt it should be used everywhere but!
04/28/2010
Contributor: ~LaUr3n~ ~LaUr3n~
I hate when people turn their reviews into porn novels. That's great that is made you sopping wet...but I don't need to hear about how your hubby licked it up afterward! Some sexual talk is useful to how the toy worked, but continuing to go on is necessary and un-classy in my opinion.

I think it is fine to include ways that you used a toy, even if they are not recommend AS LONG AS you include that they are NOT recommended.

I hate the chat speak as well or the slang and short hand. It looks unprofessional and unintelligent.

I find it hard to not include laugh emotions sometimes though. I use haha instead, but I don't feel that is so much better. That is something I struggle with. I am very sarcastic in humor so it can be imperative to my intention sometimes.
04/28/2010
Contributor: ~LaUr3n~ ~LaUr3n~
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Originally posted by Airen Wolf
One thing that bothers me is people asking to be advanced and then abusing reviewers who critique their reviews. I kinda feel like you are asking for a critique and it's kind of a no win scenario. If I don't post what I feel is missing or ... more
GREAT points Airen. I agree with almost all of this.
04/28/2010
Contributor: JustYourAverageGuy JustYourAverageGuy
My whole take on this topic is that a review should stand alone as informative on the product. We don't need your life story on how amazing you are in bed, because that has nothing to do with the toy or how it will perform for me.... so leave it out.

While I am the first to admit typos sneak their way into things, I try to proofread and remove them. I occasionally spot one I missed and feel bad about it.

My approach is to treat my review as if I were writing it for an "adult" consumer reports rating/review. Or something you'd read on CNet for electronics... A review should be informative for the reader and not an ego booster for the writer on how good they are in bed or how wet they get, etc...
04/28/2010
Contributor: Elodie Elodie
If a review has terrible grammar and spelling, I won't even read it.

I sometimes see people saying toys are "great for beginners" that have super-strong vibrations, or are quite girthy. Maybe it's just me (as a beginner), but I think some of those toys are for intermediate or even advanced users. So I think that's something to watch out for.
04/28/2010
Contributor: Hannah Savage Hannah Savage
It also really irks me when people can't stop and take the time to write an intelligent, semi-professional review that has at least been put through some sort of spelling check. I'm sorry, but lol, omg, wtf, etc., are not words. Take the extra two seconds and write out what you actually mean to say.

I agree with Angel deSanguine, unless English is not your primary language, we were all taught in Elementary School the difference between you're/your, their/they're/there, to/two/too, and so on. Once again, more often than not, a program like Word will catch these grammatical errors. I get really excited about Video Reviews because they're not as common, but sometimes the videos are so horrible! Loud music or noise in the background, little helpful content actually provided, going off topic, etc.

People need to keep in mind that their reviews can include subjective, personal opinions but that we are here to provide more information for the consumer, not to talk about ourselves. If you truly feel that a product has serious issues (unsafe, poor quality, unsanitary) state the factual reasons why, don't just tell us why it didn't work for YOU.

There are some Advanced Reviewers that I find myself questioning how they got there. Do people just toss out votes, or do they really read the reviews? I think that community voting for an upgrade was a good idea, but that maybe a little more should be implemented into the process, as it can be manipulated. I'm glad to see that Victoria has hinted at this, and I look forward to seeing what will be happening in the future.
04/28/2010
Contributor: ~LaUr3n~ ~LaUr3n~
Another unnecessary thing is repeating the entire sizing chart. I can understand doing it for the size you got because you are comparing your body to the supposed sizes.

It is just "filler".
05/01/2010
Contributor: Rayne Millaray Rayne Millaray
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Originally posted by LikeSunshineDust
I agree with Sundae on the chat speak: no LOL's, OMG's, And no emoticons.

Also, please PLEASE proofread! Call me a snob, but if the first sentence in your review is a run-on, then I don't even want to finish reading it. It's ... more
Disclaimer: I know none of this was aimed at me. I'm not offended. I'm just tossing my two cents in.

I have a tendency to write the way I speak. So if I'm smiling, or laughing, or what have you, I try to reflect that in my writing. Besides that, inflection and tone are often difficult to reflect on the internet. For that reason, I'm willing to forgive LOLs and emoticons. Well, that and I occasionally use them. =D

One of my favorite writing rules is "Learn the rules of grammar, then break them." A place for everything, and everything in its place. Run-on sentences are a part of my personality. If I get excited about something, I will literally talk until I'm blue in the face. So I use them, too.

There's nothing wrong with intentional grammatical errors used for emphasis or humor. Honestly, I don't see these things as "unprofessional" so long as they don't detract from the review in anyway. Especially in an environment where we're encouraged to have fun, be ourselves and be honest. It's the ones that are unintentional (spelling mistakes, incorrect punctuation, etc.) we should be avoiding.

As for things I don't like seeing in reviews? Bashing other reviews or reviewers. I haven't seen it so much lately as I did when I first began reviewing. But when I do, it leaves a bad taste in my mouth. There are ways of saying you disagree with someone without ripping them to pieces.

***As an aside, a big fat "Ew!" to MS Office and Office Live. Use Open Office. It has all the same features, it's not owned by Microsoft, and it's free, which makes it that much better.
05/01/2010
Contributor: Elodie Elodie
Oh, definitely, a review that plays with grammar as a stylistic choice is very different from a review that's just a wall of poor grammar and spelling from beginning to end.

I also love Open Office.
05/01/2010
Contributor: Jul!a Jul!a
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Originally posted by ~LaUr3n~
Another unnecessary thing is repeating the entire sizing chart. I can understand doing it for the size you got because you are comparing your body to the supposed sizes.

It is just "filler".
I add as condensed a version as I can of the other sizing charts just so that if somebody who isn't the same size as me is interested in the set they can see the sizing right there without having to go look, because even though it's simple enough to find, some people might not be able to find it.
05/01/2010
Contributor: ~LaUr3n~ ~LaUr3n~
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Originally posted by Jul!a
I add as condensed a version as I can of the other sizing charts just so that if somebody who isn't the same size as me is interested in the set they can see the sizing right there without having to go look, because even though it's simple ... more
I didn't mention you and I don't know if you have done this in excess. But if that's why you have done it or do it, I would provide a link instead.
I want more info I can't find on here. Just a personal preference.

I know some reviewers here feel that sometimes too much info makes the review less useful because it is not easy to find the info you want.

Guessing is never good either. I think someone mentioned this too though.

I think for the most part the present group of reviews always does a great job at writing reviews so they are useful.
05/01/2010
Contributor: Jul!a Jul!a
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Originally posted by ~LaUr3n~
I didn't mention you and I don't know if you have done this in excess. But if that's why you have done it or do it, I would provide a link instead.
I want more info I can't find on here. Just a personal preference.

I know ... more
Oh I didn't think it was directed at me, I was just giving the reason that I do it. It usually end up being just a few lines and I only do it on items that have more than one size available. I could put in a link, but I know personally I would rather not have to click on a link and wait for a new window to open if I could have the info right there.

I think that if it's small it doesn't take away from anything.
05/01/2010
Contributor: VieuxCarre VieuxCarre
Never make a blanket statement about people. I read a review recently that mildly offended me with the term usage and I would hate for others to be turned off from the product as well as the review because of what someone believes is alright to say.

If you want to say that something made you feel "like a dirty whore" or other terms, that's fine to put in the experience section about you. Don't make it a blanket statement for the toy. Some people may not want to associate using a product with that term.

Just my .02
05/01/2010
Contributor: Miss Cinnamon Miss Cinnamon
I find it a little disappointing when a review starts out with "well, there are already tons of reviews about this product already, so I don't know what more I can say..." Just say all of it--describe the product, how you feel about it, what you like about it and what you don't. I understand that no one wants to be repetitive, but if I am considering purchasing a product and the first review I read says "well, all the other reviews have already said this, so I'm not gonna say it again", that review is pretty much useless to me.

My advice is to imagine that your review is the one and only review for this product. You want your review to be the one-stop shop for a legit opinion and a solid description of the toy. You don't have to shove measurements up your reader's nose, but you definitely need to comment on the size, shape, texture... Just because someone else has already said it in another review doesn't mean it isn't useful for you to say it in yours, in your own words.
05/01/2010
Contributor: Sir Sir
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Originally posted by Miss Cinnamon
I find it a little disappointing when a review starts out with "well, there are already tons of reviews about this product already, so I don't know what more I can say..." Just say all of it--describe the product, how you feel about it, ... more
I like this. You're right, Miss Cinnamon, I agree.

But I will say, I've seen people vote on others' reviews badly simply because they were "repetitive," when other reviews said the same thing. Which should be discouraged, because consistency with reviews means that the product is either consistently good or bad.
05/01/2010
Contributor: Adriana Ravenlust Adriana Ravenlust
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Originally posted by VieuxCarre
Never make a blanket statement about people. I read a review recently that mildly offended me with the term usage and I would hate for others to be turned off from the product as well as the review because of what someone believes is alright to ... more
Agreed.
05/02/2010
Contributor: VieuxCarre VieuxCarre
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Originally posted by Miss Cinnamon
I find it a little disappointing when a review starts out with "well, there are already tons of reviews about this product already, so I don't know what more I can say..." Just say all of it--describe the product, how you feel about it, ... more
I agree and I want to add to your thought. I recently did a review on lubricant that had 67 reviews, 68 now with mine added. Yes, that's a lot of reviews, but they're all unique in their own right. Reviewing something a lot of other people have reviewed isn't a bad thing at all. It's nice to have different opinions and points of view. It gives variation and several different perspectives for buyers to approach a product from.
05/02/2010
Contributor: Miss Cinnamon Miss Cinnamon
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Originally posted by Sir
I like this. You're right, Miss Cinnamon, I agree.

But I will say, I've seen people vote on others' reviews badly simply because they were "repetitive," when other reviews said the same thing. Which should be ... more
I haven't noticed down-voting on the principle of "repetitiveness", but that's definitely not cool. Obviously, if a review is a direct copy of another copy, then that's just plain plagiarism. However, two or more people can obviously share an opinion! You're right; consistency in reviews is a really good indicator for shoppers about the agreed-upon quality of the toy. Not that reviews that disagree on a product are bad, either. All types of reviews are valuable, as long as they are honest!
05/02/2010
Contributor: Adriana Ravenlust Adriana Ravenlust
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Originally posted by VieuxCarre
I agree and I want to add to your thought. I recently did a review on lubricant that had 67 reviews, 68 now with mine added. Yes, that's a lot of reviews, but they're all unique in their own right. Reviewing something a lot of other people ... more
As a reviewer, I just don't.. when an item has that many reviews. I don't want to read it as a customer, either.
05/02/2010
Contributor: softcoeur softcoeur
Here's one thing I've wondered about: is it considered OK in a review to mention other products by brand or name, to provide comparison?
05/04/2010
Contributor: ~LaUr3n~ ~LaUr3n~
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Originally posted by Miss Cinnamon
I find it a little disappointing when a review starts out with "well, there are already tons of reviews about this product already, so I don't know what more I can say..." Just say all of it--describe the product, how you feel about it, ... more
Great points! Yea, why read a review form someone that doesn't bother to add everything. I actually purposefully do not read anyone else's reviews on the same product before i write it and I rarely read them after. Only if I am unsure about something or thought that maybe I had a dud.
05/04/2010
Contributor: ~LaUr3n~ ~LaUr3n~
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Originally posted by Sir
I like this. You're right, Miss Cinnamon, I agree.

But I will say, I've seen people vote on others' reviews badly simply because they were "repetitive," when other reviews said the same thing. Which should be ... more
I totally agree with this as well. I do not down-rate based on repetitiveness. But, I do make the distinction between useful and extrem. useful if someone has done extra work to be creative and add new interesting things.
05/04/2010
Contributor: Rockin' Rockin'
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Originally posted by softcoeur
Here's one thing I've wondered about: is it considered OK in a review to mention other products by brand or name, to provide comparison?
It's fine to mention other products; I've seen a lot of reviews do that. For instance, a lot of people compare the power of the Hitachi to other toys. I think it'd be a bit awkward to compare to a toy not sold here at EF, though, if you wanted to mention the toy by name/brand.
05/04/2010
Contributor: Airen Wolf Airen Wolf
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Originally posted by Sir
I like this. You're right, Miss Cinnamon, I agree.

But I will say, I've seen people vote on others' reviews badly simply because they were "repetitive," when other reviews said the same thing. Which should be ... more
Absolutely! Often when I am torn between two toys I will read the reviews specifically looking for the overlap of experience so repetitive works for me! Sometimes the reviews are wildly different and that can indicate that the product isn't uniform in function, something that is necessary for more expensive toys.
05/04/2010
Contributor: Luscious Lily Luscious Lily
Reviews should never, ever, EVER be used as a venue for preaching against masturbation! Whether it's "oh, that area's dirty, I love having a long vibrator so I can orgasm without putting my hands down there!" or "masturbating [in this manner] is bad for you [for reasons X, Y, and Z]; this toy is awesome because it will help you break those habits and masturbate RIGHT!"

I've almost never seen anything like that here at EF, but they make my blood boil. Seriously, who are you to try to shame me for my sexuality?

The same goes for homophobia in reviews. I once read a blog review of a butt plug where the male reviewer went on and on about how it was for his wife, these were his wife's experiences, he'd never consider using it himself because that's SO GAY... I was disgusted. I hope that kind of review never migrates into our reviewing community.
05/04/2010
Contributor: Luscious Lily Luscious Lily
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Originally posted by Airen Wolf
Absolutely! Often when I am torn between two toys I will read the reviews specifically looking for the overlap of experience so repetitive works for me! Sometimes the reviews are wildly different and that can indicate that the product isn't ... more
Agreed! A large number of uniformly positive reviews that all talk about the same good features of a product tell me that the company has good quality control. There's a certain company that makes one of my favorite vibrators, that I will never be comfortable giving a blanket recommendation for because they have AWFUL quality control. Everyone I've talked to who owns one has had a slightly different experience, and no one had one quite like mine. I'm actually worried I won't be able to replace it when it dies!

Piles of positive reviews, with the only negatives saying that it's a good toy that just wasn't right for them? Means it's a good product with great quality control!
05/04/2010