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Contributor: XxXxX XxXxX
I just saw someone rate the editor of a review with a mid-rating rather that a high rating when the review was free of errors, the grammer was top notch and there was literally NOTHING wrong with it. Granted, it was not a good review. But it is not the editors job to write a good review, it is their job to 'EDIT' the review. Am I wrong? I just had to add an excellent rating for them.

Does anyone else see a problem with this?
12/03/2012
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Contributor: Beck Beck
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Originally posted by XxXxX
I just saw someone rate the editor of a review with a mid-rating rather that a high rating when the review was free of errors, the grammer was top notch and there was literally NOTHING wrong with it. Granted, it was not a good review. But it is not ... more
This happens all the time. Don't worry about it. There is nothing that can be done. Some people are giving an honest vote and some people are just voting down because they can. Either way rating of the editor really doesn't do anything. Even with a bunch of poor votes. Ultimately the rating of the editors job is up to the administration. They don't have time to read each and every review. So, only the very poorly edited ones are even brought to their attention. This is only when someone messages Sammi to let her know.

Rating of the editor, in my opinion, is unfair. At least the way it's done. The student/reviewer can go back and edit anything they want. So, the editor could have done an excellent job editing the review, but the reviewer went in an changed everything, and now we are all voting down their job. I rarely vote on the editor job because of this.
12/03/2012
Contributor: Trysexual Trysexual
I can't speak for the one you are referring to, but just in the last 24 hrs, I've seen at least 5 edited reviews that were riddled with mistakes and completely missing commas. The sad thing is the reviews were short (3-4 paragraphs at most), so it couldn't have taken more than 2 minutes to edit.

I wonder how some of these people passed the editing test, because it is pretty challenging.

There are still those who down vote for no good reason though, but on the other side, you have people voting editors excellent when there are several mistakes.

IF you look at the voting guide for editing, it says 0 errors are excellent, 1 error is good and more than 1 error is poor. I only just recently noticed that. Maybe you overlooked an error?

Or maybe they just voted indiscriminately for the points?
12/04/2012
Contributor: Kindred Kindred
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Originally posted by Trysexual
I can't speak for the one you are referring to, but just in the last 24 hrs, I've seen at least 5 edited reviews that were riddled with mistakes and completely missing commas. The sad thing is the reviews were short (3-4 paragraphs at most), ... more
Just to clarify, there are no points awarded for editor voting.
12/04/2012
Contributor: XxXxX XxXxX
Quote:
Originally posted by Trysexual
I can't speak for the one you are referring to, but just in the last 24 hrs, I've seen at least 5 edited reviews that were riddled with mistakes and completely missing commas. The sad thing is the reviews were short (3-4 paragraphs at most), ... more
I may have missed an error. I'll be the first to admit that I was declined twice for becoming an editor. But it really did look nearly perfect, as for the editing job. The review was terrible and only a couple of short paragraphs.

Now that I know that it really doesn't effect the editor that much, I feel a little less irked by it. It just seemed to be one of those fly by ratings. The comment they had left was just 'Thank'... not even 'Thanks' lol.

I know, just with the articles that I submit, that editors really have their work cut out for them and just thought that it was rude.
12/04/2012
Contributor: TheirPet TheirPet
Ugh, I don't know why someone would rate down just cause they could.
12/04/2012
Contributor: Trysexual Trysexual
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Originally posted by Kindred
Just to clarify, there are no points awarded for editor voting.
There are pts for voting on editors rating. Maybe not for the editor, but for the reader.
12/04/2012
Contributor: Airen Wolf Airen Wolf
(EF Review Program Mentor)
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Originally posted by Trysexual
There are pts for voting on editors rating. Maybe not for the editor, but for the reader.
No points are awarded for voting on editors only for voting on the review itself.
12/04/2012
Contributor: Trysexual Trysexual
Then why do I get a pop up with 2 pts whenever I vote?
12/04/2012
Contributor: XxXxX XxXxX
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Originally posted by Trysexual
Then why do I get a pop up with 2 pts whenever I vote?
I'm not sure, I tested it out and Only get 2 points for voting on the reviewer. No points when voting on the editor.
12/04/2012
Contributor: Sirena Sirena
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Originally posted by XxXxX
I just saw someone rate the editor of a review with a mid-rating rather that a high rating when the review was free of errors, the grammer was top notch and there was literally NOTHING wrong with it. Granted, it was not a good review. But it is not ... more
That is sad. I wish people were more honest with their reviews.
12/04/2012
Contributor: Cinnyree Cinnyree
i only rate down the editor if it is so full of mistakes that it is hard to read or if it has absolutely no information in the review.
one or two commas missing or a couple words spelled wrong doesn't bother me, it's when it looks like the editor put no effort into editing at all that i rate down.
12/04/2012
Contributor: Trysexual Trysexual
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Originally posted by XxXxX
I'm not sure, I tested it out and Only get 2 points for voting on the reviewer. No points when voting on the editor.
I stand corrected. I don't know if it recently changed, but I swear I used to get points for voting for the editor, but now I see I don't. I suppose that is why hardly anyone bothers. I guess there is no incentive. Seems some reviews are just getting rubber stamped too.
12/05/2012
Contributor: Trysexual Trysexual
This might help for those who never noticed.

Copied from the ? box by the editor rating area:

Votes for the editor should be based on the spelling, grammar, capitalization, and punctuation in a review. These votes help Eden determine if an editor is consistent in their proofreading and good enough to be in the Proofreading Program. If you found no errors while reading, the editor did an 'excellent' job. If you found one error or a few areas that were questionable, but overall the review was well read, the editor did a 'good' job. If you found two or more obvious errors, the editor did a 'poor' job

So by that a missed comma or spelled word would be "good". That all makes sense to me. Their job is to edit, so voting excellent when there are a couple mistakes doesn't help anyone.

I do vote on editors about half the time, but there is not much incentive really. I already am pretty sure I have had retaliatory votes from voting on an editors work as poor, because it's obvious when 1 or 2 people have voted, who voted what (ie: voting my review 'Not useful at all' when it has nothing but EU votes in response to an editing vote). But when a review is full of mistakes, that is what you are supposed to do! I've found myself voting good a few times, when I should be voting poor, because I don't want the backlash.

I don't think names should appear on editing voting, so people can be more honest. I have people on my follow list that are nice, well meaning people, but they lack grammar skills and I feel bad voting them down when it's necessary, so I sometimes vote good instead of poor or abstain altogether, so they don't think I have some vendetta against them.
01/09/2013
Contributor: Mrs.Tee Mrs.Tee
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Originally posted by XxXxX
I just saw someone rate the editor of a review with a mid-rating rather that a high rating when the review was free of errors, the grammer was top notch and there was literally NOTHING wrong with it. Granted, it was not a good review. But it is not ... more
I have also seen this myself. But as long as it doesnt count against the editor, which would be totally unfair. But i have seen many reviews were the editor gets a low rating. Personally, I dont even think that there is no need for their to even be a slot where you can rate the editor.
02/11/2013
Contributor: jennifur77 jennifur77
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Originally posted by Trysexual
This might help for those who never noticed.

Copied from the ? box by the editor rating area:

Votes for the editor should be based on the spelling, grammar, capitalization, and punctuation in a review. These votes help Eden determine if ... more
Thanks for that. I've always wondered about editor voting!
02/26/2013
Contributor: MrWill MrWill
I've noticed myself that there are a few editors who aren't even fixing errors in the TITLE of reviews.

That irks me like no other.
03/04/2013
Contributor: KinkyKatieJames KinkyKatieJames
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Originally posted by Trysexual
This might help for those who never noticed.

Copied from the ? box by the editor rating area:

Votes for the editor should be based on the spelling, grammar, capitalization, and punctuation in a review. These votes help Eden determine if ... more
Thanks for sharing this. I read this awhile back and it has definitely helped me with voting; in the beginning, I just stayed away from it since I didn't know the breakdown. I also agree that the name appearance is a little disconcerting. I feel awkward when I have to give a rating of "poor" because there were several errors.
03/13/2013
Contributor: Allison.Wilder Allison.Wilder
I vote 'excellent' if I didn't see any errors, 'good' if I see 1-3 minor errors and 'poor' if I see more than 3 errors.

Editing is a tough job, but the votes serve a purpose so I like to vote.

Also, I'm baffled when I see errors in the title, summary or pros/cons section. These are the first things you read in a review and it looks sloppy if it was edited poorly.
03/20/2013