I was just wondering what people's thoughts are on prodcuts ment for re-virgining yourself like liquid virgin drops and fake hymens. I personally feel that it is just another thing that make women feel ashamed about having sex
Thoughts on "re-virgin" products.
08/13/2011
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I don't have a problem with it considering many of the women who seek to restore their hymens face abuse from their families if they knew they were not virgins.
08/14/2011
I'm not one to judge other's positions. I don't know the life of someone who might choose to use it.
For me, I can see it as a potential part of sexual roleplay.
For me, I can see it as a potential part of sexual roleplay.
08/14/2011
I don't have a problem with them per se, but I don't see much point in restoring something that will be destroyed after one use anyway.
08/14/2011
There are a couple of things:
- I'm against the miss-information about female bodies that makes it necessary for women to seek this kind of products. You can't know that a woman has had sex (although the opposite is sometimes observable) - most of us don't bleed and the tightness comes from stress rather than the hymen. If my life depended on the perception of my virginity I would use that kind of product even if I haven't ever been penetrated.
- I'm against "mystery ingredients" and unsafe, untested products. Get your alum, your drying and irritating ingredients away from my coochie! Those "Chinese shrink creams" create "tightness" by inflaming and drying your skin out. Not cool.
- If somebody invents and patents a safe fake hymen (I'm thinking about a easily bursting little balloon with some red substance) those things might be a great toy for role-playing!
- I'm against the miss-information about female bodies that makes it necessary for women to seek this kind of products. You can't know that a woman has had sex (although the opposite is sometimes observable) - most of us don't bleed and the tightness comes from stress rather than the hymen. If my life depended on the perception of my virginity I would use that kind of product even if I haven't ever been penetrated.
- I'm against "mystery ingredients" and unsafe, untested products. Get your alum, your drying and irritating ingredients away from my coochie! Those "Chinese shrink creams" create "tightness" by inflaming and drying your skin out. Not cool.
- If somebody invents and patents a safe fake hymen (I'm thinking about a easily bursting little balloon with some red substance) those things might be a great toy for role-playing!
08/14/2011
I agree with the OP. These products cause shame for woman. As Wild Orchid said, the hymen does NOT denote virginity, and those "tightening" creams are horrible and can cause damage to the vagina by drying it out etc.
Women shouldn't be ashamed of their bodies. If abuse happens, it's awful. I know I simply started over. Doing anything other than get therapy to heal and continuing to live one's life. Doing something like have a "hymen replacement" is nothing but giving the abuser power he shouldn't be given. Heal, move on and enjoy love and life.
Women shouldn't be ashamed of their bodies. If abuse happens, it's awful. I know I simply started over. Doing anything other than get therapy to heal and continuing to live one's life. Doing something like have a "hymen replacement" is nothing but giving the abuser power he shouldn't be given. Heal, move on and enjoy love and life.
08/14/2011
While one cannot tell whether a woman has had sexual intercourse, I believe there is a noticeable change before and after. I'm just speaking from experience, as a previous girlfriend of mine had been assaulted, and her body was definitely different afterward. However, had I not "known" her vagina before the attack, I would not have been able to tell.
If a woman who has been raped notices changes in her vagina and feels that reversing the changes to her body will help her overcome the emotional trauma, then I would definitely support her using such a product.
I think that for women who feel like they've lost "tightness" due to "wear and tear" over the years, pelvic floor exercises will do the trick, and will have health benefits, not risks!
If a woman who has been raped notices changes in her vagina and feels that reversing the changes to her body will help her overcome the emotional trauma, then I would definitely support her using such a product.
I think that for women who feel like they've lost "tightness" due to "wear and tear" over the years, pelvic floor exercises will do the trick, and will have health benefits, not risks!
08/14/2011
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Yes.
Originally posted by
Wild Orchid
There are a couple of things:
- I'm against the miss-information about female bodies that makes it necessary for women to seek this kind of products. You can't know that a woman has had sex (although the opposite is sometimes observable) - ... more
- I'm against the miss-information about female bodies that makes it necessary for women to seek this kind of products. You can't know that a woman has had sex (although the opposite is sometimes observable) - ... more
There are a couple of things:
- I'm against the miss-information about female bodies that makes it necessary for women to seek this kind of products. You can't know that a woman has had sex (although the opposite is sometimes observable) - most of us don't bleed and the tightness comes from stress rather than the hymen. If my life depended on the perception of my virginity I would use that kind of product even if I haven't ever been penetrated.
- I'm against "mystery ingredients" and unsafe, untested products. Get your alum, your drying and irritating ingredients away from my coochie! Those "Chinese shrink creams" create "tightness" by inflaming and drying your skin out. Not cool.
- If somebody invents and patents a safe fake hymen (I'm thinking about a easily bursting little balloon with some red substance) those things might be a great toy for role-playing! less
- I'm against the miss-information about female bodies that makes it necessary for women to seek this kind of products. You can't know that a woman has had sex (although the opposite is sometimes observable) - most of us don't bleed and the tightness comes from stress rather than the hymen. If my life depended on the perception of my virginity I would use that kind of product even if I haven't ever been penetrated.
- I'm against "mystery ingredients" and unsafe, untested products. Get your alum, your drying and irritating ingredients away from my coochie! Those "Chinese shrink creams" create "tightness" by inflaming and drying your skin out. Not cool.
- If somebody invents and patents a safe fake hymen (I'm thinking about a easily bursting little balloon with some red substance) those things might be a great toy for role-playing! less
08/14/2011
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Well said!
Originally posted by
Wild Orchid
There are a couple of things:
- I'm against the miss-information about female bodies that makes it necessary for women to seek this kind of products. You can't know that a woman has had sex (although the opposite is sometimes observable) - ... more
- I'm against the miss-information about female bodies that makes it necessary for women to seek this kind of products. You can't know that a woman has had sex (although the opposite is sometimes observable) - ... more
There are a couple of things:
- I'm against the miss-information about female bodies that makes it necessary for women to seek this kind of products. You can't know that a woman has had sex (although the opposite is sometimes observable) - most of us don't bleed and the tightness comes from stress rather than the hymen. If my life depended on the perception of my virginity I would use that kind of product even if I haven't ever been penetrated.
- I'm against "mystery ingredients" and unsafe, untested products. Get your alum, your drying and irritating ingredients away from my coochie! Those "Chinese shrink creams" create "tightness" by inflaming and drying your skin out. Not cool.
- If somebody invents and patents a safe fake hymen (I'm thinking about a easily bursting little balloon with some red substance) those things might be a great toy for role-playing! less
- I'm against the miss-information about female bodies that makes it necessary for women to seek this kind of products. You can't know that a woman has had sex (although the opposite is sometimes observable) - most of us don't bleed and the tightness comes from stress rather than the hymen. If my life depended on the perception of my virginity I would use that kind of product even if I haven't ever been penetrated.
- I'm against "mystery ingredients" and unsafe, untested products. Get your alum, your drying and irritating ingredients away from my coochie! Those "Chinese shrink creams" create "tightness" by inflaming and drying your skin out. Not cool.
- If somebody invents and patents a safe fake hymen (I'm thinking about a easily bursting little balloon with some red substance) those things might be a great toy for role-playing! less
08/14/2011
While the existence of these products upsets me, I am more upset by the reasons they exist and not the products themselves.
If women were not treated like property, abused for their sexuality, or made to feel dirty or broken after assault then there would not be a need for these "re-virgin" products.
If women were not treated like property, abused for their sexuality, or made to feel dirty or broken after assault then there would not be a need for these "re-virgin" products.
08/14/2011
There are so many things that, I believe, make women feel ashamed of their bodies and its hard to support anything that cultivates that even more. For instance, there are things which are supposed to make us: smell better, taste better, look better.
08/14/2011
don't have a problem with them. To each their own.
08/14/2011
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I worry about not being tight enough but I think I am rather tight.. never had a kid and if i lay off the dildos i'll be tighter it seems.
Originally posted by
cec578
I was just wondering what people's thoughts are on prodcuts ment for re-virgining yourself like liquid virgin drops and fake hymens. I personally feel that it is just another thing that make women feel ashamed about having sex
08/14/2011
I think it's an odd concept. You can't actually become a virgin again, because once you've had sex you can't erase the experience from your memory nor go back in time. I understand that in some places, the presence of a hymen and blood during the first sex act is expected, but thinking about that really breaks my heart.
08/15/2011
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Dildos won't stretch you out, so that's one less thing to worry about! But if you're worried about being tight or having good vaginal muscle tone, you could start doing kegel exercises, or purchase an exerciser here on EF.
Originally posted by
Nissa Nissa
I worry about not being tight enough but I think I am rather tight.. never had a kid and if i lay off the dildos i'll be tighter it seems.
08/15/2011
They are not for me at all. personally do not get the worlds obsession with virginity and being pure what a load of crap. My vagina isnt pure because I have had a kid or had sex. do not get it at all. I think my my vagina is purely a vagina that makes it pure to me. I do not have an issue with the products being sold if women wants them thats cool. I have a issue with the whole virginity and staying pure stuff.
08/16/2011
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Agreed. To each their own. This is the first time I've heard of products like this though.
Originally posted by
Miss Anonymous
don't have a problem with them. To each their own.
08/16/2011
I don't have a problem with it. I don't like this virginity obsession. But, hey, the whole big bad wolf seducing the virgin thing is kinda hot IMHO
10/19/2011
I'm not for those kinds of products, but I'm not against them.
10/19/2011
This is a good question.
To be honest I am torn. On the one hand, it isn't for me but everyone is entitled to their own opinion and to do with their body as they please.
On the other, though, medically speaking, as said before, the hymen doesn't play a role in being a virgin. It can be broken even riding a bike, and needless to say, I haven't met anyone who has had sex with a bike (yet...).
Spending all of that money on something to just be able to call yourself a virgin seems silly. Women shouldn't be ashamed of sexuality and having sex.
As P'Gell said, rape is another story but I agree, heal and move on. In fact, I consider myself as having lost my virginity at 3 stages in life. One was forced, but then I count when I lost my virginity to a woman, and then to a man.
If it makes you feel better about your circumstances, simply rename or rethink what you thought But to do such things for the sake of calling yourself a virgin doesn't make sense.
To be honest I am torn. On the one hand, it isn't for me but everyone is entitled to their own opinion and to do with their body as they please.
On the other, though, medically speaking, as said before, the hymen doesn't play a role in being a virgin. It can be broken even riding a bike, and needless to say, I haven't met anyone who has had sex with a bike (yet...).
Spending all of that money on something to just be able to call yourself a virgin seems silly. Women shouldn't be ashamed of sexuality and having sex.
As P'Gell said, rape is another story but I agree, heal and move on. In fact, I consider myself as having lost my virginity at 3 stages in life. One was forced, but then I count when I lost my virginity to a woman, and then to a man.
If it makes you feel better about your circumstances, simply rename or rethink what you thought But to do such things for the sake of calling yourself a virgin doesn't make sense.
10/20/2011
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I don't really like the practice. The checking for a hymen is outdated and not even true for every woman anyway. I'm a virgin and my hymen ripped during a bike accident when I was six.
Originally posted by
cec578
I was just wondering what people's thoughts are on prodcuts ment for re-virgining yourself like liquid virgin drops and fake hymens. I personally feel that it is just another thing that make women feel ashamed about having sex
And like you, I feel that it just makes women feel ashamed about sex too.
10/21/2011
I do not like the idea of them. If a women wants to use them cool by me. I am not.
10/21/2011
I've never heard of them! So I guess I really can't form an opinion...
10/21/2011
I'm not against them and the people who use them. I am against the need to use them. It's an outdated idea that ladies should have to save themselves.
10/22/2011
Fake hhymens?! WTF! Like others said, I can see a scared young girl being interested in this if they have someone who's going to "check" them. But I also believe that to be a type of sexual abuse, to force someone to let you "check" if they're a virgin or not?! Not cool! I knew a girl who everytime she'd go out, when she came back home her mother would literally use her fingers to "check" and see if her daughter had been doing anything sexual! It was sad. She done this in front of the girl's friends and it humiliated her. This was when we were teens, but now as a woman in her 20's, that abuse caused her some real issues and that's not right.
I agree that it seems these products are a way to make women feel ashamed. Do we really need more shame?! I also think it kind of gives the message that women who aren't virgins are less than, not enough? This is not a country where you will never marry if you aren't a virgin.
I honestly am not fond of the sound of these kind of products.
I agree that it seems these products are a way to make women feel ashamed. Do we really need more shame?! I also think it kind of gives the message that women who aren't virgins are less than, not enough? This is not a country where you will never marry if you aren't a virgin.
I honestly am not fond of the sound of these kind of products.
10/22/2011
I don't see a need to have a product like this. We each are what we are and circumstances always take shape changing our outlook and physical changes are just a part of that. Society make these products attractive to some I guess but really they don't change who we are or what our individual past held. The stigmas surrounding woman is what needs to be changed not our bodies.
I never really considered these for role play but if it's appealing for that purpose then to each there own but I would hope they would be safe alternatives.
I never really considered these for role play but if it's appealing for that purpose then to each there own but I would hope they would be safe alternatives.
10/22/2011
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What that woman did to her daughter was blatant sexual abuse. If you still know her, you may want to talk to her about going to the police and having an investigation launched.
Originally posted by
K101
Fake hhymens?! WTF! Like others said, I can see a scared young girl being interested in this if they have someone who's going to "check" them. But I also believe that to be a type of sexual abuse, to force someone to let you
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Fake hhymens?! WTF! Like others said, I can see a scared young girl being interested in this if they have someone who's going to "check" them. But I also believe that to be a type of sexual abuse, to force someone to let you "check" if they're a virgin or not?! Not cool! I knew a girl who everytime she'd go out, when she came back home her mother would literally use her fingers to "check" and see if her daughter had been doing anything sexual! It was sad. She done this in front of the girl's friends and it humiliated her. This was when we were teens, but now as a woman in her 20's, that abuse caused her some real issues and that's not right.
I agree that it seems these products are a way to make women feel ashamed. Do we really need more shame?! I also think it kind of gives the message that women who aren't virgins are less than, not enough? This is not a country where you will never marry if you aren't a virgin.
I honestly am not fond of the sound of these kind of products. less
I agree that it seems these products are a way to make women feel ashamed. Do we really need more shame?! I also think it kind of gives the message that women who aren't virgins are less than, not enough? This is not a country where you will never marry if you aren't a virgin.
I honestly am not fond of the sound of these kind of products. less
NO ONE has the right to do this to someone. In front of friends? This woman has something seriously wrong with her. It's a crime. Literally.
She should serve jail time and have to be a registered sex offender for doing something like this. It's a sexual assault and your friend needs to go to the police and have something done. My guess is it is done for some reason unrelated to really caring if someone is a "virgin." I would bet she has a number of victims. Sex offenders NEVER offend once.
This is a sexual assault and needs to be treated as one.
I hope she can have this woman punished for this crime.
10/22/2011
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I agree. That screams sexual abuse to me. I know that I would be humiliated beyond belief if that happened to me, especially in front of others.
Originally posted by
P'Gell
What that woman did to her daughter was blatant sexual abuse. If you still know her, you may want to talk to her about going to the police and having an investigation launched.
NO ONE has the right to do this to someone. In front of friends? ... more
NO ONE has the right to do this to someone. In front of friends? ... more
What that woman did to her daughter was blatant sexual abuse. If you still know her, you may want to talk to her about going to the police and having an investigation launched.
NO ONE has the right to do this to someone. In front of friends? This woman has something seriously wrong with her. It's a crime. Literally.
She should serve jail time and have to be a registered sex offender for doing something like this. It's a sexual assault and your friend needs to go to the police and have something done. My guess is it is done for some reason unrelated to really caring if someone is a "virgin." I would bet she has a number of victims. Sex offenders NEVER offend once.
This is a sexual assault and needs to be treated as one.
I hope she can have this woman punished for this crime. less
NO ONE has the right to do this to someone. In front of friends? This woman has something seriously wrong with her. It's a crime. Literally.
She should serve jail time and have to be a registered sex offender for doing something like this. It's a sexual assault and your friend needs to go to the police and have something done. My guess is it is done for some reason unrelated to really caring if someone is a "virgin." I would bet she has a number of victims. Sex offenders NEVER offend once.
This is a sexual assault and needs to be treated as one.
I hope she can have this woman punished for this crime. less
10/22/2011
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*nods* Yes, I agree.
Originally posted by
Kkay
I'm not one to judge other's positions. I don't know the life of someone who might choose to use it.
For me, I can see it as a potential part of sexual roleplay.
For me, I can see it as a potential part of sexual roleplay.
10/23/2011
I think they're ridiculous tbh.
10/25/2011