Just saying. Keep in mind that just eating more vegetables doesn't ensure that no animals were harmed in the making of them. Some plant makers harvest in ways which kill tons in the process.
Do you ever take into account other ways animals are harmed indirectly?
10/07/2012
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You mean by the products we buy? Or what?
When it comes to beauty/bath/skincare products, I only use vegan, non-cruelty, non-tested on animals and 100% organic, natural soaps and products. No exception unless it's a gift and I use it.
As for things I eat, well, we can only be so perfect, but I do try. I care about animals probably more than I do about my own well-being, or at least equally to.
When it comes to beauty/bath/skincare products, I only use vegan, non-cruelty, non-tested on animals and 100% organic, natural soaps and products. No exception unless it's a gift and I use it.
As for things I eat, well, we can only be so perfect, but I do try. I care about animals probably more than I do about my own well-being, or at least equally to.
10/07/2012
I'm vegetarian. I'd prefer to be vegan, but around here that's pretty expensive to do. Not many places to get vegan foods either. I try very hard to get products not tested on animals. As for things like vegetable crops killing animals...well, there's only so much a person can do unless they want to starve. If all I eat are things from crops - what would I eat if I didn't eat that?
10/07/2012
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10/21/2012
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You know, I hear this all the time, and I have to ask, what is the point of this question? Of course, if you're an ethical vegan, you are going to do everything you can. Is the point that, if you can't help but hurt an animal indirectly, that you shouldn't bother at all? Because if so, that's not such a great mentality.
Originally posted by
Kenneth Fort
Just saying. Keep in mind that just eating more vegetables doesn't ensure that no animals were harmed in the making of them. Some plant makers harvest in ways which kill tons in the process.
I know people that only eat what they grow, and make all their own personal care products as well, but that's not feasible for everyone, especially in climates that don't support year-round cultivation. I'm of the mindset that every little bit helps, and doing all you can is the way to go.
04/18/2013
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That's a good point that is frequently ignored. The main staples of the vegan diet, grains and legumes, are harvested with equipment that dismembers and kills thousands of small animals that live in the fields.
Originally posted by
Kenneth Fort
Just saying. Keep in mind that just eating more vegetables doesn't ensure that no animals were harmed in the making of them. Some plant makers harvest in ways which kill tons in the process.
Hunter-gathering is the most ecologically sound and humane subsistence practice on the planet. Unfortunately, it's been almost completely wiped out by modern agriculture, but it's making a comeback in niche circles with hunting and foraging.
I've always liked the Buddhist philosophy that it's better to eat animals that can feed a lot of people, thereby giving their life that much more value. I prefer to eat (locally raised on pasture) beef for that reason. Buffalo is great too but it's not available here.
Just being vegetarian/vegan doesn't mean one's life doesn't contribute to death or cruelty in some indirect way. On the same token, all meat eaters are not heartless and in the dark on the food supply in our industrial age. We all have to constantly question our food choices.
04/18/2013
It's very hard, if not impossible, to eliminate ALL of the harm we do in the world. But that's no reason to stop trying. It IS possible to REDUCE the amount of harm, and increase the good, through simple decisions we make every day.
If find the very best way is to live as simply as possible, mindfully, using only as much as we need. If I find something is harmful, I seek a not-harmful, or at least less-harmful, alternative.
It's not possible to be perfect. But it IS possible to keep improving all the time.
If find the very best way is to live as simply as possible, mindfully, using only as much as we need. If I find something is harmful, I seek a not-harmful, or at least less-harmful, alternative.
It's not possible to be perfect. But it IS possible to keep improving all the time.
04/18/2013
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