Sex toys in erotica/videos

Sex toys in erotica/videos

TitsMcScandal TitsMcScandal
Here at EF safety and proper use is pretty much noted in most reviews. I think it is important to get that information out there, especially with small toys that shouldn't be used for anal play. So whenever I read a piece of erotica, or watch a video and they are using a small vibrator anally I always get turned off and want to scream at the screen.

More people watch porn/read porn than read reviews/safety information. Do you think that more stories and video should stop this practice?

I feel torn, because I don't think censorship or anything is the solution. I just think that it should be more open about the dangers. How do you feel about sex toys in these materials?
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LicentiouslyYours LicentiouslyYours
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Originally posted by TitsMcScandal
Here at EF safety and proper use is pretty much noted in most reviews. I think it is important to get that information out there, especially with small toys that shouldn't be used for anal play. So whenever I read a piece of erotica, or watch a ...
I don't think porn, unless it's specifically designed to educate people about safe-sex and safe toy use, should feel obligated to practice these things any more than mainstream movies should show people always making good decisions, not committing crime, nor blowing things up.

Porn is entertainment, not education. It's about fantasy, it's not a how-to film. Not everything has to be, nor should it be all about keeping people from harming themselves.
03/18/2010
Jill Ingoff Jill Ingoff
I completely agree with Laurel. It's unfortunate that some people watch porn and then learn that some practices are the norm or safe. (Kinda OT, but I've had too many partners where I could tell they were practicing moves they saw in porn).

Unsafe sex toy use is just the tip of the iceberg in this regard.
03/18/2010
ToyGeek ToyGeek
In the fandom world, writing fanfiction with unsafe sex practices is the most taboo thing possible. This is an environment where incest stories and biological impossibilities like male pregnancy are par for the course, but that's where they draw the line. You can write pages upon pages of characters making terrible decisions in every aspect of their life, and call it drama, and the readers will gobble it up, but the second a character has anal sex without mention of lube, or uses a potentially unsafe makeshift restraint in a bondage scene, out come the torches and pitchforks. It's a fascinating phenomenon, and I'm really surprised it doesn't carry through to mainstream porn.

One of the most startling examples was a science fiction story in which a woman cloned herself and then tortured the clone with a branding iron, and people thought it was great, until the chapter came out where a man was tied to the bed with silk scarves, and the BDSM safety people screamed bloody murder until the author rewrote it with Japanese bondage rope and quick release knots. Go figure.
03/18/2010
Sammi Sammi
I also agree with Laurel. It's fantasy, and while I know that a lot of people aren't able to separate fantasy from reality, that shouldn't force the movie makers to change what they're showing on film.

The fantasy from reality phenomenon isn't just in porn - people imitate things they see from other mainstream movies as well. But should mainstream not show any of these things because some might act out something unsafe to their detriment?

I don't read much of fandom, but I'm surprised that they change their writings because some people complain. Does it happen a lot with this? What happens if they don't alter their writing? This really is fascinating.
03/18/2010
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Originally posted by LicentiouslyYours
I don't think porn, unless it's specifically designed to educate people about safe-sex and safe toy use, should feel obligated to practice these things any more than mainstream movies should show people always making good decisions, not ...
I am going to second this.
03/18/2010
ToyGeek ToyGeek
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Originally posted by Sammi
I also agree with Laurel. It's fantasy, and while I know that a lot of people aren't able to separate fantasy from reality, that shouldn't force the movie makers to change what they're showing on film.

The fantasy from ...
Oh, plenty of people don't change things when others complain, but sometimes the complaining reaches epic levels of obnoxious, and if the subject is safe sex, the writer who does it wrong is woefully outnumbered. Life tends to go smoother if one follows the established social mores of any culture, and while this particular culture as a whole is cool with pretty much anything (rape, torture, necrophilia, magically induced male pregnancies -- google 'ass babies' if you're brave, people having sex with their own clones, people who sprout wings for no adequately explained reason and then have sex while flying, you name it), they like their porn carefully labeled (be as deviant or as implausible as you like, but use the correct tags in the header) and they prefer their serial rapists to carry condoms and lube.

I've seen fandom fight viciously about racism, sexism, homophobia, religion, politics, whether or not William Shatner wearing a toupee means that Captain Kirk wore a toupee, and at what point Heroes jumped the shark, but on the subject of safe sex in fiction, they're a pretty united bunch. That, and that FOX is the most evil network. But everyone knows that.
03/18/2010
Carrie Ann Carrie Ann
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Originally posted by ToyGeek
In the fandom world, writing fanfiction with unsafe sex practices is the most taboo thing possible. This is an environment where incest stories and biological impossibilities like male pregnancy are par for the course, but that's where they draw ...
Wow. I'd have totally written it to mention a nearby pair of scissors to cut the scarves and waved a bird at anyone who didn't like it.
03/18/2010
ToyGeek ToyGeek
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Originally posted by Carrie Ann
Wow. I'd have totally written it to mention a nearby pair of scissors to cut the scarves and waved a bird at anyone who didn't like it.
That's a big part of why my fanfiction is rarely of the erotic variety. Fandom has imposed so many baffling rules on the sex scene that it's hard to write freely -- things come out sounding like a how-to manual narrated by Jean Luc Picard, bookended by Cardassian politics and Borg attacks.
03/18/2010
Miss Cinnamon Miss Cinnamon
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Originally posted by ToyGeek
In the fandom world, writing fanfiction with unsafe sex practices is the most taboo thing possible. This is an environment where incest stories and biological impossibilities like male pregnancy are par for the course, but that's where they draw ...
Man, fandoms are kerrrrazy!

If you dig around the more popular categories on fanfiction websites, like adultfanfiction.net, you get all sorts of strange subgenres. I remember the first time I read a fanfiction flying the "MPreg" (male pregnancy) flag. Poor Harry! How come he has to carry the baby? At least Draco's going out at all hours to satisfy his pregnancy cravings for strangely flavored beans.

For me, porn, hentai, erotica... All of that is purely fictional, purely fantasy. Like Laurel said, we don't go to movies and then come out thinking that murder and arson are fine. Anyone who watches a porno that doesn't use condoms or practice other "safer sex" procedures (or use lube like a normal person instead of hawking a loogie) and thinks that that's appropriate behavior in real life can only blame themselves for depending on fiction for an education.
03/18/2010
ToyGeek ToyGeek
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Originally posted by Miss Cinnamon
Man, fandoms are kerrrrazy!

If you dig around the more popular categories on fanfiction websites, like adultfanfiction.net, you get all sorts of strange subgenres. I remember the first time I read a fanfiction flying the "MPreg" ...
I should add that it's not fair to judge all of fandom just by its weird erotica habits. There's a ton of great fiction that has nothing to do with biologically impossible sex, really.

And yeah, I give adultfanfiction.net a wide berth -- I do not want to picture orgies featuring Snape or JarJar Binks. I prefer link or one of the many sites specific to the shows that interest me.
03/18/2010
Miss Cinnamon Miss Cinnamon
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Originally posted by ToyGeek
I should add that it's not fair to judge all of fandom just by its weird erotica habits. There's a ton of great fiction that has nothing to do with biologically impossible sex, really.

And yeah, I give adultfanfiction.net a wide ...
Totally true; some of us are just stranger than others

I've actually come to appreciate adultfanfiction.net for its entertainment value. Where else can I find erotica written by twelve year olds who think that the clitoris is INSIDE the vaginal canal? Or that penis-in-CERVIX sex is a delightful experience? Hermione's insta-lubrication spell was pretty cool though * trundles off to look through fanfics again *
03/19/2010
Phoenix77 Phoenix77
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Originally posted by Miss Cinnamon
Totally true; some of us are just stranger than others

I've actually come to appreciate adultfanfiction.net for its entertainment value. Where else can I find erotica written by twelve year olds who think that the clitoris is INSIDE the ...
If I were confident that our education system had more power over our youth then the porn industry, I wouldn't have any problem with the idea of using small toys anally in porn/erotica, but since I've seen enough evidence to the contrary both in personal experience and in studies, I feel that porn should at least try to show things that are safe since people use that as the "norm" rather then realizing that it's a fictional story. Sadly, no one wants to think about things that are "safe" or "real" when they would rather just get off. Of course, it shouldn't all be on the porn industry. If our culture were more open about sex, and more willing to educate our youth about safe sex, rather than just abstinence, maybe I (personally) would feel different.
03/19/2010
ToyGeek ToyGeek
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Originally posted by Miss Cinnamon
Totally true; some of us are just stranger than others

I've actually come to appreciate adultfanfiction.net for its entertainment value. Where else can I find erotica written by twelve year olds who think that the clitoris is INSIDE the ...
If anatomical inaccuracies rock your boat, there are several Live Journal communities devoted to quoting the most disturbing passages for mocking. Looking at them makes my brain hurt, but to each her own:

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03/19/2010
Andromeda Andromeda
Shooooooooot. You don't even have to go on adultfanfiction.net, you can see a lot of that on the regular fanfiction.net, and I've definitely stumbled upon fanfics that do not portray safe sex practices. Also clearly written by 12 year-olds.

@ToyGeek Of course Fox is evil. They cancelled Firefly.
03/19/2010
Miss Cinnamon Miss Cinnamon
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Originally posted by Andromeda
Shooooooooot. You don't even have to go on adultfanfiction.net, you can see a lot of that on the regular fanfiction.net, and I've definitely stumbled upon fanfics that do not portray safe sex practices. Also clearly written by 12 ...
AND Dollhouse. At least they gave Whedon enough notice to wrap up his show, though.

* sobs for Firefly *
03/19/2010
Pleasureman Pleasureman
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Originally posted by TitsMcScandal
Here at EF safety and proper use is pretty much noted in most reviews. I think it is important to get that information out there, especially with small toys that shouldn't be used for anal play. So whenever I read a piece of erotica, or watch a ...
I have seen odd things used in porn and once saw a very small vibrator used anally. I believe that the producers have an obligation to teach the public general safety but at the same time, they always have a disclaimer up discouraging many of the acts portrayed.
03/19/2010
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