#Workshop - April 13th @ 7pm: Lube Compatibility

Contributor: Antipova Antipova
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Originally posted by ToyTimeTim
OK, at this point in my testing I had to put it on hold for a couple of days. You know, a job interview was a bit more important. Anyway, I brought them out for the next set of tests and lo and behold...The damage was gone! WTF!!! No welts to be ... more
How strange!
04/13/2011
Contributor: ToyTimeTim ToyTimeTim
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Originally posted by Airen Wolf
How odd that the damage was fairly innocuous after resting in the lube for such a long period of time. Over time though I imagine the damage would become progressively worse and the toy would begin to degrade fairly quickly.
Agreed! I was expecting something along the lines of melting or something. I was defiantly surprised.
04/13/2011
Contributor: ToyTimeTim ToyTimeTim
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Originally posted by Antipova
How strange!
Very!
04/13/2011
Contributor: Airen Wolf Airen Wolf
Quote:
Originally posted by ToyTimeTim
OK, at this point in my testing I had to put it on hold for a couple of days. You know, a job interview was a bit more important. Anyway, I brought them out for the next set of tests and lo and behold...The damage was gone! WTF!!! No welts to be ... more
How very strange! Self repairing toys??? Could be the oil just softened the material and then it rehardened? Makes me wonder what would happen if the toys were relubed and left in the sun...
04/13/2011
Contributor: Jul!a Jul!a
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Originally posted by ToyTimeTim
OK, at this point in my testing I had to put it on hold for a couple of days. You know, a job interview was a bit more important. Anyway, I brought them out for the next set of tests and lo and behold...The damage was gone! WTF!!! No welts to be ... more
Now that the whole thing is done, can you put them in motor oil and test it for us? lol
04/13/2011
Contributor: Jobthingy Jobthingy
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Originally posted by Airen Wolf
How very strange! Self repairing toys??? Could be the oil just softened the material and then it rehardened? Makes me wonder what would happen if the toys were relubed and left in the sun...
sunburn.. for sure
04/13/2011
Contributor: sexyintexas sexyintexas
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Originally posted by Jul!a
Now that the whole thing is done, can you put them in motor oil and test it for us? lol
Lol!
04/13/2011
Contributor: Jobthingy Jobthingy
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Originally posted by Jul!a
Now that the whole thing is done, can you put them in motor oil and test it for us? lol
THIS!
04/13/2011
Contributor: ToyTimeTim ToyTimeTim
Quote:
Originally posted by Jul!a
Now that the whole thing is done, can you put them in motor oil and test it for us? lol
Well, stick around I did do some test that is real close.
04/13/2011
Contributor: ToyTimeTim ToyTimeTim
Well, the testing must go on.

Next up, Silicone lube. Same procedure, same time frame. I should mention that Rubber/Sil-A-Gel is suitable for silicone lube. So I did not test this material. Also, UR3 sometimes comes made with Sil-A-Gel. So, if the package has Sil-A-Gel listed, you can use Silicone lubes. This additive has become more used as of late, so I always recommend reading the package that it comes in. There are times when a toys material has been changed without the manufacturer informing the retailer about the change. When in doubt, go with a water based lube.

So first up, Silicone.



You can not see anything in the picture and neither could I. It did feel like the lube was still there, even after a couple of washings. One with the toy cleaner and one with dish soap. So the lube defiantly adhered to the material, but there was no damage to be seen. I also tried a different brand of lube, but I got the same results. On both counts, after numerous washing in friggin hot water and dish soap, the material went back to its original, like new feel. It has been said that some Silicone materials will work with some Silicone lubes, but that usually has to do with premium products. One of the lubes I used is a very “So cheap I don't even use it” brand so I am at a loss with this one.

Question/comments?
04/13/2011
Contributor: Antipova Antipova
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Originally posted by Airen Wolf
How very strange! Self repairing toys??? Could be the oil just softened the material and then it rehardened? Makes me wonder what would happen if the toys were relubed and left in the sun...
But even if it rehardened- how did it "remember" the shape to bounce back to?
04/13/2011
Contributor: Jobthingy Jobthingy
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Originally posted by ToyTimeTim
Well, stick around I did do some test that is real close.
MUWAHAHAHA! I cant wait
04/13/2011
Contributor: LadyAurora LadyAurora
Motor oil is petroleum based right?
04/13/2011
Contributor: ToyTimeTim ToyTimeTim
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Originally posted by LadyAurora
Motor oil is petroleum based right?
Yes, much like Vaseline. hint hint...
04/13/2011
Contributor: Antipova Antipova
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Originally posted by LadyAurora
Motor oil is petroleum based right?
Yep.
04/13/2011
Contributor: Vaccinium Vaccinium
That's a pretty interesting result w/ the silicone, Tim. Hmmmm.....
04/13/2011
Contributor: sexyintexas sexyintexas
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Originally posted by Antipova
But even if it rehardened- how did it "remember" the shape to bounce back to?
Like the memory metal in glasses now...hmmm. Strange.
04/13/2011
Contributor: Misfit Momma Misfit Momma
Ok all caught up. The kids decided it would be the perfect time for simultaneousness temper tantrums just as you started
04/13/2011
Contributor: LadyAurora LadyAurora
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Originally posted by Vaccinium
That's a pretty interesting result w/ the silicone, Tim. Hmmmm.....
Indeed it is!
04/13/2011
Contributor: DeliciousSurprise DeliciousSurprise
This is really interesting so far!
04/13/2011
Contributor: Airen Wolf Airen Wolf
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Originally posted by Antipova
But even if it rehardened- how did it "remember" the shape to bounce back to?
That would have to do with the tension of the toy and the molecular structure actually...I'm not a scientist so I dunno how to exactly explain it but resting in it's origional packaging might have had a lot to do with it.
04/13/2011
Contributor: sexyintexas sexyintexas
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Originally posted by Misfit Momma
Ok all caught up. The kids decided it would be the perfect time for simultaneousness temper tantrums just as you started
Ugh, I sent mine shopping with grandma..>
04/13/2011
Contributor: Jul!a Jul!a
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Originally posted by ToyTimeTim
Well, stick around I did do some test that is real close.
Oh you know I'll be here!
04/13/2011
Contributor: sexyintexas sexyintexas
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Originally posted by Airen Wolf
That would have to do with the tension of the toy and the molecular structure actually...I'm not a scientist so I dunno how to exactly explain it but resting in it's origional packaging might have had a lot to do with it.
Good point.
04/13/2011
Contributor: Antipova Antipova
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Originally posted by Airen Wolf
That would have to do with the tension of the toy and the molecular structure actually...I'm not a scientist so I dunno how to exactly explain it but resting in it's origional packaging might have had a lot to do with it.
Even with the veins on the rubber one, though? I'm puzzled. But that's all right.
04/13/2011
Contributor: ToyTimeTim ToyTimeTim
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Originally posted by Misfit Momma
Ok all caught up. The kids decided it would be the perfect time for simultaneousness temper tantrums just as you started
Thats OK, life happens. Glad you could make it.
04/13/2011
Contributor: Airen Wolf Airen Wolf
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Originally posted by ToyTimeTim
Well, the testing must go on.



Next up, Silicone lube. Same procedure, same time frame. I should mention that Rubber/Sil-A-Gel is suitable for silicone lube. So I did not test this material. Also, UR3 sometimes comes made with ... more
Could it be that we are passing on information that is based on manufacturing proceedures and materials that are years old? We have been very vocal about our love of silicone lubes and how they ruin toys...and I have had a few VERY expensive toys melted with pits and sticky slime after using silicone lube with them. This was a few years ago though and things could have changed!
04/13/2011
Contributor: LadyAurora LadyAurora
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Originally posted by ToyTimeTim
Yes, much like Vaseline. hint hint...
That's what I was aiming at. lol
04/13/2011
Contributor: ToyTimeTim ToyTimeTim
Next up TPR Silicone.

Here we can see some slight deformation It has left a welt on the material. Although with this one, instead of a bump it was sunken into the material. Kind of weird. It was hard to see but it was there.

UR3 and Cyberskin

Much of the same for these two, welts in different areas of the toy. I found it strange that the welts did not cover the whole toy, but at least there was something.

Whats really screwy, after setting for two days...The damage was gone. I am soooo at a loss.
04/13/2011
Contributor: Jobthingy Jobthingy
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Originally posted by Airen Wolf
That would have to do with the tension of the toy and the molecular structure actually...I'm not a scientist so I dunno how to exactly explain it but resting in it's origional packaging might have had a lot to do with it.
LOL but it sounds really good Airen for pulling it out of your ass.. *high 5s*
04/13/2011