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#AskEden - Why is New Mexico the only place in the contigual US to get weird shipping?

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Contributor: Ryuson Ryuson
(Review Program Mentor)
I don't know if you all have noticed the new shipping deals (now most can get free shipping over $35) but NM has always gotten the short end of the stick. We can't get overnight shipping no matter how much we buy, and now we have to spend MORE THAN WE USED TO (we have to qualify for 'expedited' shipping at $70) to get free shipping while everyone else (sans Guam, Alaska, Hawaii, Virgin Islands, etc) gets it at $35! Our prices got upped!

We have a huge airport in my city, and most places can do overnight shipping fine to us. It's weird that you guys can get it to the bottom of California faster than to here!

Is it because no one in NM knows how to work the internet and I'm the only person who's ever placed an order in the state? Are you worried your overnight planes will be attacked by Jackalopes? Are you concerned about the aliens and cow mutilations we're known for? I can assure you, we haven't had any in city limits for years!

It's just something I've been wondering for a while! Thank you!

EDIT: I just noticed, also, that the $35 shipping is listed for the DOMESTIC 48 STATES! If you exclude AK, HI, AND New Mexico shouldn't that be 47 states? Or were there 51 counting DC or something? Thanks!
06/29/2012
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Contributor: Ryuson Ryuson
(Review Program Mentor)
Bumping for the morning crowd.
06/29/2012
Contributor: Geogeo Geogeo
You've still got it better than me in Canada, where I don't get any free shipping no matter how much I buy and get screwed with customs making me pay even more.
06/29/2012
Contributor: Ansley Ansley
So...I see what you're talking about and I'm on the hunt for some answers. The person I need to speak with is in a meeting right now, but I should be able to get to them soon enough.
06/29/2012
Contributor: DeliciousSurprise DeliciousSurprise
Maybe it's just a glitch? Sounds weird that a contiguous state would be excluded. On the website for which I work, the programmers accidentally coded Maine as being Canadian so nothing could ship there.



I hope they get it sorted out!
06/29/2012
Contributor: Ansley Ansley
Hey! Ok, so here's what I've been able to determine.

UPS considers New Mexico to be a remote location, just like Alaska and Hawaii. This is why the shipping is slightly higher than the other states. A two pound package costs relatively $11.50 to ship ground. This is also why the free shipping doesn't apply to orders in NM.

If you would like you can calculate the shipping here: UPS shipping calculator

Our zip code is: 30349

If you have any more questions, feel free to send me an email.
06/29/2012
Contributor: Chilipepper Chilipepper
*speechless*
06/29/2012
Contributor: Badass Badass
Quote:
Originally posted by Ryuson
I don't know if you all have noticed the new shipping deals (now most can get free shipping over $35) but NM has always gotten the short end of the stick. We can't get overnight shipping no matter how much we buy, and now we have to spend ... more
Awe.. poor Ryu, I'm sorry to hear you are getting the short end of the stick on this..
06/29/2012
Contributor: Ansley Ansley
Quote:
Originally posted by Badass
Awe.. poor Ryu, I'm sorry to hear you are getting the short end of the stick on this..
Yeah, I hate it for her. Of course, we don't have any control over how UPS zones things but yeah... *sad face*
06/29/2012
Contributor: P'Gell P'Gell
Quote:
Originally posted by Badass
Awe.. poor Ryu, I'm sorry to hear you are getting the short end of the stick on this..
Yeah, totally sucks. Wyoming is a "remote location," too. A lot of places are. What about the states that abut New Mexico? If you live across the street, you get cheaper shipping?
06/29/2012
Contributor: DeliciousSurprise DeliciousSurprise
Quote:
Originally posted by P'Gell
Yeah, totally sucks. Wyoming is a "remote location," too. A lot of places are. What about the states that abut New Mexico? If you live across the street, you get cheaper shipping?
P'Gell--yes and no. UPS shipping rates are based on how much the package weighs and where it's going (think about it like this: how much space in their truck/plane/boat is your box going to take up, and how far does it need to go IN their truck? Weird shaped boxes that are hard to stack in a truck get charged at higher rates than standard sized boxes, which is why sometimes we get boxes that are half full of air pillows)

However... To ship to a 2lb box using UPS Ground service to me in New York (11235) is 10.89 USD. To Washington, Michigan (48094) is 13.43. To Catalina, California (90704) is 18.41. Sparks, Nevada (89434) is 14.89. And, to some lucky sonofa in Atlanta (30349), 12.01. All of these prices are directly off of the UPS website. Am I calculating wrong, because these all seem extremely expensive if 11.50 is higher than the normal cost of a package?

On a tangental note, isn't free shipping done with USPS flat-rate priority mail boxes, anyway?


I don't really have any investment in the shipping costs to New Mexico since I'm firmly planted in New York, but there are a lot of places it's just as expensive to ship to and I feel bad that NM is getting the shafty end of the stick.
06/30/2012
Contributor: Ryuson Ryuson
(Review Program Mentor)
Quote:
Originally posted by DeliciousSurprise
P'Gell--yes and no. UPS shipping rates are based on how much the package weighs and where it's going (think about it like this: how much space in their truck/plane/boat is your box going to take up, and how far does it need to go IN their ... more
This is what I was thinking, that it wasn't getting shipped ground anyways. AND the fact that I feel like Montana would be just as remote as we are! I also feel like they should change the option on the checkout to say "47 contiguous states' because otherwise it makes no sense.

According to the census we have 17 people per square mile while Montana had 7! They seem MUCH more remote than we are. I also agree with the shipping estimates that the other person said, it seems like I have one of the cheaper options, yet I get the worst deal.

I mean I don't really MIND having to pay more, I just won't place as many orders and it will make me feel bad for referring friends here, but I pay in points anyways. *shrugs*
06/30/2012
Contributor: Woman China Woman China
Thanks Stormy for that link!!!!

*falls over from a heart attack*

I just tallied how much UPS would be to my home for 2lbs in a 4lbs standard box.... oh my sweet albino lizards. And then UPS coming into China always makes us pay between 250 to 500rmb for a customs charge.

And on top of that? Waiting for two weeks.

I wonder how the shipping would work if I still lived in Nunavut???

It is terrible when a postal company or a phone company says "In all the country free!!!" then you go to make use of it and you discover you have to pay oodles more because you are in a "remote" area.

What yahoos.
06/30/2012
Contributor: Petite Valentine Petite Valentine
Quote:
Originally posted by DeliciousSurprise
P'Gell--yes and no. UPS shipping rates are based on how much the package weighs and where it's going (think about it like this: how much space in their truck/plane/boat is your box going to take up, and how far does it need to go IN their ... more
No, $35+ free shipping is UPS SurePost now. To get free USPS shipping you need to spend $69+, and even then I think there is the chance that UPS Expedited Mail Innovations (which screws up everything ) will be used.

I placed an order on Friday which is expected to ship Monday. I had the option of free UPS 3-Day select, but I chose USPS Priority instead because historically, that gets to me much faster and they will deliver on a Saturday if necessary. However, I forgot about the UPS Expedited Mail Innovations. If my package is shipped using that, then I've effectively screwed myself with a longer wait.
06/30/2012
Contributor: Sbmsvschoolgirl Sbmsvschoolgirl
I asked this same question!!!! Seriously, wtf? And it wasn't always like this, I got the free shipping a while back. I find it odd, too, that I posted this same question and my thread seems to have disappeared...
02/11/2013
Contributor: 1001 Pleasures 1001 Pleasures
I was wondering the same thing for my location (western NY). I used to be able to select UPS Next Day or 2 Day, but now it tells me I'm in a remote location. Priority Mail wouldn't be so bad if the post office had the same definition of "priority" as most people. I'm currently waiting on a first class package (non-EF) that was shipped on Feb 4 from Connecticut, a state that borders mine. Thanks to online delivery confirmation tracking, I can entertain myself by watching the parcel bounce around from town to town like a pinball.
02/13/2013