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Which of these should be a crime: animal cruelty or reporting animal cruelty?

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Contributor: FieryRed FieryRed
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Originally posted by spiced
Yes, the American Legislative Exchange Council (ALEC) is pushing this legislation. I've been doing some research on them since I posted this. They're responsible for A LOT of terrible legislation and ALEC is supported by A LOT of companies. ... more
O. M. F. G. That is excellent information to have, thank you! My heart sank when I saw a certain large online retailer of books and other stuff there, but then I read that they've discontinued their membership. Still, wow. Seems like just about every other company I've ever heard of is on there. Thank goodness Eden Fantasys isn't on that list!!
04/09/2013
Contributor: Martiniman Martiniman
Abuse!
04/09/2013
Contributor: TJtheMadHatter TJtheMadHatter
The abuse is the crime.
04/09/2013
Contributor: Allstars316 Allstars316
Yup it is a crime
04/09/2013
Contributor: Bignuf Bignuf
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Originally posted by Wicked Wahine
I'm so disgusted & outraged after reading that, that I cannot comment on it any more than to say, WTF is this world coming to?

I wish I'd known about the pictures of abuse before loading the page. So, if you are as sensitive as I, ... more
I agree....sad, upsetting and made me angry. Even on a farm that slaughters, there is zero reason to be anything less then as humane as possible.
04/09/2013
Contributor: lana'sart lana'sart
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Originally posted by Kitka
Animal abuse is a crime, plain and simple, reporting it isn't.
agreed
07/04/2013
Contributor: KyotoAngel KyotoAngel
Quote:
Originally posted by Wicked Wahine
I'm so disgusted & outraged after reading that, that I cannot comment on it any more than to say, WTF is this world coming to?

I wish I'd known about the pictures of abuse before loading the page. So, if you are as sensitive as I, ... more
Thanks for the warning...probably would have wound up crying if I had seen those kinds of pictures. =<
While I can understand how recording video of animal cruelty going on could, in some fucked up way, be considered an invasion of privacy, I wouldn't consider it a crime given that the poor animal in question certainly can't make the report itself.

Personally, I think we ought to make it where instead of fines and possible jail time, the abuser has to endure whatever they made the animal suffer through...then they'd understand what kind of a horrible person they really are and it might make them change for the better.
07/07/2013
Contributor: RedGlitter RedGlitter
I live in the south an, unfortunately, I've seen and heard about animal abuse since I was young. It's horrible THAT is why I'm a vegan, now.
07/07/2013
Contributor: ChubbyNerd ChubbyNerd
I hate hate hate people that abuse animals. I work at a vet and we have a bunch of pit bulls there from a dog fighting house. So sad
07/07/2013
Contributor: JackRaiden JackRaiden
The lobbyists that draft this kind of absurdity should be laughed out of their jobs. The politicians that agree to support them (in exchange for ?) should face much, much worse. This is corruption, and its prevalence (and legality, and tolerance by voters) is very disturbing.

Animal abuse is a crime, and it should be a much more serious one. Unfortunately, the laws protecting anything besides humans are very weak, and apparently getting weaker, thanks to slimy politicians and some enormous corporations that think their "right" to increasing profits trumps everything else.

"Instead of working to prevent future abuses, the factory farms want to silence them."
07/07/2013
Contributor: wicked48 wicked48
Animal abuse is definitely a crime.
07/07/2013
Contributor: HannahPanda HannahPanda
Abuse should be reported and dealt with accordingly always. Reporting it shouldn't be considered a crime anywhere. Animal abuse is something I feel really strongly about :/
07/08/2013
Contributor: Trixxxy Trixxxy
I can't stand when people do bad things to animals. like that video of the cop shooting a dog. Id shoot him >.>
07/09/2013
Contributor: Etonia Etonia
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Originally posted by spiced
Yes, the American Legislative Exchange Council (ALEC) is pushing this legislation. I've been doing some research on them since I posted this. They're responsible for A LOT of terrible legislation and ALEC is supported by A LOT of companies. ... more
It's ridiculous. What will happen next? Videotaping a person getting mugged will be considered a crime and make you a terrorist? Honestly its just pathetic.
07/11/2013
Contributor: Airen Wolf Airen Wolf
(EF Review Program Mentor)
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Originally posted by spiced
According to this article, laws are being proposed across the country which would make it illegal to videotape animal abuse at farms. People who violated these anti-taping laws would be branded as "terrorists".

What do you think? ... more
If you wait around long enough on a farm you are probably going to see an animal in distress and videotapes are too easy to doctor. We had someone videotape me "beating my horse while she was limping in obvious distress." On the videotape I looked like a total criminal but they proved that the tape of my "hitting" her had been sped up.

What was actually going on? I was tapping on her rump with a "carrot stick" (a long orange fiber glass stick with a string on the end for flicking and playing "friendly games" in the Parelli horse*man*ship program) I was getting her to stand up so I could pick up her left front foot which had foundered. She was in serious pain due to the illness and didn't want to move forward so I could change the bandage which I painted brown with a sealing solution. It wasn't visible easily in the camera.

She was my complete baby and I never struck her in anger or in any way! I was simply gently tapping her hip to encourage her not to back up and to move forward. She gave a half hop and I sat down on a stool to lift her foot and doctor it.

Three days later I had to answer cruelty charges in a court of law. Yes under some circumstances videotaping "animal cruelty" should carry an equal sentence...it's false witness and there should be consequences.
07/11/2013