Have you experienced catty women on Eden?

Contributor: pootpootpoot pootpootpoot
I've never seen anyone post anything rude or 'catty', though I haven't been active for very long. I think it can be hard for people to gauge how their posts come across to others though. Always remember that tone can be hard to convey on the internet!
03/31/2012
Contributor: dhig dhig
i haven't noticed much catty-ness here. maybe thats just because im male and oblivious, lol
03/31/2012
Contributor: Breas Breas
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Originally posted by Crystal1
I haven't really noticed it. As awesome as all things internet are, one major drawback is that it's hard to read a person's tone in something they type, so it can be easy to take things the wrong way.
This is really true.
03/31/2012
Contributor: Missmarc Missmarc
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Originally posted by ViVix
So, I really don't get too much flack. I think if I don't have anything nice to say, I usually just don't comment on this site. However, I have noticed some female reviewers who I would describe as making catty comments on just about ... more
I am not sure exactly what "catty" means. It's a internet forum. I never really take anything that's said on this forum seriously.
03/31/2012
Contributor: Breas Breas
I agree with what everyone said about taking things out of context.. I also agree that there are jerky people everywhere, no matter where you go, but there are also super great people where ever you go. I just try and stick with the nice people : )
03/31/2012
Contributor: calliope calliope
I haven't come across it. So far I have actually been impressed with peoples positivity and nonjudgement.
03/31/2012
Contributor: JessCee JessCee
I have not noticed this... at all actually.
03/31/2012
Contributor: catsin catsin
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Originally posted by underHim
Some people do not even realize they are being wrong but it is an impossible situation because those same people in my experience do not take criticism well. I have not dealt with it on this site yet though.
Exactly! I despise these qualities in a person, but they do seem to come in tandem.

I generally avoid conversing with these kinds of people, even when there's something I really wish to get off my chest. I know it won't get me anywhere unless I come at it REALLY head strong, and that usually involves some serious hate--not healthy.
03/31/2012
Contributor: Ansley Ansley
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Originally posted by HannahPanda
Yes, but I watch my mouth on Eden because it's kind of easy to get your account yanked away. Besides, dealing with cattiness with more cattiness just isn't a good option in the first place.
I'm sorry that you have this impression, but I would like to make sure that everyone here knows that it is actually rather difficult to have your account disabled because of your "verbal" behavior on this site.

We are all adults, we talk about adult things and we use adult language. In the three years that the review program and forums have been active, only one person has been permanently banned because of how they treated staff, members and other aspects of the site---one out of hundreds (if not thousands) of people who have participated in the community.

Homophobic slurs, sexualizing children or animals, and personally attacking or bullying someone will earn disciplinary actions but you are otherwise free to speak your mind.
04/01/2012
Contributor: Nissa Nissa Nissa Nissa
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Originally posted by ViVix
So, I really don't get too much flack. I think if I don't have anything nice to say, I usually just don't comment on this site. However, I have noticed some female reviewers who I would describe as making catty comments on just about ... more
I think some might down-vote my reviews but I also might be a crappy reviewer.. so it's either or.
04/01/2012
Contributor: Brandonn Brandonn
For sure. I just stay away from them.
04/01/2012
Contributor: Beck Beck
I know that I am on of those catty women that some are referring to. I try not to come off this way, but when you ask for something I just give it to you straight. If you can't handle it, you should not ask for input or advice from just anyone. If you are asking for open advice you are asking for all kinds of input.
04/01/2012
Contributor: wildorchid wildorchid
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Originally posted by Beck
I know that I am on of those catty women that some are referring to. I try not to come off this way, but when you ask for something I just give it to you straight. If you can't handle it, you should not ask for input or advice from just anyone. ... more
Beck, you are not catty at all. You just speak your mind, nothing wrong with that.
04/01/2012
Contributor: wildorchid wildorchid
The only issue I have on this site is when forum threads get malicious. Yes people take things the wrong way, yes context is often lost over the internet, but that is no reason to be snappy and rude. If you think someone has taken something you've said in the wrong way, then you should message them and clear it up instead of resorting to being rude or spiteful. Catty may be the wrong word, I don't know. If I find a thread bothers because of what people are saying, I generally don't say anything and just leave the thread. I refuse to let others ruin my fun on Eden.
04/01/2012
Contributor: Geogeo Geogeo
I don't see the point of being catty or mean on a sex toy community...i mean, it's all about being open and accepting here right?
04/01/2012
Contributor: Rossie Rossie
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Originally posted by Beck
I know that I am on of those catty women that some are referring to. I try not to come off this way, but when you ask for something I just give it to you straight. If you can't handle it, you should not ask for input or advice from just anyone. ... more
I agree with wildorchid, you've never been catty with anyone. Just like the poll I made a while back, most of us prefer to speak our minds, which I think is a good thing!
04/01/2012
Contributor: bayosgirl bayosgirl
I can honestly say that everyone I've encountered here on EF has been incredibly kind.
04/02/2012
Contributor: ViVix ViVix
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Originally posted by js250
I think you are going to find catty people everywhere. In my experience, EF has a hell of a lot less than any other sight I have been on. I love the closeness and feeling of community on here. There are also some people who can be overly sensitive ... more
I am personally guilty of being overly sensitive as well, though some things are hard not to take personally.
04/02/2012
Contributor: ViVix ViVix
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Originally posted by Lilith Bealove
I agree with you. If you don't have anything nice to say, then don't say anything at all. I try to word my replies carefully if I have an angry emotion entwined with the response, and if I think it sounds "catty" I get a second and ... more
If I don't find a review even somewhat useful, I usually don't rate it. If I see a forum I'm not interested in, I don't join it. It's easier to go about my own business than to police others on the site.
04/02/2012
Contributor: Secret Pleasure Secret Pleasure
idk if catty is the word I would use but I do believe some people are extremly opinionated and believe there opinion should be heard and is better then others. Ive also noticed some women think because they have more experince and have been on here longer that that makes them intilted to always voice their opinion even when its not asked for. overall though i think most people have been great.
04/02/2012
Contributor: Deidrenicole Deidrenicole
I have not come across one of these people yet, but now I'm scared ha ha
04/02/2012
Contributor: Deidrenicole Deidrenicole
I have not come across one of these people yet, but now I'm scared ha ha
04/02/2012
Contributor: ViVix ViVix
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Originally posted by Ansley
I'm sorry that you have this impression, but I would like to make sure that everyone here knows that it is actually rather difficult to have your account disabled because of your "verbal" behavior on this site.

We are all ... more
I'm glad you cleared this up!
04/02/2012
Contributor: Adriana Ravenlust Adriana Ravenlust
I, er, thought that some previous employees were amazingly catty. Can I say that here?

Nowadays, I bet some people might consider me catty or just super critical. The latter is pretty true. I'm just set in my ways. I have expectations. -shrugs-

The thing is, EF already is a pretty positive community -- that's a good thing -- but people have to remember that no matter where a group of people mingle, there's going to be friction, let's call it. If you expect absolutely zero friction, you're going to wind up frustrated or hurt when it does arise -- and it will. I'm not saying people should go out of their way to be hurtful, but I do think that people need to keep their sensitives in check, not just here but in every aspect of life. Otherwise you're always going to be hurt. =/
04/02/2012
Contributor: ViVix ViVix
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Originally posted by Secret Pleasure
idk if catty is the word I would use but I do believe some people are extremly opinionated and believe there opinion should be heard and is better then others. Ive also noticed some women think because they have more experince and have been on here ... more
I have noticed that some of the older members have really targeted new members because of the change in the way to become an advanced reviewer.
04/02/2012
Contributor: Adriana Ravenlust Adriana Ravenlust
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Originally posted by ViVix
I have noticed that some of the older members have really targeted new members because of the change in the way to become an advanced reviewer.
What change?
04/02/2012
Contributor: Beck Beck
Awe thanks to the ladies who commented back to me. I appreciate that you don't think I am catty. I really try not to be, but like previous posters have mentioned your voice of how things are expressed is easily lost on the internet.
04/02/2012
Contributor: Beck Beck
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Originally posted by Adriana Ravenlust
What change?
Seconding, there has been no change what so ever. These "older" members that being referred to are not all older members. These people are voicing opinions on how to help protect something they value.
04/02/2012
Contributor: P'Gell P'Gell
AFAIK, there has been no change in the past 2 years in how to become an Advanced Reviewer.

As for expressing one's opinions, of course why wouldn't one express their opinions, as well as quote facts? It's the way to make a point. A lot of us have opinions, just because one can express oneself well, and make good arguments doesn't meant they think their opinions are "better" (whatever that means.)

As for "expressing opinions where they weren't asked for" Uh, this is an open forum. If someone starts a thread, or expresses an opinion, or asks for "help" with a personal problem, everyone on the forum has every right to respond. There is no such thing as a thread only meant for "some" people. (Or only people who are going to tell the OP what he or she wants to hear.)

I think that when in the world of internet forums are taken as a whole, Eden is pretty kind and thoughtful. I also think that as I was, years ago, told to do on an other forum, people may want to try to grow a thicker skin. (I HAD to, as I was a Moderator. So, I did. Life is much better when one doesn't see "offense" in every statement others make.)

Words don't always come out in print the way they sound in speech. Some people are simply more assertive than others, it's that way in real life, as it is in internet forums.

I actually find the whole idea that one takes offense to some "people who state their opinions where they aren't wanted" a strangely unusual thing to talk about on an OPEN internet forum. If I want something to stay PRIVATE, I don't post it on an internet forum. If I ONLY want to talk to one person about something, I either PM them or send them my email and we can talk privately.]

If it's really private, I don't take it to the internet at all.

If one posts a problem they are having with the statement "What can I do about this?" then ALL on the forum are allowed to chime in.

I'm one of those people who are not afraid to speak to others, nor their opinions. As well, I state my opinions the way I see them, most usually based on reason, thought and fact. What terrible place Eden would be if we all had to walk on eggshells around each other all the time.

Also, many issues go beyond "opinions" and require facts to be clarified. Using facts to prove a point or clarify an issue is what educated, intelligent people do to speak, debate and communicate.

I find those who rely only on "feelings" and don't let fact intrude on their opinions or decisions extremely difficult to deal with. But, they do exist. (Knowing you can have your own opinions but you can't have your own facts.) I was raised in an Academic family (my father was a University professor and my mother was a technical writer) and in my house, you had better be able to back up your comments and ideas with facts and figures! When I got to college, the same way of communicating was taken even more seriously. Emotions are good, but only when they are tempered by also including objective intellect, as well.

It's the way many people think and communicate with others. It's effective and workable. Many of us operate on more data than just "how I feel" about things a good portion of the time.

I honestly think this entire thread is a bit of a challenge to a lot of the long time posters, who have no problem stating their opinions. (As we've, for some reason, been singled out more than anyone else. It doesn't bother me, personally, but is it the right tact to take?)

I think one needs to perhaps go to the person who you perhaps didn't understand and ask them to clarify their comments, if you are confused. Rather than starting and adding to a "nobody in particular" is whom this thread is about POV.

I find it a bit passive/aggressive to start or add to this thread from the "some people are too opinionated, but I don't mean anybody in particular" when directly talking to the person in question would be much more honest and yield better results.

As Beck said; many of us voice our opinions to protect something we value. Eden is a fair and kind community, and the entire passive/aggressive taste to this thread is a bit concerning.

Catty? No, honest. Honesty is the best policy. Tip toeing around an issue never changed anything.
04/02/2012
Contributor: Lizzy Lizzy
yes
04/03/2012