Ladies Who Wear Makeup - Advice Please

Ladies Who Wear Makeup - Advice Please

Ansley Ansley
So um...I seem to have an issue with my eyelids.

I like to wear metallic eyeshadows, in either a cream or powder formula, and I use a synthetic brush (bristles, not sponge) to apply it.

For the last month or so, my eyes seem to be really irritated. The skin on the lids is dry and cracked and my eyes start to tear as soon as I apply my makeup.

I can't decide if I'm allergic to it, over doing the application, not priming them correctly....

Does anyone have any advice? Oh and I wear mostly Cover Girl products.
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Ryuson Ryuson
Quote:
Originally posted by Ansley
So um...I seem to have an issue with my eyelids.

I like to wear metallic eyeshadows, in either a cream or powder formula, and I use a synthetic brush (bristles, not sponge) to apply it.

For the last month or so, my eyes seem to be ...
Have you started using a new primer/type of makeup? Even a new color might do it. If not, could you look up if maybe the company changed formulas? It looks like there's something in there that is severely irritating your skin.

If you can't pin it down I'd try maybe switching brands, maybe to something without mica? I've heard that that is a common allergen. I also would try switching primers.

I'm sorry to hear you're having this issue! I hope you get it sorted out!
09/11/2012
Sundae Sparkles Sundae Sparkles
what are you using to clean the makeup off?
are you moisturizing your eye lids?

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09/11/2012
- Kira - - Kira -
Some Cover Girl products are talc based, which can cause drying. Are you using an eye cream before you apply your makeup? Generally applying a moisturizer before eye makeup will help with this.

Also, I'd recommend going to another higher quality brand of makeup that uses better ingredients. It's hard to get around the talc. If you do have an allergy to that, try Bare Minerals. If it's not an allergy, try MAC, Urban Decay, NARS, etc.
09/11/2012
Ansley Ansley
Thanks for being willing to offer advice...

Looking through my makeup bag, the only new product is a CG concealer. I've only used it a handful of times but it feels very...waxy and stiff, not like a typical liquid formula would feel like even though it is a liquid, if that makes sense. It does feel kind of grainy, in fact.

Ok, so I'll probably toss that out. I use Oil of Olay moisturizer on my eyelids, just the tiniest little dot of it on each and have done so for years.

Then I usually use a metallic creme shadow as a base and apply eyeshadow that has a lot of shimmer.

I'm wondering if I'm just applying the equivalent of sandpaper to my eyes. Ha!
09/11/2012
- Kira - - Kira -
Quote:
Originally posted by Ansley
Thanks for being willing to offer advice...Looking through my makeup bag, the only new product is a CG concealer. I've only used it a handful of times but it feels very...waxy and stiff, not like a typical liquid formula would feel like even ...
The concealer sounds like it may be causing the issue if it's grainy. I use Benefit Erase Paste over my eye cream. It's super smooth and lasts all day.
09/11/2012
Dandelions Dandelions
I would go without any eye makeup for a couple days to see if it clears up, then reintroduce your products one at a time (per day) to see if you can pinpoint it. Urban Decay and Too Faced make great shadow primers.
09/11/2012
deltalima deltalima
Quote:
Originally posted by Ansley
So um...I seem to have an issue with my eyelids.

I like to wear metallic eyeshadows, in either a cream or powder formula, and I use a synthetic brush (bristles, not sponge) to apply it.

For the last month or so, my eyes seem to be ...
How long have you had the shadows? Metallic shadows, especially cream have a short lifespan and can get contaminated quickly. I would suggest taking 2 days off from applying any eye makeup and moisturizing your eye area with cream/petroleum jelly. Sanitize the shadows with rubbing alcohol and clean your brushes in the meantime. Then go back and see if irritation still occurs. As for primers, I'd suggest something that mattifies which will help.

Personally, I don't like using Covergirl because I've had allergies to their products.
09/11/2012
Gracie Gracie
I have a question for you how often do you clean your brushes and how do you sanitize them? you might just need to replace your brush and makeup more frequently. I read somewhere that eyemakeup and mascaras need to be thrown out and replaced every three months because that can get contaminated during use and that is about how long it would take bacteria to build up to a problematic level. I dont know how true all that is, i'm just sharing what I read. Good luck figuring it all out! I hate it when something I have used and loved suddenly causes issues! I use MAC, clinique and nars eyeshadows if you find you need to switch and need recomendations. Mac has some pretty and metalic eyeliners that may be just what you are looking for!
09/11/2012
Thumper Logic Thumper Logic
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Originally posted by Sundae Sparkles
what are you using to clean the makeup off?
are you moisturizing your eye lids?

link
I would definitely consider moisturizing more, and getting a quality primer
09/11/2012
K101 K101
Quote:
Originally posted by Ansley
So um...I seem to have an issue with my eyelids.

I like to wear metallic eyeshadows, in either a cream or powder formula, and I use a synthetic brush (bristles, not sponge) to apply it.

For the last month or so, my eyes seem to be ...
Could be that your brush needs cleaning due to gathering bacteria. I'd recommend applying with a clean finger tip next time to see if you still get irritation. I'm really good with make-up and ingredients, so if you knew the ingredients, I could probably tell you exactly which ones are irritants.

Have you ever showed allergic reactions to other makeups? What's the brand? I too am HUGE on funky eyeshadows.

It doesn't doing like you're overdoing application, but does sort of sound like bacteria from the brush. You can clean the bristles.

So you are using primer? It could very well be the primer too! Using primer and then eyeshadow could definitely do it. What primer brand and do you know the ingredients?

I usually try to use highly pigmented colors so that I don't need primer unless it's to prevent creasing. I try to stick with only a natural moisturizer as primer or my own homemade one.

Sorry to hear your eyes are irritated though. Hopefully you'll get it cleared up soon. I definitely wouldn't switch to a sponge. Those are wasteful because they absorb more of the makeup than they put on, and they are a bacteria's BFF a lot of times. But it's okay to use them and dispose of them. Either switch to a new brush or try your clean finger tip for a day or two to narrow down the causes. If it's still irritated and showing no signs of clearing, it's probably the shadow

Oh, and to help heal the irritated skin faster, you can use aloe vera. It's safe and will heal irritations, dryness and any other skin problem like a miracle. I use aloe gel straight from my plant because I know it's safe and more potent, but a good aloe product from a reputable company will suffice. I had to stick some of my aloe up my nose hole last week because of a sore I had in there. It healed it in only 3 days.

You can just dab a little of the aloe onto the affected lid being careful not to get it in the eye. It's safe and a natural anti-bacterial and anti-fungal. If you have an aloe plant, you can cut a chunk off, slice the green outer leaf and rinse the alloin (neon yellowish green stuff from the inner leaf) and either smash up the clear gel inside or put it in a blender to make it an actual gel.
09/12/2012
Ansley Ansley
Wow, you all are so helpful!

Okay, brands:

The "metallic base" that I use is Revlon Illuminance creme shadow in Precious metals.

The eyeshadow itself is Cover Girl Drama Eyes. (white, black, light blue, deep pink/shimmer)

Olay is the moisturizer I use, just the basic formula. No retin-a or anything like that.

Both of the eyeshadows have talc and mica in them, and the creme might have titanium dioxide in it (sounds all metal-y).

I think I've been using the same brush since 2006? Never really thought to clean it. So do I let it soak in some rubbing alcohol? Won't that damage the synthetic fibers?

Or, should I just go ahead and toss the whole kit n caboodle and start from scratch? I mean, I have ridiculously sensitive skin but I've never really had a problem with makeup. I had surgery in July and am effectually still healing from that, so my immune system is on hyper-drive.

Thank you everyone who has answered so far and so thoroughly. It's like my one "girl" thing that I really get into and it would suck major dong if I couldn't wear eye makeup anymore.

Oh...and the MAC cosmetics, are they super expensive? I go through a palette of shadow in about three months.
09/12/2012
Neotigress Neotigress
Quote:
Originally posted by Ansley
So um...I seem to have an issue with my eyelids.

I like to wear metallic eyeshadows, in either a cream or powder formula, and I use a synthetic brush (bristles, not sponge) to apply it.

For the last month or so, my eyes seem to be ...
Get something hypoallergenic (maybe Physician's Formula) and give your eyes a break. And when you're home don't wear any makeup at all.

If it gets better, there's your answer.
09/12/2012
P'Gell P'Gell
Quote:
Originally posted by Ansley
Thanks for being willing to offer advice...Looking through my makeup bag, the only new product is a CG concealer. I've only used it a handful of times but it feels very...waxy and stiff, not like a typical liquid formula would feel like even ...
I'd go without the metallic eye shadow for a week or so, keep moisturizing (although a cream or serum made specifically for eyes is going to be a lot more gentle than regular face moisturize) and see how it clears up.

I'm concerned about the talc or the mica, too. You may be sensitive to either or both. Once your eyelids have cleaned up, try using a gentle, higher quality eye make up, like Almay or Clinique or Bobbi Brown. They use better ingredients and may be more gentle on your eyes.

But, when ever you have an irritation the first step is to eliminate the possible irritant until you heal, then reintroduce something less irritating.

Also, I would toss that brush and start from scratch with a natural fiber brush. I wash the brushes that I use for my eye liner and my eye shadow every 2 days, in mild soap and let them air dry. I replace them if I have an eye infection (much less comnon since I don't have small children anymore) or if they start to look ratty or I am irritated and can't figure out what the problem is.

I wouldn't soak the brushes in alcohol. It won't do much good and will probably break down the material, letting more bacteria into the pores later. Just dump them and start from scratch, washing them every day or so.
09/12/2012
Femme Mystique Femme Mystique
I would get new brushes and eye makeup, so if by chance you have contaminated your makeup with your brushes, you don't keep recontaminating. Then I would make sure to clean your brushes daily and shampoo them weekly. ELF makes a pretty good brush cleaner and brush shampoo that are both reasonable.
09/12/2012
- Kira - - Kira -
Quote:
Originally posted by Ansley
Wow, you all are so helpful!

Okay, brands:

The "metallic base" that I use is Revlon Illuminance creme shadow in Precious metals.

The eyeshadow itself is Cover Girl Drama Eyes. (white, black, light blue, deep ...
Woah, since 2006? Get new brushes! Then get some brush cleaner to clean them with. I use Cinema Secrets Brush Cleaner. You can get it on eBay pretty cheap. I use a little spray bottle to wipe off the brushes daily and deep clean them in it every week or so.

MAC isn't super expensive, but it isn't cheap. However, it's waaay more pigmented than CoverGirl, so they last longer. You don't need to apply as much of it. I don't think I've ever hit the pan on any MAC shadow, but I have, like, 400 soo....yeah.

Also, since you need new brushes, some recommendations! Royal & Langnickle, Crown Brush, aDesign, and Sigma all make great brushes that don't totally break the bank. Most of my stash if from R&L.
09/12/2012
SkylarrStarr SkylarrStarr
Quote:
Originally posted by Ansley
Wow, you all are so helpful!

Okay, brands:

The "metallic base" that I use is Revlon Illuminance creme shadow in Precious metals.

The eyeshadow itself is Cover Girl Drama Eyes. (white, black, light blue, deep ...
I would toss the brushes. You can purchase inexpensive ones, I believe Kira had some good suggestions. Although more expensive ones, if well taken care of will last forever. I have some that are still in perfect condition and I have had them for almost 10 years. I have quite a collection, as I worked as a retail MUA for a very long time. You can get a small spray bottle and fill it with 99% alcohol (only 99% disinfects) and use it to spray the bristles of your brushes, as well as any cream or powder product before and after each use. Just allow the fumes to disapate before applying makeup. Brushes should be washed weekly, or more frequently if they get mucky from cream colors. Use a mild antibacterial soap and warm water. Wash the bristles by swirling them with soap in your palm and rinse till the water is clear. Don't forget to wash the handle as well. Squeeze out excess water and lay flat on a towel to dry. Don't stand them up when wet, as water will seep into the glue and cause the brush to come apart. A conditioner can also be used on natural hair brushes.

Mica and other shimmers are a known irritant in many people. The sensitivity to it can occur all of a sudden. I would suspect it is a combination of bacteria and the shimmers that are causing irritation. Pigments that contain red, like pinks and purples can also be irritating.

Any cream products that have separating or a smell like old crayons...trust me...you will know...should be thrown out. If the powders have a film on them that cannot be scraped away with a butter knife, or if they have a funny odor, they should be thrown away as well.

I hope this helps a bit! Good luck!
09/12/2012
Ansley Ansley
Wow, you ladies are awesome!!!

Okay, so I went ahead and dumped all of my compacts that were questionable - which was well, all of them.

I also tossed all of my brushes and my concealer.

I coaxed hubby into taking me to Target on our way to Best Buy so I could pick up some new stuff. I really, really like my CG eyeshadow and getting to a MAC counter isn't an easy feat, so I picked up another compact of that. I also grabbed another palette of creme shadow from Revlon but without the metallic colors. It's just a hodgepodge of nude shades that are matte.

I also bought four different applicator brushes from e.l.f. Two for eyeshadow, one for all-over face powders, and one for bronzer that I'll probably use as a blending brush for shadow. And I'll remember to cleanse them every other day or so. Thank you so much for all of your tips!

I would have picked up the high-pigment shadows without metallic additives, but it was like $6 for one teeny and I mean teeny little thing of it. The glass was, it seemed, ten times thicker than the pat of color inside. I felt that was a bit ridiculous.

Did I do okay?
09/12/2012
sweetiejo sweetiejo
It sounds like you did the right steps to aliviate the problems you were having. I usually have the exact opposite my skin gets so greasy and gross its unreal.
09/12/2012
SkylarrStarr SkylarrStarr
Quote:
Originally posted by Ansley
Wow, you ladies are awesome!!!Okay, so I went ahead and dumped all of my compacts that were questionable - which was well, all of them. I also tossed all of my brushes and my concealer. I coaxed hubby into taking me to Target on our way to Best Buy ...
Yay!!! Sounds great! Although the high pigment shadows are pricy, they last much, much longer than regular ones. The HIP ones from Loreal are great!
09/12/2012
mistressg mistressg
Yo should look into the ingredients, there are a few sites for finding ingredients in makeup products/the effects they may have.
09/12/2012
- Kira - - Kira -
Quote:
Originally posted by Ansley
Wow, you ladies are awesome!!!Okay, so I went ahead and dumped all of my compacts that were questionable - which was well, all of them. I also tossed all of my brushes and my concealer. I coaxed hubby into taking me to Target on our way to Best Buy ...
Yay! Sounds like you did good. I hope that helps your issues.

I still say make a trip to MAC though.
09/12/2012
deltalima deltalima
Quote:
Originally posted by Ansley
Wow, you all are so helpful!

Okay, brands:

The "metallic base" that I use is Revlon Illuminance creme shadow in Precious metals.

The eyeshadow itself is Cover Girl Drama Eyes. (white, black, light blue, deep ...
Using shampoo or whatever facial soap you use is the best way to clean your brushes. Lather it and rinse until the fibers are clean and the water runs clear. Then let it air dry and you'll be good to go. Alcohol is only handy if you spot clean.

If you've had the brush for a while, you could toss it if you want but a good wash and you can still use it.

Ecotools brush set

As for the makeup, I would toss that. Talc is known to be an irritant for a lot of people.

"It would suck major dong if I couldn't wear eye makeup anymore" ha ha. Good thing you don't have to.

I find that Mac among others is rather expensive. A lot of their shades can be reduplicated and even purchased for less. If you want eyeshadows, I'd suggest checking Coastal Scents. Their pressed eyeshadows are 1/10 the cost of Mac and are comparable. If you feel like making your own, you can even buy loose micas/pigments and experiment.

I've worked for various makeup companies and most of them usually source their brushes from China and just customize it with their logos, etc. You don't need super expensive brushes because chances are they're coming from the same place. Sonia Kashuk, ELF and NYX are good inexpensive brushes/makeup brands. Even the brushes available from Sephora are quite good. I'm a makeup artist and I've had brushes from Sephora that have lasted for a long time. Unless you want a luxurious set of goat hair brushes, a few basic brushes will last with upkeep. As for drugstore, I rather like Maybelline and L'oreal and they've just released some new shades for fall.

Hope I made sense
09/12/2012
glasskitten glasskitten
I just wanted to mention that Bismuth Oxychloride could be what is aggrevating your lids. I'm not sure about your particular eyeshadows, but I do know that ingredient is added to all sorts of makeup to impart a "sheen". I know that people who are sensitive to it get flaking and peeling at the application site (as well as other problems). This may or may not be the trouble for you, but I just wanted to throw that out there. If the makeup you replaced it with gives you the same reaction, it's time to start checking labels.

Good luck!
09/13/2012
Gracie Gracie
Quote:
Originally posted by Ansley
Wow, you ladies are awesome!!!Okay, so I went ahead and dumped all of my compacts that were questionable - which was well, all of them. I also tossed all of my brushes and my concealer. I coaxed hubby into taking me to Target on our way to Best Buy ...
I think you did. At least starting out fresh may help you pinpoint the issues. I wouldnt invest alot till you get everything cleared up, but then a visit to MAC might be a fun treat! I find their stuff to be higher than drugstore, but cheaper than many of the department store brands and so high in quality that I feel they are a good value. But I still advise waiting till you are healthy!
09/13/2012
Airen Wolf Airen Wolf
Quote:
Originally posted by Ansley
So um...I seem to have an issue with my eyelids.

I like to wear metallic eyeshadows, in either a cream or powder formula, and I use a synthetic brush (bristles, not sponge) to apply it.

For the last month or so, my eyes seem to be ...
I had the same problem with anything a department store sells for eyes so I switched to Bare Minerals. I always use disposable applicators and never touch the shadow after touching my skin. Then again my skin is just plain old grouchy and sensitive to EVERYTHING. It seems to work though.
09/13/2012
Airen Wolf Airen Wolf
Quote:
Originally posted by deltalima
Using shampoo or whatever facial soap you use is the best way to clean your brushes. Lather it and rinse until the fibers are clean and the water runs clear. Then let it air dry and you'll be good to go. Alcohol is only handy if you spot ...
I LOVE Sephora brushes! Totally second that recommendation.
09/13/2012
SneakersAndPearls SneakersAndPearls
I usually use mineral make-up from Everyday Minerals link They are fantastic and I've never had a problem with them. They come in all sorts of colors. If you aren't sure how your skin will react or what colors you want, you can actually get sample kits for the price of shipping.
09/26/2012
(k)InkyIvy (k)InkyIvy
I had the same problem, and I finally just stopped wearing eyeshadow except for special occasions and such.
09/26/2012
P'Gell P'Gell
Quote:
Originally posted by Ansley
Wow, you ladies are awesome!!!Okay, so I went ahead and dumped all of my compacts that were questionable - which was well, all of them. I also tossed all of my brushes and my concealer. I coaxed hubby into taking me to Target on our way to Best Buy ...
Sounds good.

There are also some really good brushes by a company whose name I can't remember, but the word "Natural" is in it, and the handles are made of bamboo (which is a great renewable resource) and the brush tips are good material.

I have at least 3 brushes just for eye liner, so I can air them out and clean them between uses. Two are the bamboo and I'm pretty sure one may be ELF.

If the problem continues, try Almay, Clinique or Bobbi Brown. Clinique and Bobbi Brown seem expensive, but they are VERY high quality. Almay was developed for sensitive and allergic skin. Bobbi Brown has sales and give aways ALL the time and you can get their stuff online.
09/26/2012
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