RIDDING SPIDERS!

RIDDING SPIDERS!

K101 K101
We've had numerous discussions about spiders here, but I've yet to see one that has to do with ridding the darn things. I hate them. I mean I absolutely despise them! I'd rather have roach bugs than a spider. I'd rather have mice than a spider! Don't get angry, I just cannot get over my incredible fear of them. The other night I thought I "spider proofed" this place. We live in Georgia on a mountain, lots of woods, lots of spiders. It's misery! What I want is a way to get rid of them without chemicals.

The other night, I cleaned every nook and cranny, pulled out every box, couch, bed, chair. I used vinegar all over the floors and walls. Last night I clogged every tee-tiny crack around my AC and used those sticky foamy pieces to seal really good and for extra protection, I layered with paper towels and duct-tape. Yes, I'm dead serious about ridding these ugly things!

Vinegar didn't do so well so I upgraded to clorox cleaner liquid and made a concoction of that plus vinegar, plus lemon oil. Apparently these stinking things taste with their feet so I had hopes that my desperate concoction would taste so bad to their feet that they'd run for life. NOPE! Just an hour ago I go bouncing in the kitchen and there's a HUGE one. I had a panic attack trying to kill the darn thing. Finally got the nerve and did it. It's dead, but I'm still awake at 4AM shaking like a leaf on a tree! They truly freak me out and I simply cannot take them, not the big ones.

So, I've researched all I can and there are little options that work besides chemicals and at this point, I will break out the chemicals and go freaking crazy if it means ridding them. Like I said, we live on a mountain in GA and it's not uncommon to come across those dangerous recluses, black widows and dear God, WOLF spiders! My huge fear turned into this awful anxiety crap a couple years ago when I had my first encounter with a wolf spider. I had the worst night. It was living in my drawer and had babies. I think that encounter damaged me for life.

My point is, I am desperate people! I know there are other aracnaphobics here and I need to know what you've tried to rid em' and what works? Any advice before I spend a boat load of money to rid em? I'm trying peppermint oil--I think. If it doesn't work, I'm going all-chemical because I know for a fact that works like a magic. We had to use chemicals for wolf spiders last year because they were soooo bad. We were always seeing them. I'm willing to try something natural for now.

Any suggestions? Does the peppermint oil work really well? What have you tried? I'm thinking maybe using more lemon oil and it may work better, but I've read that peppermint works better than lemon oil. No, the pledge and other artificial citrus stuff DOES NOT work. Also, no I cannot live with them. I don't care about the benefits. I want them gone. Lol. The "benefits" do not outweigh me having panic attacks every night at 4am. No siree. I need a real option. I've even considered infesting the house with lady bugs to keep away spiders. I've cleaned, gotten rid of any attractants, I keep the bug level low. We have crane flies like mad, but those don't bother me and we try to keep the numbers of those in the house low. There's nothing more I can do to just not attract them. They don't care if our home looks comfy, they come in anyways. There's NO clutter at all, nowhere to hide really and that is not keeping them away.

Thanks for any advice! Let me know what works for you. If I go ahead with the peppermint oil, I'll update on how it works.
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KyotoAngel KyotoAngel
Quote:
Originally posted by K101
We've had numerous discussions about spiders here, but I've yet to see one that has to do with ridding the darn things. I hate them. I mean I absolutely despise them! I'd rather have roach bugs than a spider. I'd rather have mice than ...
Short of getting a large pet lizard or bird (either one would probably die if something like a black widow bit it though) that could eat them or covering your house with a bunch of venus fly traps or similar carnivorous plants I'd say there's not many things (if any) that will ever make your home someplace spiders fear to tread.

Almost makes it a shame we can't all have a pet basilisk hanging out in our homes actually, the spiders in Harry Potter hated that thing. xD
05/01/2012
Raigne Raigne
They just aren't easy to get rid of. They can fit in very small spaces, and many are attracted to the insides of houses because they have evolved to live among people.

Please don't be offended by my next question. It's a perfectly serious one. If your fear of spiders is so profound that it's interfering with your ability to function normally, preventing sleep, and causing panic attacks, have you thought about trying therapy? As a person with a full-blown phobia who had to get help myself, you sound like you have a full-blown phobia. Cognitive behavioral therapy has been pretty successful at helping people cope with phobias. I only suggest it because it seems a shame to go through life stressed and terrified of something that is literally everywhere when there are other options. Of course, I suppose trying to spider proof the house seems like the easier solution in the short-run, but do you really want to have to lose so much sleep and expend so much energy on it for the rest of your life?
05/01/2012
Ansley Ansley
Kendra! Never ever mix bleach with ANYTHING. Girl, LOLOL

Anytime you do something like this you're just forcing them to come out into the open to get away, so you basically made it to where they couldn't escape.

I understand you are terrified of them, but they are crafty creatures and if they need to, they will find a way in. The only other suggestion I have is to bug bomb your crawlspace or basement if you have one. Spiders typically like cool and slightly damp places.
05/01/2012
P'Gell P'Gell
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Originally posted by Ansley
Kendra! Never ever mix bleach with ANYTHING. Girl, LOLOL

Anytime you do something like this you're just forcing them to come out into the open to get away, so you basically made it to where they couldn't escape.

I understand ...
Yes. Seeing you mixed vinegar (an acid) with bleach (a corrosive base) made me cringe.

I HATE the things, too. I freak out when I see them on the ceiling of my bedroom, and I have a sponge on a stick (made for cleaning my bathtub) that I call my "Biter Killer" (My little one was a baby she used to call spider "biters, because they BITE CHOO!") I put wet Kleenex or toilet tissue on it and smash the thing, then place the thing into the toilet, so I don't have to touch it.

I've tried to rid my house of spiders. We live in the woods, and there is NO WAY to get rid of them. I know people who have had their houses professionally "exterminated&quo t; and all it did was make them sick.... and the spiders returned in a few days.

I don't really think there is a way to get rid of them completely. Just don't mix anything with bleach. You could make you and your family quite sick.

I wish I had better advice for you. Some of the time, I use my vacuum to suck them up when I don't want to go near them. Then I run the motor so they drown in all the dust in the vacuum bag. BLEH. I hate em.

SHUDDER
05/01/2012
KyotoAngel KyotoAngel
Quote:
Originally posted by Ansley
Kendra! Never ever mix bleach with ANYTHING. Girl, LOLOL

Anytime you do something like this you're just forcing them to come out into the open to get away, so you basically made it to where they couldn't escape.

I understand ...
...anything at all?

This would probably explain the time we had to vacate the apartment for a few hours when my mother mixed a bunch of bleach with my coconut scented shampoo to clean her white work shirt.
My eyes and lungs were burning for the rest of the night. =_=;
05/01/2012
El-Jaro El-Jaro
I dunno...I like my Spider.
05/01/2012
Rossie Rossie
Quote:
Originally posted by P'Gell
Yes. Seeing you mixed vinegar (an acid) with bleach (a corrosive base) made me cringe.

I HATE the things, too. I freak out when I see them on the ceiling of my bedroom, and I have a sponge on a stick (made for cleaning my bathtub) that I call ...
I use that wet toilet tissue paper on a stick, then flush it into the toilet method too! In fact, I always keep folded toilet tissue in my pocket, so I can crush those pesky things and their egg sacs whenever I see them on the walls and crevices. I'll walk around the house every two to three days to check for egg sacs, it's better to destroy the sacs so those pests don't get a chance to hatch!
05/01/2012
mlmac mlmac
Spiders are not really a big problem for me as other bugs might be, but usually if any bug type critters get in my house, I just whip out my hand held vac and suck them guys right up. Sometimes, it can be a full time job.
05/01/2012
Rin (aka Nire) Rin (aka Nire)
I agree with Raigne - if this is such an issue, I think you should seek therapy if your fear of them is this bad. I honestly don't think it's possible to completely rid your home of spiders, so learning to tolerate them to a degree would likely be the best option. At least so you don't have panic attacks anymore and can kill them easily (it makes me extremely sad to say this, since I love spiders, but I know people have limits).

I can sympathize with your phobia somewhat - I'm very afraid of bees, but I can't avoid them entirely, so over the last few years I've learned to live with them under most circumstances and deal with them a bit more calmly, and I feel much better for it.

(Also - where on Earth did you get the lady bug idea? Lady bugs eat aphids, and spiders eat lady bugs, so that wouldn't work.)
05/01/2012
Kissy Kissy
I've only heard of peppermint for mice, not spiders... Sorry girl, I hate them too! Ick!
05/02/2012
socceras socceras
Quote:
Originally posted by K101
We've had numerous discussions about spiders here, but I've yet to see one that has to do with ridding the darn things. I hate them. I mean I absolutely despise them! I'd rather have roach bugs than a spider. I'd rather have mice than ...
lol when i see a spider i pick it up and put it outside lol i don't have a fear of them. I know it's probably pointless to tell you this but there is no reason to fear them. I live in Florida and sometimes I wake up with wolf spiders in bed with me or on my pillow. (yes it has happened multiple times)but it doesn't bother me. I was brought up to enjoy all parts of nature and I just see a spider as a small bug. I don't think you can get rid of them if they are all around you. Maybe they come in through your attic? Because there can be lots of wholes and crannies in your attic.
05/02/2012
GONE! GONE!
Oh I feel your pain! If I could think of a way to rid my place of spiders I would tell you and I would be doing it lol. I always get ones that enjoy running across the ceiling upside down in a most hideous and terrifying way. I can't even kill them, I'm too freaked out by the thought of one dropping into my hair.
05/02/2012
VelvetDragon VelvetDragon
For the record, Venus flytraps are outdoor plants that need full sun and a winter dormancy, so they're not an option either. XD
05/02/2012
K101 K101
Quote:
Originally posted by Raigne
They just aren't easy to get rid of. They can fit in very small spaces, and many are attracted to the insides of houses because they have evolved to live among people.

Please don't be offended by my next question. It's a perfectly ...
No problem. I actually did mention therapy to my partner today, but then said "Never mind that, I don't want to pay for some therapy when ridding them would be cheaper." LOL. I know that this fear is really annoying though, but I hate the spiders more than I hate my fear for them. Strange I guess. I can't help but doubt that therapy would really fix this problem. I've never gone to therapy before. Really interesting what you mentioned about cognitive therapy helping your phobia. Now I will look into that now that you say it helped you. I agree, extreme stress is really hard to live with. I used to have other issues with awful anxiety due to a particular thing that happened. I was prescribed meds for it, but don't even need them so I quit taking them. Now I don't ever have panic attacks unless I see a big spider. Lol.

I didn't get around to trying the lemon oil today. By the time I got home it was dark out, but I do already have coconut oil and vinegar on hand and someone said today that it works to repel them from your home. I can handle the smaller spiders--I'm talking REALLY SMALL ones. I can kill them without freaking, but with the bigger, dangerous ones, I panic and it takes hours to get the courage up to smash them.

I hope and pray that the coconut oil and vinegar would be a good thing to repel them. I'm going to mix some up and spray the doors and stuff tomorrow. Anybody ever tried that solution?

Stormy: Lol. It isn't actually bleach Lol. It's the Clorox liquid wipes. I forgot what they're called. Clorox is only the brand, but the wipes are just disinfectant things and I used the liquid from them I'd be too scared to mix anything with bleach. I'd be left standing in the half burned down house with my hair lookin' like a mad scientist. Lol. My Lovie would come in and there I'd be "THE SPIDERS ARE GONE, HONEY! I DID AWAY WITH EM' THIS TIME... FOR GOOD!" Lol. Ha Ha.

Thankfully we don't have a basement or anything. I couldn't imagine the crawlers we'd get then! I just like to repel bugs from the home. It has worked before. Once we used chemicals around the house and I'll tell ya, it was so bug-free around here for so long I nearly forgot what a bug was! LOL. I really don't wanna go the chemical route though so my fingers are crossed with the natural solution. I have heard that the lemon extract will do wonders. Kinda hard to imagine though.
05/02/2012
K101 K101
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Originally posted by P'Gell
Yes. Seeing you mixed vinegar (an acid) with bleach (a corrosive base) made me cringe.

I HATE the things, too. I freak out when I see them on the ceiling of my bedroom, and I have a sponge on a stick (made for cleaning my bathtub) that I call ...
LOL @ the Biter Killer and Bite Choo! Lol. The bath stick and toilet paper is a good idea! I usually wet a wash cloth if I see one in the bathroom, then sling the rag on them. When it's wet it's heavy enough to hold them under there. Lol. Doesn't always land on them though so the stick is a really great idea. That'll have to be my next project. Lol.

Oh my! I'd be so upset if I paid to have my house exterminated and it made me sick and didn't work on top of it! I have heard so many people say that it doesn't work. I can't bring myself to pay that much for it. There's usually a cheaper solution that at least helps.

KYTOANGEL:
OMG! Lol. That sounds terrible. You poor thing. My twin and I used to mix crazy stuff together and call it "our potions." No idea what it was about mixing fun ingredients, but we'd have the house stinking to high heavens for days with crazy glue, nail polish and perfume mixtures. Ha ha. Nothing that actually caused our eyes and lungs to burn. Bless your heart! I remember my dad would swear we were going to blow the house up. I guess we thought we were little scientists and our play room was our lab. Hee Hee. I guess I never really grew out of mixing concoctions lol. I even make my own perfume now! OK... Sorry, I get sidetracked

ROSSIE: I'm glad you brought that up! I know this is probaby dumb, but what do I look for? What do the eggs/sacs look like? I was talking about this to my partner today and we decided to look up images, but I can't tell. Are they those actual white eggs that get in the windows and look similar to a q-tip end? Then I read some are almost invisible? I have all colored walls in my house so surely I'd see the white balls? Or are there little bitty things that aren't easy to see? I will have to check our house and see for eggs. ICK! lol. Also, Rossie, I read that vinegar will kill the eggs. Idk how true it is, but it may be something you'd want to try.

Yes, once upon a time I had a trusty ol hand held vaccum. Worked wonders for getting the webs in corners. A friend stole my darn charger to it though! I really need to look for a new charger because that would come in handy! Maybe I'd be better off buying a whole new hand held anyways.

LOL. I know... crazy lady bug idea! I read it somewhere and that's something else my partner and I discussed during our spider convo today. I didn't know their exact diet, but I definitely don't see them eating any medium-large spider. There's a site that even sells them to rid spiders from your garden? I think they also kill spider "mites." I have no clue. I only read about it for the first time at 4am this morning. Lol.
05/02/2012
K101 K101
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Originally posted by El-Jaro
I dunno...I like my Spider.
LOL! I was afraid to click that link at first. I clicked and pinched my eyes shut, opened and whew! Thank God it was not a real spider. Lol. Still, I couldn't resist clicking!
05/02/2012
Raigne Raigne
Quote:
Originally posted by K101
No problem. I actually did mention therapy to my partner today, but then said "Never mind that, I don't want to pay for some therapy when ridding them would be cheaper." LOL. I know that this fear is really annoying though, but I hate ...
My particular phobia was something that I absolutely had to learn to cope with. I realized what a problem it was when I was at the Smithsonian, refusing to go see the Hope diamond because there was a large crowd and no way for me to hug the wall to avoid getting too close to the balcony (which was, by the way, almost ten feet wide, and I had a very large, very strong male friend right next to me, so there was no risk of falling). It triggers on stairs too. If you don't think therapy would help you, then it probably won't.

The fact that you can deal with little ones is good. What you have to realize is that their inclination when they see you is to get away, and that a book or the bottom of a shoe is probably more dangerous to them than they are to you. The pole idea will probably help a lot. If you can get comfortable dealing with them with that, you'll probably start to be more comfortable handling them at closer range.

Lastly, I don't know if this will give you peace of mind at all, but the figure about the number of spiders you swallow in your sleep is baseless fear mongering. Like I said, if you move, they will run away, and they know better than to crawl into the mouth of something clearly alive. This is the same reason that most "spider bites" people wake up with aren't actually from spiders. They wouldn't leave two puncture marks. Usually it's a mosquito that was interrupted and moved a little. I wish I could find you the article I got this information from, but it did come from an arachnologist.
05/02/2012
P'Gell P'Gell
Quote:
Originally posted by K101
LOL @ the Biter Killer and Bite Choo! Lol. The bath stick and toilet paper is a good idea! I usually wet a wash cloth if I see one in the bathroom, then sling the rag on them. When it's wet it's heavy enough to hold them under there. Lol. ...
Yeah. My kids think it's hilarious, my fear of "Biters." They'll get an image of a... horrible spider or... worse (gag) close up of their horrible 8 eyed faces on their lap tops and them go, "Mama! LOOK!" I scream.... then they laugh. Evil little things, my children are. My middle one cries if I kill one and she put them on paper and puts them outside.... while I stand on the other side of the room dry heaving and saying, "GAG, don't drop that..Gag... freaking thing in my GAG... house!"

SHUDDER
05/02/2012
Ansley Ansley
Quote:
Originally posted by K101
No problem. I actually did mention therapy to my partner today, but then said "Never mind that, I don't want to pay for some therapy when ridding them would be cheaper." LOL. I know that this fear is really annoying though, but I hate ...
Oh good! I use lysol wipes. I love those things so hard. They are great for EVERYTHING.
05/02/2012
Rin (aka Nire) Rin (aka Nire)
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Originally posted by K101
No problem. I actually did mention therapy to my partner today, but then said "Never mind that, I don't want to pay for some therapy when ridding them would be cheaper." LOL. I know that this fear is really annoying though, but I hate ...
About the therapy, think of this: Even if it did turn out to be cheaper to get rid of the spiders in your house (which I honestly doubt), you'd still have to deal with them anywhere else you went. If you helped yourself psychologically though, then the problem will have been dealt with pretty much permanently. Life wouldn't be able to throw you any spider curve-balls.

Seeing as spiders are pretty much "readily available" wherever you go, you might be able to do your own exposure therapy, slowly getting used to them over time. Something to think about.
05/02/2012
Rossie Rossie
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Originally posted by K101
LOL @ the Biter Killer and Bite Choo! Lol. The bath stick and toilet paper is a good idea! I usually wet a wash cloth if I see one in the bathroom, then sling the rag on them. When it's wet it's heavy enough to hold them under there. Lol. ...
You're right, some silky white egg sacs resemble a Q-tip's end, but others may be just silky masses in various sizes; their color can range from white to cream to light brown. I usually walk around the exterior of my house, looking up and down to spot those silky pouches; when I find something suspicious, I'll take it down and crush it completely to make sure nothing is still alive.
05/03/2012
dv8 dv8
Just think about how many spiders in your lifetime crawl into your nose or mouth while you sleep.
05/04/2012
Rin (aka Nire) Rin (aka Nire)
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Originally posted by dv8
Just think about how many spiders in your lifetime crawl into your nose or mouth while you sleep.
While this may happen on rare occasions, the idea that it's a common occurrence is an urban legend often used as an example of how gullible people can be. The inside of a wet, breathing cavern generally isn't high on a spider's list of places it wants to be.
05/05/2012
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