Would/have you ever? Abortion. Private poll.

Contributor: BBW Talks Toys BBW Talks Toys
Wow. Okay, emotions are a little high here. We should all just chill and have a or get some or even go play with our for a while.

Personally, I'd never do it but I would never tell anyone that they cannot do it. I agree that late-term abortions are bad. But I would also say that there needs to be the right to choose. And honestly, most people having late-term abortions are not having them by choice, they are having them, basically, as a D&C. There is no viability of the child that they have inside them and are forced to go through with it. Then some idiot thinking they're very righteous stands outside a PP clinic and calls them a murderer (happened to an acquaintance of mine). There needs to be some more compassion in the world. And for those of you who are Christians: Christ's message was one of compassion and love and mercy and GRACE.... not conviction and judgment. (Lest you remove the plank from your OWN eye!)

And honestly, until you're willing to foster and adopt children, advocating foster care is just a slightly "easy answer." Not all foster parents are the type of parent that you would be/have been.

But seriously... we all need to just chill and have a or get some or even go play with our for a while.

01/24/2011
Contributor: onehotmomma onehotmomma
The first time I was pregnant I had a tubal pregnancy and thankfully caught it early on and didn't have too many complications from it. Thank god from then on it has been pretty smooth sailing as far as my pregnancies have went.

I felt worse than I have ever felt, but at the same time, I didn't have a choice. The baby would not have developed, and it put me in danger as well.
01/24/2011
Contributor: sweet seduction sweet seduction
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Originally posted by onehotmomma
The first time I was pregnant I had a tubal pregnancy and thankfully caught it early on and didn't have too many complications from it. Thank god from then on it has been pretty smooth sailing as far as my pregnancies have went.

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I'm glad you caught it in time, this is a shinning example of why abortions are required at times.
01/24/2011
Contributor: sweet seduction sweet seduction
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Originally posted by Emma (Girl With Fire)
Thank you. I didn't really feel that conflicted about it. I was just scared. My family situation was really really messed up and my mother kept kicking me out of the house and then refusing she had done so.

Abortions aren't fun, there ... more
O I know the symptoms I have a 4 month old daughter, she's my life and my angel but it's just not in the cards for some. I agree with abortion on part because I had a friend who was bipolar. She came off her meds for her pregnancy, the day after she brought her daughter home from the hospital she smothered her to death with a pillow because she wouldn't stop crying. Yes I believe in general that abortion is still murder but I wish she would have had one instead of the choice she made. She ended her childs life in a moment of desperation and she will never be able to live that down.
01/24/2011
Contributor: Alan & Michele Alan & Michele
I went into premature labor and our son was born at roughly 24 weeks term. He was tiny (duh!) with underdeveloped lungs, but he lived, and he grew into a healthy adult. So forgive me when I say that the thought of women having late-term abortions turns my stomach in a major way.

That being said, our next child miscarried, but our next died in the womb at 12 weeks and didn't miscarry. We opted for an abortion rather than to "wait and see" if it would expel on its own. They sent us to state hospital's abortion clinic to have it done, and that was probably the worst experience I've ever had in my life. The place was filthy, the nurses treated me like crap, and I got a very rude and opinionated birth control lecture by the doctor DURING the procedure. Hey dumbass doc... we were TRYING to have another baby! And then when it was over we had to walk through the gauntlet of radical anti-abortionists in the parking lot who were yelling at us for being baby killers. They knew nothing about us and the fact that we were actually mourning the loss of our baby. They were just playing the good judgmental "Christians". I hope that anybody who stands with those groups will think about that.

After that I was so terrified of getting pregnant again that Alan got a vasectomy. I highly doubt if abortion is an easy choice or an easy thing to endure for many women, because it's NO cakewalk physically or mentally. My hands are actually shaking just writing about it.

Would I do it again if I somehow wound up pregnant? No. But do I think that women should be able to make that choice? Yes.
01/24/2011
Contributor: BBW Talks Toys BBW Talks Toys
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Originally posted by Alan & Michele
I went into premature labor and our son was born at roughly 24 weeks term. He was tiny (duh!) with underdeveloped lungs, but he lived, and he grew into a healthy adult. So forgive me when I say that the thought of women having late-term abortions ... more
And unfortunately, that happens more often than not. The people who "rally" with their judgments have no idea of the circumstances surrounding their visit to a clinic like that. They have no idea that these women might already be grieving the loss of their baby.

Those people make me very
01/24/2011
Contributor: sweet seduction sweet seduction
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Originally posted by Alan & Michele
I went into premature labor and our son was born at roughly 24 weeks term. He was tiny (duh!) with underdeveloped lungs, but he lived, and he grew into a healthy adult. So forgive me when I say that the thought of women having late-term abortions ... more
I am so sorry this happened to you. Some people don't know that words can hurt.
01/25/2011
Contributor: girl next door girl next door
every woman has the right to choose what works for them
02/05/2011
Contributor: Gunsmoke Gunsmoke
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Originally posted by girl next door
every woman has the right to choose what works for them
Up until what point? Is it ok to dismember a fetus to perform an abortion? It's legal - that doesn't make it moral.
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    I am personally offended by this
02/05/2011
Contributor: Gunsmoke Gunsmoke
I see my post on this issue was flagged as offensive. Like you I find the practice abhorrent - but it's a fact. Can one take offense at the simple statement of a fact?

Supporting 'choice' ends up making you a supporter of the taking of a human life for the sake of convenience.

My intent was not to offend - but to motivate people to take into account the real life consequences of the decisions they make and the causes they support.
02/05/2011
Contributor: Miss Madeline Miss Madeline
I have never had an abortion. I would have one if I felt that was the best solution. I don't know that it is fair to say I would have no regrets, I think it would be a huge source of grief to me and one that would require some counseling but I wouldn't come to the choice lightly, so I wouldn't be at a point when I wished I hadn't done it.

Of course, I say that sitting here today--not having had an abortion and not faced with that choice--without knowing how I would react or feel.
02/05/2011
Contributor: Miss Madeline Miss Madeline
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Originally posted by Gunsmoke
I see my post on this issue was flagged as offensive. Like you I find the practice abhorrent - but it's a fact. Can one take offense at the simple statement of a fact?

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Convenience? Is that why you think women get abortions, really?

Most Planned Parenthoods accept volunteers as do most hotline that deal with grief counseling. Perhaps you should consider volunteering for either.

Having an abortion is not a decision that most women equate with convenience. Supporting choice doesn't mean you don't value human life anymore than not supporting choice means you are callous to the suffering of others...
02/05/2011
Contributor: Gunsmoke Gunsmoke
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Originally posted by Miss Madeline
Convenience? Is that why you think women get abortions, really?

Most Planned Parenthoods accept volunteers as do most hotline that deal with grief counseling. Perhaps you should consider volunteering for either.

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I will concede that convenience may not be the best characterization.

Can we agree that the grotesque practice of late term abortions should not be allowed?

At some point a woman's right to choose is lost - even now it is not legal after a certain point. This limitation is based on the decision at some point the fetus also has rights.

A person or killing a pregnant woman will face 2 counts of murder - doesn't this suggest that fetus is a life? You can't murder a 'ball of cells' as some describe the child.
02/05/2011
Contributor: Miss Madeline Miss Madeline
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Originally posted by Gunsmoke
I will concede that convenience may not be the best characterization.

Can we agree that the grotesque practice of late term abortions should not be allowed?

At some point a woman's right to choose is lost - even now it is not legal ... more
I would say that at one point laws said that it was ok to beat your wife, that teacher should be children, the women can't vote, and many many many more things that the law was frankly wrong about.

I would not consider getting a late term abortion but I don't want ANYBODY, from lawmakers to forum posters, to make my choice for me or anyone else. I don't go around saying that organ donation is the only ethical choice and that is what you should do with your body. I make a choice for me and expect my government to uphold my rights to my body.
02/05/2011
Contributor: KatPawz2003 KatPawz2003
I picked other because I can think of only two reason that I would ever get an abortion. In all other cases I would keep the baby and do what I have to in order to take care of it. One reason would be if I had a health issue that would endanger both me and the child should I carry it to term. The second is in a case of a rape I would not be able to handle emotionaly or mentaly having the child and it would trigger my depression to a state of being a danger to myself.
02/06/2011
Contributor: Gunsmoke Gunsmoke
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Originally posted by Miss Madeline
I would say that at one point laws said that it was ok to beat your wife, that teacher should be children, the women can't vote, and many many many more things that the law was frankly wrong about.

I would not consider getting a late term ... more
At what point is it not your choice? In most states after 20-24 weeks it's out of your hands - the law says no abortion. Is that fair?
02/06/2011
Contributor: VieuxCarre VieuxCarre
I wouldn't do it, but I don't necessarily see it as "wrong" either. I would much rather people have the baby and put it up for adoption if they know they can't provide for it/don't want it as opposed to just snuffing out a life.

Now, if it comes down to life or death in the mother's case, like I went through, it's the only option. If no one is going to survive if the pregnancy continues...that's the only option. I felt selfish after I had the procedure because I made the choice to stay alive, but at the same time none of us would have been alive.

So, yeah, it's a tender issue. It's not wrong, but it's not right either.
02/06/2011
Contributor: gone77 gone77
Hey, guys:

Just stepping in here to say that I hope this thread remains civil. There have been some strong opinions posted here, which is absolutely fine, I just ask that you all remember that what you say can be hurtful. We're all human beings with real feelings. Let's not forget that. Thanks, guys.
02/07/2011
Contributor: jfree jfree
Well this is a can of worms.

I haven't needed one and I'd definitely consider it if it weren't the right time. I don't have many (if any) moral issues with abortion.
02/07/2011
Contributor: SexyTabby SexyTabby
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Originally posted by gone77
Hey, guys:

Just stepping in here to say that I hope this thread remains civil. There have been some strong opinions posted here, which is absolutely fine, I just ask that you all remember that what you say can be hurtful. We're all human ... more
True.

I think people should remember that we are not in each others shoes so can't know what the best decision for others is. What we think is okay is not necessarily what others think is okay. What we find disturbing is not what others find that way. This is no different then any other debate. There will always be pros and cons but the final decision comes from what each individual feels, needs and wants. Life is the most amazing thing in the world and should be respected but tolerance is required to live so there has to be give and take in all parties.

Do they honestly do late term abortions in the USA? I thought that was something people talked about when referencing other countries. Regardless of where I don't agree with them at all. The first trimester abortions are hard enough to accept but necessary for reasons I've already stated but once a embryo can support its self it's simply wrong. If there were a medical reason for it I suppose it's necessary but if it's because of a personal choice - late term abortions shouldn't be allowed. They have had enough time to make their decision already.
02/07/2011
Contributor: Victoria Victoria
I truly hope that some of the heated posts here lead to deeper compassion for each other and not feelings of polarity and isolation. You WILL NEVER KNOW what it is like for someone else in a situation that would require making this decision, so please do not judge. The only thing any of us can ever really say is 100% "right" is what is right for us.

Be kind to each other, y'all.
02/07/2011
Contributor: sarahbear sarahbear
I have not, nor have I ever seriously considered having one. While I fully support every woman's right to bodily autonomy and feel they should be allowed to terminate a pregnancy they do not want to carry to term, I could not personally choose to end a pregnancy.
02/07/2011
Contributor: BBW Talks Toys BBW Talks Toys
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Originally posted by SexyTabby
True.

I think people should remember that we are not in each others shoes so can't know what the best decision for others is. What we think is okay is not necessarily what others think is okay. What we find disturbing is not what others ... more
Yes they do late term abortions in the US. I worked with a woman who chose to have a late-term abortion based on the possibility that her child would have Downs. She was 5 months along, well past mid-point.
02/07/2011
Contributor: freshbananas freshbananas
I a little surprised by the answers. Thanks for posting!
02/07/2011
Contributor: Gunsmoke Gunsmoke
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Originally posted by gone77
Hey, guys:

Just stepping in here to say that I hope this thread remains civil. There have been some strong opinions posted here, which is absolutely fine, I just ask that you all remember that what you say can be hurtful. We're all human ... more
Kristi:

Honestly this is probably not the right place to have a discussion on abortion. But when some asks a question like this, there must be some expectation of disagreement.

CNN recently reported that support for abortion in the US has dropped to 47% - read the article if you like OLITICS" rel="nofollow">link.

Regardless the process is legal but as with all rights - there are limits. Everyone has heard that freedom of speech is limited - (the old adage 'you can't cry fire in a crowded theater) - even though freedom of speech is specifically delinted in our constitution.

The point of my comments was to reiterate that there are and must be limits - even on a woman's right to choose.

Limits are a necessary component of a civil society.

My suggestion to EF is to prohibit discussion of topics like abortion - limits can be a good thing!
02/07/2011
Contributor: ❦Angel Of Music❦ ❦Angel Of Music❦
I have never had an abortion nor have ever been pregnant. In my opinion for myself, I cannot foresee choosing abortion. I am NOT financially stable, but if I were to end up pregnant, I know my family would be as supportive as possible when is comes to helping me out. I take precautions to ensure I do not end up pregnant, but if I do, I could not see myself having an abortion.
02/07/2011
Contributor: SexyTabby SexyTabby
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Originally posted by BBW Talks Toys
Yes they do late term abortions in the US. I worked with a woman who chose to have a late-term abortion based on the possibility that her child would have Downs. She was 5 months along, well past mid-point.
But that's a medical reason not totally a personal choice. It may be the risk was high for her or something. Still, I was told the same thing with my first son and didn't care. I had been through too much to finally have a baby - I would have accepted him any way God gave him to me. Seeing that lil heart beating and baby squirming was a love and bond that started long before 5 months along. Thankfully the test was a false positive and he turned out just fine.
02/07/2011
Contributor: Darling Jen Darling Jen
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Originally posted by SexyTabby
True.

I think people should remember that we are not in each others shoes so can't know what the best decision for others is. What we think is okay is not necessarily what others think is okay. What we find disturbing is not what others ... more
You always find a way to say things beautifully.

And only about 1% of all abortions performed in the U.S. are at or after 21 weeks gestation. I did some research for this thread and posted it earlier. I agree that it's pretty horrible to think about. But also, not all those abortions are merely women saying "Eh, I changed my mind". Usually it's reasons like the fetus already died and the mother's body can't adjust. Even if the baby is dead, the medical term is "abortion" to describe the body's rejection and expulsions of the mass. Still highly depressing. I've known women having to deal with this after thinking they were past the stage of high miscarriage risk and then to be told the baby didn't make it is... well, heartbreaking.
02/07/2011
Contributor: Darling Jen Darling Jen
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Originally posted by BBW Talks Toys
Yes they do late term abortions in the US. I worked with a woman who chose to have a late-term abortion based on the possibility that her child would have Downs. She was 5 months along, well past mid-point.
That is so not right... I mean, I guess she thought it was ok... But wow...
02/07/2011
Contributor: Rayne Millaray Rayne Millaray
I've never had an abortion, and my tubes are tied, so hopefully, I'll never be faced with the decision again.

I'm not sure how I feel about it on any level. I didn't know when I was 16, and pregnant with my son, either, so I had him.

What I do know is that when abortion wasn't legal, women got them anyway, and died from complications. And I'd rather they be legal than have those days back.

I know I'll never want another child. I know I probably won't ever be in a place where having an infant strapped to my hip for any period of time won't make me suicidal. I know I don't have the patience for a toddler. Teenagers make me crazy. So if you want to give me a kid who's all fully grown, I'm all for it. But another 18 years of kid, when my baby's 9? Yer buggin.

And I know that if I carry a baby to term, no matter how determined I am to give it a better life with someone who really wants but can't have children, the second I see that tiny little face on the monitor, I won't be able to. I did it four times.

So, yeah... I've considered it. Mostly what kept me from it was fear that the right-to-lifers are right, and there's a price.
02/07/2011