I thought that his sex life was his (and his wife's) business, not mine.
Did you care about Clinton's infamous sexual act?
08/10/2011
Didn't affect my opinion of him as a politician. I think he's fairly good actually.
08/10/2011
what happens in someones privet life is none of my business as long as it doesnt interfer with them doing the job they were elected for.
08/18/2011
I don't care about the act, but I do care about his lying under oath and accusations of rape.
08/19/2011
i did not have sexual relations with that woman!
08/19/2011
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What made global news was the fuss Americans made over the incident, the political uproar, investigations, and ultimately accusation and trial on charges of perjury and obstruction of justice by the USA president, for obfuscating and trying to duck questions about a blowjob. By the way - he WAS ACQUITTED of all the charges.
Originally posted by
Yoda
I find it hard to believe that no one cared. It made global news for months, after all.
I am sure that no respectable US politician in office, male or female, would hesitate or try to duck questions about having oral sex with someone, especially someone not their spouse, right? Especially if interviewed on global TV with her, not under oath. But he apologized, accepting that US presidents should never lie even about sex or their marriages or their children or how pretty that some infant really is (or isn't).
Just as no male, if caught two-timing a gf or spouse, or questioned about intimate details of their sex life, would duck those questions - right, ladies and gentlemen?
And of course it totally disqualifies someone from any position of trust, in any capacity, because of course all good people volunteer all sexual details when questioned without hesitation. Because it affects how we do our jobs, right?
It wasn't about the sex - except it was, for some Americans and for most politicians.
08/20/2011
i did not have sexual relations with that woman!!!1
08/24/2011
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The sexual act itself did not bother me. What bothered me was that he essentially lied.
Originally posted by
callsignhusker
Been wanting to do a poll on this!
08/31/2011
It didn't phase me. Should he have cheated on his wife and gotten a BJ from a colleague... NO. Is that his personal life... YES I thought he was a fantastic president.
08/31/2011
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But then again you were 12 or 13 at the time - so how good can it be to have someone who committed perjury as the leader of the nation?
Originally posted by
Sunshineamine
It didn't phase me. Should he have cheated on his wife and gotten a BJ from a colleague... NO. Is that his personal life... YES I thought he was a fantastic president.
I didn't care about his adultery - but his perjury was not acceptable. He owed it to all concerned to be honest - and be man enough to face the consequences.
08/31/2011
I don't care about the sexual aspect. I DO care that he lied about it. I don't want a president who lies.
08/31/2011
I agree with PGell. Did a blowjob compromise the security of our country in any way? No. Who cares? I'm sure it's not the worst thing to happen in the Oval Office.
08/31/2011
I don't care that he did it. I don't approve, but I don't care about the act. I REALLY care that he lied about it. I think the president should be as good as the office. That truely lacked integrity, and I refuse to accept any reason that attempts to justify it.
09/24/2011
I was a little girl and actually had no idea what oral sex meant until I got much older. I was pretty damn sheltered over here lol.
When I got older, I was not happy about him cheating on his wife though. I'm big on monogamy though.
When I got older, I was not happy about him cheating on his wife though. I'm big on monogamy though.
09/24/2011
I was happy for him for getting some.
09/24/2011
I really could care less about politics, but if I did, I guess I'd be mad that he had lied, but couldn't care less that he had sexual relations with someone that isn't his wife. What he does in his sexy times is his/his wife's/the partner of his's business.
10/05/2011
I still love him.
10/05/2011
He lied about something he never should have been asked. Bush ducked questions about virtually everything and was not forced to answer, nor was he put before Congress and grilled about WAR CRIMES.
What is worse? Lying about a blow job? (Knowing of course that ALL people are always forthright and forthcoming about their sexual indiscretions even if the people asking them the questions have NO RIGHT to ask.) Or fucking up the country so badly that we may not recover for decades?
It's really a matter of scale. Bush tried to blame all his political problems on Clinton. Clinton was the best Administrator of my lifetime. He didn't blame anyone but himself for his mistakes and has even admitted, now that NAFTA was a mistake.
When Bush admits his mistakes and is brought before Congress to answer questions about his personal life AND his fucking up of MY country, then we'll talk. We need to impeach the bastard retroactively.
What is worse? Lying about a blow job? (Knowing of course that ALL people are always forthright and forthcoming about their sexual indiscretions even if the people asking them the questions have NO RIGHT to ask.) Or fucking up the country so badly that we may not recover for decades?
It's really a matter of scale. Bush tried to blame all his political problems on Clinton. Clinton was the best Administrator of my lifetime. He didn't blame anyone but himself for his mistakes and has even admitted, now that NAFTA was a mistake.
When Bush admits his mistakes and is brought before Congress to answer questions about his personal life AND his fucking up of MY country, then we'll talk. We need to impeach the bastard retroactively.
10/05/2011
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why does it matter what he does in his personal life? especially if it's something half of men do anyway?
Originally posted by
callsignhusker
Been wanting to do a poll on this!
if he were to take up putting babies on spikes in his free time, that'd be different.
10/13/2011
Not at all
10/26/2011
Don't care its non of my business. All I care about is how he handled the country as a president. What he did is nothing new, lol.
10/26/2011
Why are we still talking about this?
Aside from Roosevelt and Kennedy - no other presidents have been having extra-marital sex in the White House. Truman, Eisenhower, Johnson, Nixon, Carter, Reagan, Bush 41 & Bush 43 and Obama have all had enough respect for themselves, their wives and the office of president to avoid dragging themselves through the mud.
Courage and integrity often involve self control and sacrifice - say what you will about Mr. Clinton - but he failed at these tests.
Aside from Roosevelt and Kennedy - no other presidents have been having extra-marital sex in the White House. Truman, Eisenhower, Johnson, Nixon, Carter, Reagan, Bush 41 & Bush 43 and Obama have all had enough respect for themselves, their wives and the office of president to avoid dragging themselves through the mud.
Courage and integrity often involve self control and sacrifice - say what you will about Mr. Clinton - but he failed at these tests.
10/26/2011
The thing that bothered me was how the trial became about whether he had had sex in the Oval Office. Monica was just supposed to be yet another witness that Clinton used his political power to demand or coerce sexual favors from women. You know, what we would otherwise term as sexual harassment or even rape. The problem was that they chose the wrong woman. Maybe she had been dazzled by his position and charisma into a sexual relationship, but she had gone into it willingly. Stupidly, but willingly.
My dad explained this to me at the time, and I was horrified that prominent feminist organizations came forward to support him, making cracks about how his sexual proclivities were fine, as long as he kept abortion legal. That's where I started getting rather soured on the idea of mainstream feminism as something that cared about me as in individual female, as opposed to a political force.
My dad explained this to me at the time, and I was horrified that prominent feminist organizations came forward to support him, making cracks about how his sexual proclivities were fine, as long as he kept abortion legal. That's where I started getting rather soured on the idea of mainstream feminism as something that cared about me as in individual female, as opposed to a political force.
11/11/2011
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Please stop saying or intimating he raped people.
Originally posted by
hyacinthgirl
The thing that bothered me was how the trial became about whether he had had sex in the Oval Office. Monica was just supposed to be yet another witness that Clinton used his political power to demand or coerce sexual favors from women. You know, what
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The thing that bothered me was how the trial became about whether he had had sex in the Oval Office. Monica was just supposed to be yet another witness that Clinton used his political power to demand or coerce sexual favors from women. You know, what we would otherwise term as sexual harassment or even rape. The problem was that they chose the wrong woman. Maybe she had been dazzled by his position and charisma into a sexual relationship, but she had gone into it willingly. Stupidly, but willingly.
My dad explained this to me at the time, and I was horrified that prominent feminist organizations came forward to support him, making cracks about how his sexual proclivities were fine, as long as he kept abortion legal. That's where I started getting rather soured on the idea of mainstream feminism as something that cared about me as in individual female, as opposed to a political force. less
My dad explained this to me at the time, and I was horrified that prominent feminist organizations came forward to support him, making cracks about how his sexual proclivities were fine, as long as he kept abortion legal. That's where I started getting rather soured on the idea of mainstream feminism as something that cared about me as in individual female, as opposed to a political force. less
It's really silly and didn't happen. Yeah, he's a horny man-whore. Big deal. Men have been using power and influence to get laid for centuries, but if there is consent, and the woman is of age, is isn't rape. (It's really a slap in the face to those of us who WERE sexually assaulted to call completely consensual "powerful man sex" rape. Really a slap in the face to women who have been forcibly raped. It diffuses the meaning of "rape" and is hurtful and damaging to those women who HAVE BEEN forcibly raped.)
But, even most mature people who don't like him know that nothing akin to rape was ever performed by William Jefferson Clinton.
11/11/2011
Hi, I was also sexually assaulted, and forcibly raped by my ex-husband. Sexual harassment and rape was what he was originally accused of, and I do think using political power to demand sexual favors is rape. Just like guilting or whining at a woman until she submits, or using a position of power to suggest that performing sexual acts is the only way to get ahead or to maintain a current position. He didn't with Monica, but he was alleged to have used his position to demand favors from other women. That was what he was on trial for.
11/11/2011
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No, he was "on trial" for "lying to Congress" when they asked private questions they never should have asked about his sex life. (And why the hell are you bringing... abortion into this? What does one have to do with the other?)
Originally posted by
hyacinthgirl
Hi, I was also sexually assaulted, and forcibly raped by my ex-husband. Sexual harassment and rape was what he was originally accused of, and I do think using political power to demand sexual favors is rape. Just like guilting or whining at a woman
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Hi, I was also sexually assaulted, and forcibly raped by my ex-husband. Sexual harassment and rape was what he was originally accused of, and I do think using political power to demand sexual favors is rape. Just like guilting or whining at a woman until she submits, or using a position of power to suggest that performing sexual acts is the only way to get ahead or to maintain a current position. He didn't with Monica, but he was alleged to have used his position to demand favors from other women. That was what he was on trial for.
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If you were sexually assaulted (and I'm sorry if that happened) then you know being "whined at" or "guilted" is not the same as being harmed by being taken by force. You can always say NO to a whiner. And you can even say NO to someone with Political Power.
When someone takes one by physical force (especially as a child, like happened to me) one see a LOT of difference between what happened to one and someone "begging or whining" for sex. There is simply NO comparison.
I resent a woman saying someone "whined" at her (like Flowers) being compared to forcible rape. If you were forcibly raped, I would think you would see the difference. If you were forcibly raped, how can you compare them? I would think you could see the huge difference between a man begging for sex and actual non-consensual, fighting for your life forcible sexual assault.
What Clinton did sexually was not even in the same ballpark as the sexual abuse I suffered as a child or what a women who is physically forcibly raped because she can't physically get away suffers. I don't like them compared.
I'm done talking about this.
11/11/2011
Hes not the first and im sure not the last
11/14/2011
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What people do in their bedroom is their business only. I feel that it was horrible of the American people and media to put his wife and children in a position like they did. They were stuck int he media, when they were the hurt ones. We were not going through what his wife was, we only made it harder for them as a family.
Originally posted by
callsignhusker
Been wanting to do a poll on this!
11/22/2011
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Yea but he had sex in the Oval Office - not his bedroom.
Originally posted by
Cherry21
What people do in their bedroom is their business only. I feel that it was horrible of the American people and media to put his wife and children in a position like they did. They were stuck int he media, when they were the hurt ones. We were not
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What people do in their bedroom is their business only. I feel that it was horrible of the American people and media to put his wife and children in a position like they did. They were stuck int he media, when they were the hurt ones. We were not going through what his wife was, we only made it harder for them as a family.
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Try having sex in your local courthouse - same thing because they are both public property.
What WJC did was in very bad taste. His real crime was one of cowardice. If you're going to have sex with the intern, be man enough to admit it. His public denials were amateurish and unbecoming of the President.
11/22/2011
not really he's still human
11/22/2011