Any ultrasound, invasive or not. This is the question circulating our legislators right now, thanks to the GOP.
Should a woman who wants an abortion be forced to get an ultrasound?
02/28/2012
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No, and especially not an unnecessary vaginal one. -____-
It should only be a question if it is truly medically necessary due to complications of some kind, perhaps.
It should only be a question if it is truly medically necessary due to complications of some kind, perhaps.
02/29/2012
I am a firm believer that no one should be "forced" to do anything they don't want to do. As against abortion as I am PERSONALLY, I'm equally against big government and mandatory regulations for private individuals. I think the government should stay out of the abortion issue.
02/29/2012
No.
02/29/2012
No, it should be up to the medical professionals, not politicians, when to administer an ultrasound.
02/29/2012
Only when medically necessary.
02/29/2012
I think it is a waste of money to force a woman to do an unnecessary medical procedure.
02/29/2012
Absolutely not! Why should the government be able to decide? I think it's completely asinine and just way out-of-line.
02/29/2012
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I agree!
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bayosgirl
I am a firm believer that no one should be "forced" to do anything they don't want to do. As against abortion as I am PERSONALLY, I'm equally against big government and mandatory regulations for private individuals. I think the
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I am a firm believer that no one should be "forced" to do anything they don't want to do. As against abortion as I am PERSONALLY, I'm equally against big government and mandatory regulations for private individuals. I think the government should stay out of the abortion issue.
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02/29/2012
HELL NO.
02/29/2012
An ultrasound should be performed to see how far along she is, but she shouldn't be forced to view said ultrasound or be shamed during the procedure. Unfortunately, some nurses just can't help but put their two cents in on the matter. (I speak from experience.)
02/29/2012
This pretty much sums up the battle ...
Personally, I don't see what a pack of upper-middle class white men have to do with women's reproduction systems. They act like they're entitled to do and rule what they want about the matter ...
Personally, I don't see what a pack of upper-middle class white men have to do with women's reproduction systems. They act like they're entitled to do and rule what they want about the matter ...
02/29/2012
I wish men could take a pill or something so they could experience the symptoms of pregnancy. Sure, it would only scratch the surface, but maybe it will let them get an inkling of what it's like.
Let them get pregnant. Then see how they feel.
Let them get pregnant. Then see how they feel.
02/29/2012
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These are my feelings on the matter as well.
Originally posted by
Ansley
An ultrasound should be performed to see how far along she is, but she shouldn't be forced to view said ultrasound or be shamed during the procedure. Unfortunately, some nurses just can't help but put their two cents in on the matter. (I
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An ultrasound should be performed to see how far along she is, but she shouldn't be forced to view said ultrasound or be shamed during the procedure. Unfortunately, some nurses just can't help but put their two cents in on the matter. (I speak from experience.)
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02/29/2012
That wouldn't really give the full freedom to choose, now would it? I voted no.
02/29/2012
The Right claims to want "smaller government" and they claim to not want the government in "our lives" but I guess that only applies to when our lives are making money in evil ways, and personal freedom of reproduction doesn't play into "the government getting into our lives."
Forcing a woman to have an intravaginal ultrasound before terminating a pregnancy is only to humiliate the woman. I heard a Right Winger in favor of this, when confronted with the fact that many women wouldn't give consent to that kind of vaginal penetration say, "She gave consent to vaginal penetration when she got pregnant." WHAT THE FUCK is wrong with these people?
Forcing a woman to have an intravaginal ultrasound before terminating a pregnancy is only to humiliate the woman. I heard a Right Winger in favor of this, when confronted with the fact that many women wouldn't give consent to that kind of vaginal penetration say, "She gave consent to vaginal penetration when she got pregnant." WHAT THE FUCK is wrong with these people?
02/29/2012
I think that they could prove to be important, because there could be complications and the mother could be farther along than she thinks, so I think they should be done before an abortion, but that would be up to the Dr not the government, but if it takes the government to decide that for safety reasons somethings should be done, I am not opposed.
02/29/2012
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See? The entitlement. Not what's her choice ... maybe it's their idea of vicarious rape or something to insist on this obsolete form of ultrasound.
Originally posted by
P'Gell
The Right claims to want "smaller government" and they claim to not want the government in "our lives" but I guess that only applies to when our lives are making money in evil ways, and personal freedom of reproduction doesn't
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The Right claims to want "smaller government" and they claim to not want the government in "our lives" but I guess that only applies to when our lives are making money in evil ways, and personal freedom of reproduction doesn't play into "the government getting into our lives."
Forcing a woman to have an intravaginal ultrasound before terminating a pregnancy is only to humiliate the woman. I heard a Right Winger in favor of this, when confronted with the fact that many women wouldn't give consent to that kind of vaginal penetration say, "She gave consent to vaginal penetration when she got pregnant." WHAT THE FUCK is wrong with these people? less
Forcing a woman to have an intravaginal ultrasound before terminating a pregnancy is only to humiliate the woman. I heard a Right Winger in favor of this, when confronted with the fact that many women wouldn't give consent to that kind of vaginal penetration say, "She gave consent to vaginal penetration when she got pregnant." WHAT THE FUCK is wrong with these people? less
02/29/2012
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Sometimes an abdominal ultrasound is done, if the woman's dates are off and don't correspond to the size of her uterus during a pelvic exam. Or she has had some bleeding. But, what the Right wants is intravaginal ultrasound (as Chili said) is not only an outdated method of ultrasound (a huge, dildo like probe is inserted into the vagina, and it was used before the much more effective 4 D Ultrasound.)
Originally posted by
Beck
I think that they could prove to be important, because there could be complications and the mother could be farther along than she thinks, so I think they should be done before an abortion, but that would be up to the Dr not the government, but if it
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I think that they could prove to be important, because there could be complications and the mother could be farther along than she thinks, so I think they should be done before an abortion, but that would be up to the Dr not the government, but if it takes the government to decide that for safety reasons somethings should be done, I am not opposed.
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There is simply NO reason to do intravaginal ultrasounds before a pregnancy termination.
02/29/2012
I don't think a woman should be forced to have an ultrasound, but many times the procedure is for the benefit of the mother as well, which could be true whether or not the baby will be carried to full term.
02/29/2012
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They are talking about mandating INTRAVAGINAL ULTRASOUNDS, which most places don't even have the equipment for, as it is an outdated procedure. Also, this procedure is not only an outdated method of ultrasound (a huge, dildo like probe is inserted into the vagina, and it was used before the much more effective 4 D Ultrasound, but is now outdated technology.) They are NOT talking about abdominal ultrasound, which in most cases of termination don't even need to be done.
Originally posted by
SkylarrStarr
I don't think a woman should be forced to have an ultrasound, but many times the procedure is for the benefit of the mother as well, which could be true whether or not the baby will be carried to full term.
Even when Intravaginal Ultrasounds were used, they were only used in very early pregnancy, before the fundus of the uterus protruded over the pelvic bone. With newer regular ultrasounds, especially 4D ultrasounds, there is no need for this outdated technology. None of the OBs I know even have Intravaginal Ultrasound equipment in their offices anymore.
This procedure is invasive and can be very humiliating. Some anti-choice proponents want to force the woman to watch the entire thing on the screen.
There is simply NO reason to do intravaginal ultrasounds before a pregnancy termination
I'd also like to know, in the absence of severe abdominal pain and/or bleeding, in what cases would even abdominal ultrasounds be necessary before a termination?
02/29/2012
Having had an intravaginal ultrasound done to me several years ago when my period would not end (for 3 months), I wouldn't wish that on anyone ever again! The device is basically a giant dildo with a camera on it...
02/29/2012
Like PGel said above, "Forcing a woman to have an intravaginal ultrasound before terminating a pregnancy is only to humiliate the woman."
I totally agree with that and think that's the whole point of why they want to force this upon women. I feel like they want to humiliate women and try to make them feel so incredibly guilty and 100% worse ect. ect. by really dragging out the process to the point where the woman changes her mind. I think that they believe that they can "convert" these women into pro-life women by forcing them to look at their own ultrasounds. The government shouldn't be allowed to do that! The power of persuasion is a powerful thing but that's not the role of the government, the choice the woman has to make is ultimately a choice she has to make herself. The ultrasound would only be necessary if it has medical reason behind it in which the woman really needs to have it done for health reasons.
I totally agree with that and think that's the whole point of why they want to force this upon women. I feel like they want to humiliate women and try to make them feel so incredibly guilty and 100% worse ect. ect. by really dragging out the process to the point where the woman changes her mind. I think that they believe that they can "convert" these women into pro-life women by forcing them to look at their own ultrasounds. The government shouldn't be allowed to do that! The power of persuasion is a powerful thing but that's not the role of the government, the choice the woman has to make is ultimately a choice she has to make herself. The ultrasound would only be necessary if it has medical reason behind it in which the woman really needs to have it done for health reasons.
02/29/2012
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I agree with you, government should have no part in abortion issues and no one should be "forced" into anything they don't want to happen/do.
Originally posted by
bayosgirl
I am a firm believer that no one should be "forced" to do anything they don't want to do. As against abortion as I am PERSONALLY, I'm equally against big government and mandatory regulations for private individuals. I think the
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I am a firm believer that no one should be "forced" to do anything they don't want to do. As against abortion as I am PERSONALLY, I'm equally against big government and mandatory regulations for private individuals. I think the government should stay out of the abortion issue.
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02/29/2012
NO nobody understands this decision until it comes to making it. I know many people who have wrestled with this decision and had to make it. They always think about it. Government should not be involved in telling us what to do with our own bodies!! MY BODY MY CHOICE!!!!
02/29/2012
why... isn't it just a waste? why would they want you to
02/29/2012
NO, they need to mind their business.
02/29/2012
The government does not have the right to force such an invasive procedure onto a woman. Such a choice should only be between the individual and doctor.
A group of men deciding woman's reproductive rights is like a car mechanic that's never owned a car.
A group of men deciding woman's reproductive rights is like a car mechanic that's never owned a car.
02/29/2012
I think it's safer to have an ultrasound done before doing the actual procedure, in case any other unforeseen health problems arise.
02/29/2012
forcing somebody who is not a criminal/prisoner is in of itself, criminal.
02/29/2012