What religion do you identify yourself with?

Contributor: daniel and frances daniel and frances
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Originally posted by puffkix
I've seen quite a few polls regarding religion/spirituality and its impact on sex and sexuality, so I was wondering what sort of religious congregation we've got here.

I know there's a lot of religions out there but there's ... more
Presbyterian.
06/01/2011
Contributor: M121212 M121212
Pagan Buddhist
06/03/2011
Contributor: ichigostrawberry ichigostrawberry
Born and raised Catholic, but I just consider myself "Christian."
06/05/2011
Contributor: ss143 ss143
I cant identify with any specific religion. there are aspects that I do believe in but others that I don't so I think its hypocritical of me to devout myself to one"belief" if I don't agree with everything. So i believe in what I believe in and if that's not good enough then oh well
06/05/2011
Contributor: ToyBoy ToyBoy
I am 100% atheist who is stuck in the bible-pushing south, well during the summers
06/05/2011
Contributor: big b big b
god will bethere when you need him
06/06/2011
Contributor: cobiffle cobiffle
I dont say im anything at all
06/06/2011
Contributor: cherryredhead88 cherryredhead88
Quote:
Originally posted by puffkix
I've seen quite a few polls regarding religion/spirituality and its impact on sex and sexuality, so I was wondering what sort of religious congregation we've got here.

I know there's a lot of religions out there but there's ... more
I make my own. I won't get into it that much, but I do believe in a Higher Power.

Ok, I will get into it, lol. I believe in something called The Secret. It is basically the law of attraction, and I believe in The Universe as my higher power.

I love that book, The Secret, and I live by. It works great for me and I don't preach it to others, but I do like to talk about it just because I think it's really awesome.

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I also absolutely LOVE my tarot cards, they are spot on every single time without fail, and they always lift me up and give me hope when I need it the most.
06/14/2011
Contributor: cherryredhead88 cherryredhead88
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Originally posted by PassionQT
Was raised Catholic, dabbled in southern baptist, and found that my own spirituality works best for me. I feel as if I was brainwashed growing up, because my parents did what their forefathers did before them, and to them, that was what was ... more
Same here- the word God has such a stigma to me because I was raised strict catholic. My mom has always been open about religion but my grandparents were the type who you'd find in church every sunday, prayer 3x a day at least, and very strict about their religion.

I still don't know what will happen with my son. I want him to know that there are many different religions and beliefs, and I would let him decide what he believes in. I will tell him what I believe, but I will stay open to him.

I've seen some other things in posts around here that I identify with, as far as dabbling in different things. I like a mix of certain things- I like to read the Dhama Pada. (sp? not sure) and I like to be open to others' beliefs and practices. I have also dabbled in the wicca and pagan areas, and I love nature magick. I am with Maiden as far as the deep sense of respect for the earth, and I really feel that everything happens for a reason.


Man, I know I love my Eden when I can talk about this ! 1/3 things I NEVER talk about in public (gets too heated).
06/14/2011
Contributor: Midway through Midway through
I'm pagan.
06/14/2011
Contributor: Noira Celestia Noira Celestia
I was baptized catholic but I am now pantheistic and identify primarily with neo-paganism beliefs. I claim no religion as my own, only ideas that feel right in my heart. <3
06/20/2011
Contributor: Ivy Wilde Ivy Wilde
I was raised by devout Christians and ended up married to a Wiccan. I don't really consider myself any religion at all. However, I do believe in a very abstract sort of Higher Power that holds the universe together.
06/20/2011
Contributor: Screen Door Screen Door
I identify myself as an atheist, but as a Taoist as well.
06/22/2011
Contributor: Errant Venture Errant Venture
I am what I call an atheistic pagan. Paganism, itself, is a blanket term - indeed, Wicca could probably come under such a term, too - as there are many branches, many types, variations, from country to country, even region to region.
06/22/2011
Contributor: Gunsmoke Gunsmoke
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Originally posted by Errant Venture
I am what I call an atheistic pagan. Paganism, itself, is a blanket term - indeed, Wicca could probably come under such a term, too - as there are many branches, many types, variations, from country to country, even region to region.
Correct me if I'm wrong but Pagans and Taoists believe in various 'deities' - atheists believe there are no gods. So how can you be both?
06/22/2011
Contributor: Jaimes Jaimes
Objectivist. A=A
06/22/2011
Contributor: Darling Jen Darling Jen
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Originally posted by Gunsmoke
Correct me if I'm wrong but Pagans and Taoists believe in various 'deities' - atheists believe there are no gods. So how can you be both?
pagan - (noun) a person holding religious beliefs other than those of the main world religions

Pagan is a very fluid and non-concrete term and reminds me of "queer" where the meaning can change depending on the intent and source. And I think it's especially true when in matters of religion, gender, and sexuality. It's all one huge grey area with a plethora of possibilities.
06/22/2011
Contributor: Gunsmoke Gunsmoke
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Originally posted by Darling Jen
pagan - (noun) a person holding religious beliefs other than those of the main world religions

Pagan is a very fluid and non-concrete term and reminds me of "queer" where the meaning can change depending on the intent and source. And ... more
I agree - so how can you be atheist and pagan? Atheist believe there is NO god - NO religion?
06/23/2011
Contributor: Ms. Paprika Ms. Paprika
I identify as atheist, but respect the 1st in terms of others' beliefs.
06/23/2011
Contributor: LostBoy988 LostBoy988
I believe in certain forms of spirituality but not with any specific god or being.
06/23/2011
Contributor: Errant Venture Errant Venture
Quote:
Originally posted by Gunsmoke
Correct me if I'm wrong but Pagans and Taoists believe in various 'deities' - atheists believe there are no gods. So how can you be both?
With great difficulty .

Jen has the nub of it, but I'll expand on it a little.

Basically, I agree with the tenets that are most prevalent in the different pagan faiths (which, in actuality, don't differ all that much from mainstream religions, depending on where you look), and in that sense I am a pagan. The atheism bit comes in to play when I have a look at the mythology of it all. I live in Britain so I deal mainly with the Druidic and Heathen (Saxon and Norse) branches - However, that's a regional thing. If I were in Italy, it'd be Jupiter and his gods. In Greece, Zeus etc. In Mexico, Alom. In America, McDonalds - so I'll reference the Druidic and Heathen cultures. I look at the 'ancient' religions as ones that were influenced by what people saw around them, and then attempted to explain. Rainbows, in Norse religion, was Bifrost - the bridge from this world to the next. It is, today, known as a refraction of the sun's rays.

I am a logically minded person, so I go with the scientific explanation first - but note that that doesn't discount the possibility of it being a bridge, either. Another example - Yggdrasil, the tree of life (The world, to put it simply), and Nidhog is a wyrm (dragon type thing) that gnaws at its roots. Well, that, to me, is simply an interpretation, a guess. So I look on Yggdrasil as a metaphor for earth and our standing in it, and not as the physical, literal interpretation the ancients believed it to be.

These are just two examples, but I believe I've made my point: That some things in mythology (as a sidenote, I use the term 'mythology' when talking about mainstream religions, too) I just can't take seriously. That I feel it was merely a group of people trying to explain the world without all the facts. Or, as my girl once eruditely said, 'they made shit up as they went along'.

So let's move on to the other part that you brought up. That atheists believe there are no gods. I believe that there is a higher power, but that it's not a god as we know it. I believe that it's something that connects everything to, well, everything else. But I don't believe it has sentience, nor facets - or gods, as religion calls it -, personalisations, the Force, or whatever else people call it. Indeed, for us puny humans to try to put a face on such a thing, I feel, is quite arrogant! And, conversely, quite touching. We must feel a great loneliness, as a race, we humans, to feel so alone in this world, and in this universe, and awed by it, to want, perhaps to need, a creature, a deity, of eminence to care for us. Proof, if you will, that humanity is a sub!

Pretty sure I answered you there, but I do have a tendency to ramble, so if you need more clarification, just let me know and I'll have another attempt .
06/23/2011
Contributor: Gunsmoke Gunsmoke
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Originally posted by Errant Venture
With great difficulty .

Jen has the nub of it, but I'll expand on it a little.

Basically, I agree with the tenets that are most prevalent in the different pagan faiths (which, in actuality, don't differ all that much from ... more
No please - not more!

I still think that paganism in it's various forms is are forms of religion - like Christianity in all it's various forms.

Atheism on the other hand is defined as: "Atheism is, in a broad sense, the rejection of belief in the existence of deities." link

In general my experience is that atheists are either dismissive of or more likely hostile toward religion and the religious. Atheists generally consider themselves superior to those who 'believe in superstition'.
06/23/2011
Contributor: Darling Jen Darling Jen
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Originally posted by Gunsmoke
No please - not more!

I still think that paganism in it's various forms is are forms of religion - like Christianity in all it's various forms.

Atheism on the other hand is defined as: "Atheism is, in a broad sense, the ... more
There are belief systems that aren't actually "religions". Buddhism is a great example. It's not a "religion" insomuch as there is a entity in total control of the universe. It's a structure of beliefs that help to bridge the understanding of life and death, our world and the universe, and connections between people.

So I think atheists can still have their own belief system and a unique understanding of how they fit in the universe. Atheists don't believe in "nothing", they believe in something other than an "all-powerful god". So yes, even if they don't like the idea of deities doesn't mean they don't have some concept of universal after-death existence, karma, or souls. Beliefs can be as unique as the people who have them.

"In general my experience is that atheists are either dismissive of or more likely hostile toward religion and the religious. Atheists generally consider themselves superior to those who 'believe in superstition'."

And I don't think it's quite fair to judge a whole group based merely on the experiences you've had with some. And in their defensive, who knows what they've had to deal with in 'coming out' with their beliefs. I'm not even atheist and I get very, very defensive, offended, and irritated with Christians try to smother me with their believes and 'convert' me. They're not ok with me having my own beliefs and to get through the day I have to ignore talk of religion and just let people assume they know 'what' I am. It's discrimination for someone to assume a default and then to tell me I'm wrong for not being like them. Don't recruit!
06/23/2011
Contributor: Errant Venture Errant Venture
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Originally posted by Gunsmoke
No please - not more!

I still think that paganism in it's various forms is are forms of religion - like Christianity in all it's various forms.

Atheism on the other hand is defined as: "Atheism is, in a broad sense, the ... more
Are you sure? I can go longer!

Well, Paganism is a religion, however, I'd read a definition once that, when put up against paganism, at least in the forms I'm familiar with, it would not be a religion. Like recruitment. No one I know, who is pagan, recruits as such. If people are interested, then we tell them more, but if not, that's fine. I guess it's just one of those things that people have to go to themselves. Still, I define myself as religious (just so as we're clear).

But I do disagree with your experience. In my experience, atheists don't consider themselves superiour, nor hostile. And when I define myself as atheist, that's not what I think. I define it as simple prevalence of science over belief in an individual's mind.
06/24/2011
Contributor: Gunsmoke Gunsmoke
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Originally posted by Errant Venture
Are you sure? I can go longer!

Well, Paganism is a religion, however, I'd read a definition once that, when put up against paganism, at least in the forms I'm familiar with, it would not be a religion. Like recruitment. No one I know, ... more
Recruit is not the definition of religion - the belief in a deity is the basis of religion. The military recruit, college recruit, social clubs recruit, business solicit (recruiting customers). Recruiting is a basic behavior for social beings - that doesn't mean we like it - i.e. muting or changing channels when a commercial comes on.

I've been solicited by various religious types including Christians, Mormons, Muslims and Hindus (Hare Chrishna), etc. and like you I don't care for it - but then again I don't like watching commercials.

I am an engineer - so by definition I'm pretty scientifically oriented. However many scientists I see on TV are no more than preachers in disguise. What they are telling us is a theory and over my life time more of those theories have been proven wring than right. So to believe them is truly an act of faith. Instead of having faith in a deity, you faith in an unproven theory.

Scientists should be more direct in admitting that what they are saying is just their best guess - and there is a fairly great likelihood that future scientists will prove the theory to be wrong.

Science is the new religion - but no less flawed that tradition religion.
06/24/2011
Contributor: Errant Venture Errant Venture
There's been a bit of miscommunication, I meant to say that in one definition, one of the rules or tenets (one of three rules) is that religions recruit.

Now, I've not had much experience with scientists on TV, as I prefer to do my own reading, so I don't really know in what setting they (the preaching scientists you speak of) are, or how they're presented. Are you talking about documentaries? Or, I don't know, some sort of TV debate thing? Or scientists being brought in on news shows?

Again, that's not been my experience when meeting scientists - though to be fair, those occasions have been few - and they all have been ones to say, more or less, 'I don't know. This is just best guessing!' exactly as you say. To those, I feel, that it's not a religion.
06/25/2011
Contributor: Kinkypixie Kinkypixie
I like to refer to myself as a scientific Christian.
07/31/2011
Contributor: Beck Beck
I love that there are so many atheist! Alright, my kind of crowd!!!! I am 100% atheist I was not brought up with religion; except when my dad decided he wanted to play softball for chruch his friend went to, lasted one season. I plan on never ever allowing my children near chruch unless it is a funeral! I believe religion is pure evil! I do respect that people have their beliefs they are just not mine!
08/02/2011
Contributor: Gunsmoke Gunsmoke
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Originally posted by Beck
I love that there are so many atheist! Alright, my kind of crowd!!!! I am 100% atheist I was not brought up with religion; except when my dad decided he wanted to play softball for chruch his friend went to, lasted one season. I plan on never ever ... more
Why would you go to church for a funeral - looking for some 'pure evil'?
08/02/2011
Contributor: Darling Jen Darling Jen
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Originally posted by Gunsmoke
Why would you go to church for a funeral - looking for some 'pure evil'?
I think it's probably because she wouldn't ignore the opportunity to come together with friends and family to comfort each other during the mourning period after losing someone, religion or not. I'm not sure, of course, but it's not good to read something antagonistic into it without reason.
08/02/2011