Lactating... is a turn on? Is it possible to lactate without being pregnant? And HOW?

newfoundlust

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Originally posted by ToyGurl

My boyfriend and I were playing couple's truth or dare the other night, and we eventually put down the cards and started getting busy (the dares were HOT!). I'm quite the fanatic when it comes to nipple play, and I love having my breasts ... more

When my wife was nursing both of our girls during out love-making her breasts would sometimes let down, oh my gosh it turned me on to suckle and lick them as her milk came out. Unfortunately she never let me do it for long because she wanted to make sure there was plenty of milk for the baby. It still turns me on to think about it.

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04/27/2011

Tori Rebel

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Originally posted by ToyGurl

My boyfriend and I were playing couple's truth or dare the other night, and we eventually put down the cards and started getting busy (the dares were HOT!). I'm quite the fanatic when it comes to nipple play, and I love having my breasts ... more

I'm not sure of the exact how-to's but I know it's possible to do without having a child and without medications. I believe that using a breast pump and breast and/or nipple massage for a certain number of days will generally produce lactation but I'm not sure of the specifics. You can always google for methods on how to force lactation or wait for P'Gell (EF's resident professional lactation consultant) to come by as I'm sure she'll have lots of info. I'm not sure if doing this without having a baby is healthy or not though, so I can't really chime in on that.

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04/27/2011

P'Gell

Hi, STL, what turns people on is always interesting. My guess is if nipple play caused some fluid to leak from your breasts you have a naturally high prolactin level. This is one of the hormones which cause lactation (milk production) but there is more to it than that. Small amounts of clear or whitish yellow fluid leaking from the breast is normal. Any blood, green or black discharge needs to be reported to a doctor right away.

I would, as a Board Certified Lactation Consultant, not recommend trying to bring in a milk supply for recreational purposes. This is not a moral opinion (I don't have moral opinions about consensual sexual activities) but a medical one.

Breasts certainly CAN be induced to bring in a supply. When I work with a mother who adopting a baby, or the lesbian partner of a mother who is giving birth and wants to help out with the feedings, inducing lactation is a VERY big deal. It takes a lot of dedication, work, and most of all A HEALTHY BABY who will eventually take the milk via breast.

One cannot occasionally use a breast pump, on what we would call a "dry breast." (Meaning you aren't lactating and there is no baby waiting for the milk.) Pumping can be very painful, and if not done regularly (most women who induce lactation pump for about 20 minutes every 2 hours round the clock and even then don't always bring in a supply. Pumping dry breasts is not only painful, but can damage the breast, as milk will continue to build up in some people, and if not regularly drained (a minimum of about 6 times a day and an average of 12 times a day) infection of the milk ducts can occur, along with pain, fever, lethargy and other symptoms.

There is NO such thing as "part time lactation." It was meant for feeding babies and the body doesn't only produce milk when you want it to, it produces milk all the time and that is a serious body state that can delay or prevent menstruation and ovulation, cause mood swings, and other things. If the milk is not emptied from the breast regularly the chance of mastitis (infection of the milk ducts and the interstitial space around them) will be very high.

Also, pumping dry breasts can be very painful.

Also, it's difficult enough for some women who have just given birth to lactate, it often doesn't work if one has not given birth recently (although some adoptive and lesbian moms to succeed at it) and is a LONG TIME commitment.

Also, cheap breastpumps (anything under about $300.00 up to hospital quality pumps which rent for between $60 and $85.00 a month) can damage breast tissue, causing permanent damage. I've seen serious damage to nipples and milk ducts from cheap pumps from drug stores and Babies R Us. A $100.00 pump is probably going to do more harm than good. And without a baby to take what is eventually being made constantly, you could be in for a very difficult situation.

Honestly, breast play is fun. Lactation is best left for those who have babies and will be using the milk a dozen times a day or so, and not for recreation. This is for your health and for the health of your breasts now and for always.

There are very few medications that aid in the lactation process. There is a drug from Europe (that is not available in the USA) but it ONLY works in conjunction with a rigid pumping schedule and/or a baby at the breast. Some doctors in the USA use a similar drug available in the US (and I refuse to say what it is due to Professional Ethics) but this drug has serious side effect from diarrhea and dehydration and severe stomach cramps, to anxiety attacks and depression. It also does not work well to help lactation, especially in the absence of a good, high quality pump, a rigid pumping schedule and a baby to eventually take the milk. NO hormones will cause you to lactate.

Lactation is a serious matter, is not an easy bodily state to obtain and can cause problems if done recreationally. I'd stick with healthy breast play and leave it at that.

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04/27/2011

ToyGurl

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Originally posted by P'Gell

Hi, STL, what turns people on is always interesting. My guess is if nipple play caused some fluid to leak from your breasts you have a naturally high prolactin level. This is one of the hormones which cause lactation (milk production) but there is ... more

Hi, STL, what turns people on is always interesting. My guess is if nipple play caused some fluid to leak from your breasts you have a naturally high prolactin level. This is one of the hormones which cause lactation (milk production) but there is more to it than that. Small amounts of clear or whitish yellow fluid leaking from the breast is normal. Any blood, green or black discharge needs to be reported to a doctor right away.

I would, as a Board Certified Lactation Consultant, not recommend trying to bring in a milk supply for recreational purposes. This is not a moral opinion (I don't have moral opinions about consensual sexual activities) but a medical one.

Breasts certainly CAN be induced to bring in a supply. When I work with a mother who adopting a baby, or the lesbian partner of a mother who is giving birth and wants to help out with the feedings, inducing lactation is a VERY big deal. It takes a lot of dedication, work, and most of all A HEALTHY BABY who will eventually take the milk via breast.

One cannot occasionally use a breast pump, on what we would call a "dry breast." (Meaning you aren't lactating and there is no baby waiting for the milk.) Pumping can be very painful, and if not done regularly (most women who induce lactation pump for about 20 minutes every 2 hours round the clock and even then don't always bring in a supply. Pumping dry breasts is not only painful, but can damage the breast, as milk will continue to build up in some people, and if not regularly drained (a minimum of about 6 times a day and an average of 12 times a day) infection of the milk ducts can occur, along with pain, fever, lethargy and other symptoms.

There is NO such thing as "part time lactation." It was meant for feeding babies and the body doesn't only produce milk when you want it to, it produces milk all the time and that is a serious body state that can delay or prevent menstruation and ovulation, cause mood swings, and other things. If the milk is not emptied from the breast regularly the chance of mastitis (infection of the milk ducts and the interstitial space around them) will be very high.

Also, pumping dry breasts can be very painful.

Also, it's difficult enough for some women who have just given birth to lactate, it often doesn't work if one has not given birth recently (although some adoptive and lesbian moms to succeed at it) and is a LONG TIME commitment.

Also, cheap breastpumps (anything under about $300.00 up to hospital quality pumps which rent for between $60 and $85.00 a month) can damage breast tissue, causing permanent damage. I've seen serious damage to nipples and milk ducts from cheap pumps from drug stores and Babies R Us. A $100.00 pump is probably going to do more harm than good. And without a baby to take what is eventually being made constantly, you could be in for a very difficult situation.

Honestly, breast play is fun. Lactation is best left for those who have babies and will be using the milk a dozen times a day or so, and not for recreation. This is for your health and for the health of your breasts now and for always.

There are very few medications that aid in the lactation process. There is a drug from Europe (that is not available in the USA) but it ONLY works in conjunction with a rigid pumping schedule and/or a baby at the breast. Some doctors in the USA use a similar drug available in the US (and I refuse to say what it is due to Professional Ethics) but this drug has serious side effect from diarrhea and dehydration and severe stomach cramps, to anxiety attacks and depression. It also does not work well to help lactation, especially in the absence of a good, high quality pump, a rigid pumping schedule and a baby to eventually take the milk. NO hormones will cause you to lactate.

Lactation is a serious matter, is not an easy bodily state to obtain and can cause problems if done recreationally. I'd stick with healthy breast play and leave it at that. less

Thanks so much for the info! I just told my fiance to suck it up because I love my boobs too much to damage them lmao. He'll have to wait until we have our kids!

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04/27/2011

Rockin'

This type of play is really exciting to me, too. I don't have any professional expertise on this stuff; I just enjoy playing.

I don't use any pumps or stimulants on my breasts, but I like seeing the little bit of fluid come out, and so does my partner. I've found that the fluid production increases with stimulation. I've also found if I stimulate the whole breast and not just the nipple that the production can increase, too. I'm just talking a few drops or so.

But I've never had any come out during orgasm that I know of. I think it's awesome that it happened for you!

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04/27/2011

P'Gell

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Originally posted by ToyGurl

Thanks so much for the info! I just told my fiance to suck it up because I love my boobs too much to damage them lmao. He'll have to wait until we have our kids!

I think that's a good choice. Some women do have some fluid leakage and as long as your periods are still regular it isn't a problem. You probably have a slightly high prolactin level, which usually doesn't cause problems, unless you have irregular periods.

I've had three kids and lactated for almost 8 years total. I wish I had known more about the lactation process before I had my first baby. Luckily some women from La Leche League helped me. I loved talking to other women about breastfeeding so much and had some serious issues I overcame so I had lot to share, that I became a Lactation Consultant after my first baby.

Enjoy the breast play.

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04/28/2011

Bignuf

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Originally posted by ToyGurl

My boyfriend and I were playing couple's truth or dare the other night, and we eventually put down the cards and started getting busy (the dares were HOT!). I'm quite the fanatic when it comes to nipple play, and I love having my breasts ... more

Knew a girl once who could massage her breasts a few minutes daily for about a week, and start lacrimating for a few days. Had to be response to hormone release.

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06/14/2011

Linga

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Originally posted by ToyGurl

My boyfriend and I were playing couple's truth or dare the other night, and we eventually put down the cards and started getting busy (the dares were HOT!). I'm quite the fanatic when it comes to nipple play, and I love having my breasts ... more

Great question! I have had a lactation fetish for a long long time. I've wanted to lactate again for about 5 years now but have no idea how to go about it. I know you have to pump every few hours consistently and there are also herbs and drugs that help bring on milk.
I've decided that I will give it a go this year, I have to save for a good breast pump.

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06/14/2011

P'Gell

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Originally posted by Linga

Great question! I have had a lactation fetish for a long long time. I've wanted to lactate again for about 5 years now but have no idea how to go about it. I know you have to pump every few hours consistently and there are also herbs and drugs ... more

Linga, this is from an other thread on this discussion. I cut my response and pasted it.

Induced lactation is difficult if one already has a baby and has the dedication to use one's breasts to nourish a human being, and even in these cases, it often fails. I see about a 30-65% success rate in my Induced Lactation Clients, and these woman have a high need and desire to produce milk to keep their babies alive, and often they have much difficulty. It isn't something you "just do." Please read the entire post before even thinking about buying a breast pump. You can't get a good one for under $350.00, the $200.00 an under ones will simply cause breast damage and infections, not to mention severe pain.

From my other post:

I mean, whatever you are into. But, as a Lactation Consultant, I can tell you, if you are NOT lactating, it will hurt like hell. And not in a good way! Lactating breasts secrete a lubricant from the Glands of Montgomery (those little bumps on your aureole that look like pimples or goosebumps) and when you are not lactating, they Glands don't secrete much at all.

Also, the better quality pumps yield better results and have more consistent suction PSI and cycle times.

Cheap pumps, like the Evenflo, the Gerber, the Isis, the "Gentle Expressions" do NOTHING but cause pain, not good, sexy pain, just shitty pain. Any pump under $300.00 (with about one exception, the Medela Double Ease) is usually poor quality, can generate so much suction that they actually can cause nipple and breast damage and HURT like hell. Cheap pumps can generate, in a very inconsistent way, up to 10 times the neccesary suction, and cycle times that keep the negative pressure on the breast for TOO LONG of a time and it can cause breast damage to use these cheap ass pumps. That is why breastfeeding mothers should NEVER buy a breast pump from places like Baby's R Us, Target, KMart, Walmart etc. They carry crappy products, and the people who work there are clueless about HOW the product works, and which product is best for each woman's needs.

I need to tell you. I have certainly used breastpumps myself, while nursing my own children. I also sell and rent high quality hospital grade pumps for my clients (they are expensive, because a lot of research goes into them, the materials are medical grade, and safe and the suctions and cycles are consistent and similar to what a human infant generates.) and there is NOTHING sexy IMO about pumping your breasts. It's actually a bit of a pain in the ass. It's a chore. I've never heard a woman say she ENJOYS it.

It may be necessary if you need to be away from your baby, or your baby can't latch or is hospitalized, but most women see breast pumps as a necessary PITA. And many breastfeeding moms NEVER even need a breast pump. Many just use the baby all the time, which is ideal.

The suction on a good quality breast pump should NOT be strong, and should be very consistent (meaning the PSI are the SAME on every cycle and don't' change as the container fills with milk) in a high quality pump, babies don't generate a lot of negative pressure, and neither should a good pump. I have never felt the least bit stimulated while pumping and NEVER felt the desire to use one while not lactating, and I have at least 20 pumps in my house at all times.

Whatever floats your boat, but I wouldn't buy a cheap one. I've seen serious, deep tissue damage from poor quality pumps. This, in some cases, can actually be permanent and cause lifelong problems with your breasts and thier ducts as well as their appearance.. As the FDA refuses to control the quality of breast pumps (urged by the formula companies that they are "not medical appliances" and they ARE!) so many dangerous breast pumps are easily available.

Also, trying to pump a "dry breast" without good preparation can be painful and also harmful. If done properly, say a situation where a woman is going to adopt a baby and needs to generate a supply, or the non-pregnant woman in a lesbian relationship wants to be able to also feed the baby and needs to generate a supply, it is quite safe, but one would need to hire a lactation consultant (they run about $120.00 per visit and up in my area) do the proper preparation, obtain a high quality pump and stick to a regular schedule. I wouldn't recommend just putting a pump on non-lactating breasts, if you aren't trying to make milk for a baby for any reason.

Mileage and all that, but, please do your research. There is a hell of a lot more to it than just "buying a pump and pumping a few times a day." Done incorrectly, the breast and it's appearance, as well as it's integrity can be seriously damaged.
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06/14/2011

SexyStuff

P'Gell you are awesome! Thanks for all the great information.

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07/26/2011

Stinkytofu10

It would be an instant-turn on if I found out my GF was lactating. I think I'd drink her milk profusely

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12/20/2011

averageguyextrodinarypleasure

I think it's a turn on I want to try tasting it from the source

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12/21/2011

karay123

Get a hand-held breast pump. Keep up with it.

I read "let down" above and was reminded of how I would be going about my business in my house, with rock-hard boobs and they would just start leaking all over the place. Ahhh... motherhood.

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12/21/2011

ohmai

I like that EF has a lactation expert. Makes me think better of the site.

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12/01/2012

amenti

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Originally posted by P'Gell

Hi, STL, what turns people on is always interesting. My guess is if nipple play caused some fluid to leak from your breasts you have a naturally high prolactin level. This is one of the hormones which cause lactation (milk production) but there is ... more

Hi, STL, what turns people on is always interesting. My guess is if nipple play caused some fluid to leak from your breasts you have a naturally high prolactin level. This is one of the hormones which cause lactation (milk production) but there is more to it than that. Small amounts of clear or whitish yellow fluid leaking from the breast is normal. Any blood, green or black discharge needs to be reported to a doctor right away.

I would, as a Board Certified Lactation Consultant, not recommend trying to bring in a milk supply for recreational purposes. This is not a moral opinion (I don't have moral opinions about consensual sexual activities) but a medical one.

Breasts certainly CAN be induced to bring in a supply. When I work with a mother who adopting a baby, or the lesbian partner of a mother who is giving birth and wants to help out with the feedings, inducing lactation is a VERY big deal. It takes a lot of dedication, work, and most of all A HEALTHY BABY who will eventually take the milk via breast.

One cannot occasionally use a breast pump, on what we would call a "dry breast." (Meaning you aren't lactating and there is no baby waiting for the milk.) Pumping can be very painful, and if not done regularly (most women who induce lactation pump for about 20 minutes every 2 hours round the clock and even then don't always bring in a supply. Pumping dry breasts is not only painful, but can damage the breast, as milk will continue to build up in some people, and if not regularly drained (a minimum of about 6 times a day and an average of 12 times a day) infection of the milk ducts can occur, along with pain, fever, lethargy and other symptoms.

There is NO such thing as "part time lactation." It was meant for feeding babies and the body doesn't only produce milk when you want it to, it produces milk all the time and that is a serious body state that can delay or prevent menstruation and ovulation, cause mood swings, and other things. If the milk is not emptied from the breast regularly the chance of mastitis (infection of the milk ducts and the interstitial space around them) will be very high.

Also, pumping dry breasts can be very painful.

Also, it's difficult enough for some women who have just given birth to lactate, it often doesn't work if one has not given birth recently (although some adoptive and lesbian moms to succeed at it) and is a LONG TIME commitment.

Also, cheap breastpumps (anything under about $300.00 up to hospital quality pumps which rent for between $60 and $85.00 a month) can damage breast tissue, causing permanent damage. I've seen serious damage to nipples and milk ducts from cheap pumps from drug stores and Babies R Us. A $100.00 pump is probably going to do more harm than good. And without a baby to take what is eventually being made constantly, you could be in for a very difficult situation.

Honestly, breast play is fun. Lactation is best left for those who have babies and will be using the milk a dozen times a day or so, and not for recreation. This is for your health and for the health of your breasts now and for always.

There are very few medications that aid in the lactation process. There is a drug from Europe (that is not available in the USA) but it ONLY works in conjunction with a rigid pumping schedule and/or a baby at the breast. Some doctors in the USA use a similar drug available in the US (and I refuse to say what it is due to Professional Ethics) but this drug has serious side effect from diarrhea and dehydration and severe stomach cramps, to anxiety attacks and depression. It also does not work well to help lactation, especially in the absence of a good, high quality pump, a rigid pumping schedule and a baby to eventually take the milk. NO hormones will cause you to lactate.

Lactation is a serious matter, is not an easy bodily state to obtain and can cause problems if done recreationally. I'd stick with healthy breast play and leave it at that. less

Thank you so much for all the extreamely helpful info. I knew very little about this subject till now. I have learned quite a bit from this post. thank you

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01/24/2013

A Good Girl

When I had my youngest daughter my husband and I loved the lactation as a sexual event. Alas, I was not a good milk producer and it was difficult enough just to feed the baby. A couple of years ago we discussed trying to induce lactation again and decided that we weren't dedicated enough to the kink to put in the work. For all of the reasons P'Gell mentions and more, it will have to remain a sexy memory for us.

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02/10/2013

Getalife7

I wouldn't go there. My ex had a fetish for that and it really messed up my body image and self-esteem.
Example:
"why don't you take pills...?" "why aren't your breasts bigger...?" "if you loved me, you'd make this happen for me."
I couldn't and I was really invested in him so I ended up really hurt.

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02/22/2013

Leil@

(EdenFantasys)

I completely agree with P'Gell! The breast play is incredibly pleasant. But I think breastfeeding should be separate from breast playing when there are no babies to feed. I do not know a single woman who likes pumping breasts or taking drugs with serious side effects too. IMO, any sexual activities should be not only fun and pleasant but healthy as well.

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