#EdenTasks - Proofreading Program

Contributor: Gary Gary
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Originally posted by Kindred
Thanks for all of the clarifications Gary. By the way, welcome back to the Monday after a holiday and a prematurely released site feature. Keeping you busy enough?
Thank you! And to say that today was 'busy' would be quite an understatement.
11/29/2010
Contributor: Gary Gary
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Originally posted by Sir
Yes, of course. I only made it on one because they suggested suspension with bondage tape, which just isn't a good situation, unless you want someone breaking their skull from falling...

I feel that it should only be made on things that ... more
Exactly! Safety, or something really significant. Otherwise, edit the review and leave a COMMENT. A friendly comment with a suggestion or an observation is always acceptable.
11/29/2010
Contributor: Sir Sir
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Originally posted by Gary
Exactly! Safety, or something really significant. Otherwise, edit the review and leave a COMMENT. A friendly comment with a suggestion or an observation is always acceptable.
Alright, thank you! The comment suggestion sounds good, I need to comment more reviews with suggestions. I stopped doing that a while ago because so many people disliked having suggestions made in the comments section, but hey, I'll start leaving a few here and there.
11/29/2010
Contributor: ~LaUr3n~ ~LaUr3n~
QUESTION!

What about off site reviews? I just picked up a task for one and there are only a few sentences on the review page and then a link to their review which I cannot edit anything in. Is that all we do? Edit the info that appears directly on Eden?
11/29/2010
Contributor: ~LaUr3n~ ~LaUr3n~
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Originally posted by Sir
Alright, thank you! The comment suggestion sounds good, I need to comment more reviews with suggestions. I stopped doing that a while ago because so many people disliked having suggestions made in the comments section, but hey, I'll start leaving ... more
I've been doing this on most of them. I leave suggestions for next time and thank them for their review.
11/29/2010
Contributor: Sir Sir
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Originally posted by ~LaUr3n~
QUESTION!

What about off site reviews? I just picked up a task for one and there are only a few sentences on the review page and then a link to their review which I cannot edit anything in. Is that all we do? Edit the info that appears ... more
Yeah, I would assume so. You cannot edit their blog review, that's entirely their property.
11/29/2010
Contributor: Carrie Ann Carrie Ann
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Originally posted by ~LaUr3n~
QUESTION!

What about off site reviews? I just picked up a task for one and there are only a few sentences on the review page and then a link to their review which I cannot edit anything in. Is that all we do? Edit the info that appears ... more
For offsite reviews you cannot edit the blog but you should check that all offsite review guidelines have been met. Proper word count and linking practices are the primary ones. Offsite reviews require a minimum word count of 300 words and at least two links to EdenFantasys or its products.
11/29/2010
Contributor: Kindred Kindred
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Originally posted by Carrie Ann
For offsite reviews you cannot edit the blog but you should check that all offsite review guidelines have been met. Proper word count and linking practices are the primary ones. Offsite reviews require a minimum word count of 300 words and at least ... more
I had no idea. Thanks for that clarification.
11/29/2010
Contributor: ~LaUr3n~ ~LaUr3n~
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Originally posted by Carrie Ann
For offsite reviews you cannot edit the blog but you should check that all offsite review guidelines have been met. Proper word count and linking practices are the primary ones. Offsite reviews require a minimum word count of 300 words and at least ... more
Thanks for the prompt answer! I have only gotten one.

So we would have to copy and paste their off site review into a word processor to get the word count? Or is there another way to know if it is long enough that is directly on eden?
11/29/2010
Contributor: ~LaUr3n~ ~LaUr3n~
Also, I noticed a mistake after I submitted the review. I tried to go back into my tasks to edit that one mistake but I couldn't.

So, in this instance should we just message the person and explain how they can edit and change it themselves? Leave it alone since we all make mistakes? Write directly on their review page? Any ideas?
11/29/2010
Contributor: Emma (Girl With Fire) Emma (Girl With Fire)
I seem to have missed 126 posts on this since I read it yesterday. I have read through 3 pages of new content and I am AMAZED at how much you guys have been able to cover in a day. I am really glad this program exists and I hope to be accepted into it at some point. I am jealous of those of you who have already been accepted. Congratulations guys!
11/29/2010
Contributor: cherryredhead88 cherryredhead88
Something else I noticed as well is that in my students' submitted reviews, I have the ability to edit them as well. This is kind of annoying because how am I suppose to comment and let them know what to fix?

I guess I'll just have to deal with it, but I am soooo tempted to just fix all the grammar stuff myself. However, I feel like mentoring should be teaching them how to do it themselves!
11/29/2010
Contributor: Love Buzz Love Buzz
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Originally posted by Sir
The problem with that though is that someone asked me through a message about a review's information, asking if I had the ability to change it. If I am rated badly in the voting section because of the reviewer's information, I'm not going ... more
This is my greatest concern, editors being voted lower based on content and information rather than spelling & grammar. eg: writer has put information in the wrong place or given incorrect information. This falls outside of the editors role and they can't rectify it, but to those who don't understand the role of an editor on EF it may appear that the editor's work is poor.

By giving the privilege to vote to everyone blindly could cause a lot of low votes. An understanding and full comprehension of the editors role should be required before someone can vote. If they don't understand the role and responsibilities of the editor someone may vote lower for an editor based on the reviews quality.

I hope that the voting will be taken away as it could cause some grievances. We never voted on mentors performance (to my knowledge) so I'm hoping the voting thing will only be in place whilst testing the new system.
11/29/2010
Contributor: ToyTimeTim ToyTimeTim
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Originally posted by cherryredhead88
Something else I noticed as well is that in my students' submitted reviews, I have the ability to edit them as well. This is kind of annoying because how am I suppose to comment and let them know what to fix?

I guess I'll just have to ... more
I had one today that I just put in my comments in the sections that needed them. Then at the bottom "comments" area I told them to look for my recommendations. It was way easier than going back and forth from the review and a message.

Hope I do not have to do that very often but it works for me.
11/29/2010
Contributor: cherryredhead88 cherryredhead88
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Originally posted by ToyTimeTim
I had one today that I just put in my comments in the sections that needed them. Then at the bottom "comments" area I told them to look for my recommendations. It was way easier than going back and forth from the review and a message. ... more
Yeah that actually sounds like it could be easier than copy/pasting and then suggesting. Thanks yooper! Lol
11/30/2010
Contributor: Kayla Kayla
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Originally posted by Love Buzz
This is my greatest concern, editors being voted lower based on content and information rather than spelling & grammar. eg: writer has put information in the wrong place or given incorrect information. This falls outside of the editors role and ... more
I'm confused why the voting actually matters. I think it previously was mentioned that editor voting just...exists. It doesn't effect ranking, it doesn't effect an editor's ability, and it doesn't seem to matter much. The only thing it would do would be to notify administration if an editor is receiving a lot of "poors". And the administration would look into the editing job. (this is all my assumptions, mind you, but I have a feeling an admin wouldn't drop an editor without checking into their quality first.)

As such, the editing voting system is just there. Like a fancy toy. That doesn't really change anything.

(As a sidenote, voting on a mentor's job would be a lot more difficult than voting on an editor's would.)
11/30/2010
Contributor: P'Gell P'Gell
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Originally posted by Neuron Geek
This is just a notice that we are working on all bugs found by you.
Thank you Neuron Geek!
11/30/2010
Contributor: SexyySarah SexyySarah
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Originally posted by Kayla
I will publicly admit that I'm the one that voted the editor as poor. It had nothing to do with your review's usefulness. There are a lot of misplaced commas, lack of commas, and run-on sentences - all of which are things that MS Word will ... more
Well I guess I did not know the "rules" of the proofreading because I'm not an editor just a mentor. So, I did not know that I was to be looking for commas and run on sentences. I was looking more for "how" she was writing and the information then the "editing". I guess next time I need to pay more attention to the editing process, but like I said I did not know about the "rules" for editing before doing that. I have now gone back and read those rules and will be taking more things into account next time I "mentor" someone since I'm not only graded on being a mentor but also an editor.
11/30/2010
Contributor: Carrie Ann Carrie Ann
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Originally posted by ~LaUr3n~
Thanks for the prompt answer! I have only gotten one.

So we would have to copy and paste their off site review into a word processor to get the word count? Or is there another way to know if it is long enough that is directly on eden?
You can generally eyeball it.

300 words is pretty short.
11/30/2010
Contributor: BBW Talks Toys BBW Talks Toys
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Originally posted by Carrie Ann
You can generally eyeball it.

300 words is pretty short.
I just wrote a 720 word post, in Word, it was about 1 page and 2 paragraphs on the 2nd page, in an 11 point font.
11/30/2010
Contributor: cherryredhead88 cherryredhead88
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Originally posted by SexyySarah
Well I guess I did not know the "rules" of the proofreading because I'm not an editor just a mentor. So, I did not know that I was to be looking for commas and run on sentences. I was looking more for "how" she was writing ... more
You aren't being "graded" on editing and mentoring together, the editor's job is the grammar and the mentor's job is content. We have covered that a few times in this thread due to the confusion.

I still think the votes for editors are just stirring up trouble!
11/30/2010
Contributor: Kim! Kim!
I got to this a bit late so I am hoping that I still have a shot. I'm also hoping that my week absence won't be counted against my community participation; I was on vacation.
11/30/2010
Contributor: Jul!a Jul!a
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Originally posted by Love Buzz
This is my greatest concern, editors being voted lower based on content and information rather than spelling & grammar. eg: writer has put information in the wrong place or given incorrect information. This falls outside of the editors role and ... more
I've already seen a few cases where it looked like the editor was voted low because of the content of the review and not the grammar or such like that, which was odd to me, because on a few of those reviews the same person voted the review itself extremely useful but voted the editor as poor. Oh well I guess.

I think that if the voting does stay, it shouldn't affect the overall rating of the review like it appears that it has been. I don't know if there's much that can be done about that tho.
11/30/2010
Contributor: BBW Talks Toys BBW Talks Toys
OK. My review I submitted over the weekend on the Fleshlight just posted. Which? YAY! I love when my reviews are posted! ANYWAY, it doesn't show an editor! Now I'm more confused! Since I'm at a 5.5 did I not need to have it edited? And if it didn't, was it just a glitch that it took this long?
11/30/2010
Contributor: BBW Talks Toys BBW Talks Toys
Also, I do know that it wasn't edited because the error I found before when i couldn't edit it was still there and I corrected it. *finally* it's been driving me crazy!
11/30/2010
Contributor: BBW Talks Toys BBW Talks Toys
lastly, it never awarded me my points...
11/30/2010
Contributor: Selective Sensualist Selective Sensualist
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Originally posted by cherryredhead88
You aren't being "graded" on editing and mentoring together, the editor's job is the grammar and the mentor's job is content. We have covered that a few times in this thread due to the confusion.

I still think the votes ... more
Oh, what she was saying was that she had been unaware until today that it was now her job as a mentor to also be an editor since the editor box is popping up on mentored reviews. Unfortunately, this new editing program was accidentally launched BEFORE she, or anyone else, knew about it. Therefore, at the time she approved her student's review, she did not know that she was also expected to edit it. Yet she was graded for editing (since the editing box popped up on the review before she even knew about the program).

That illustrates another consideration: Do all mentors now also have to be editors? It seems so since the editor box is showing up on mentored reviews now. Yet not every mentor has a desire to also be an editor, as Dwtim has explained.

Interestingly enough, the converse is not true, since not all editors are mentors.
11/30/2010
Contributor: tim1724 tim1724
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Originally posted by ToyGeek
I'm not sure which of the following are actual issues, or expected changes, but I just wrote a review, and here is what I noted:

a) The review, which was a buyout assignment, did not auto-publish, despite my rank of 6.1. After reading the ... more
a) It's not clear to me whether or not auto-publishing is working, but I think it might be now. A review of mine (for Fade to Black) which I submitted yesterday was published soon after. Not immediately, but fast enough that I think it could have been automatic.

b) I agree, this is very annoying. There's always a typo that you don't notice until after you hit "Submit", or someplace where the formatting needs some help. If we can't edit the reviews immediately, then can we please have a "Preview" button, so we can check to see if our links/bold/italic formatting is ok?

c) Mine also gave me no points. Not at submission time, nor at publication time. (And yes, I checked the point history page.)
11/30/2010
Contributor: Bunnycups Bunnycups
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Originally posted by Kayla
I'm confused why the voting actually matters. I think it previously was mentioned that editor voting just...exists. It doesn't effect ranking, it doesn't effect an editor's ability, and it doesn't seem to matter much. The only ... more
Yeah the editor voting seems pretty pointless. If they were approved to become editors then they must be good enough. I have only voted extremely useful for the editors, but I probably won't vote anymore because, well, it's pointless.
11/30/2010
Contributor: cherryredhead88 cherryredhead88
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Originally posted by Selective Sensualist
Oh, what she was saying was that she had been unaware until today that it was now her job as a mentor to also be an editor since the editor box is popping up on mentored reviews. Unfortunately, this new editing program was accidentally launched ... more
Yes that is what I am gathering as well. Like I said, I think this is just starting to stir up trouble in the community because of things like this.

Especially in the case of mentors who are/were unaware of this change. I think a lot of the chaos has to do with the accidental premature release of the feature.

Can't wait for the next CEC! I am so voting against voting on editors!



I also wonder now, as mentioned somewhere above, if the mentors do need to be editing for the time being, since they are showing up as "Editors" now. I think this whole voting thing is just a type of test phase, especially if it doesn't count for anything or anyone's ranks.
11/30/2010