Flared base really necessary?

Flared base really necessary?

hornypoet69 hornypoet69
So the oft repeated wisdom is that anal toys should always have a flared base. People tell horror stories of sucking black hole anuses and embarrassing trips to the emergency room. However, not everyone knows this rule about the flared base. So not everyone follows it. I can think of at least 3 men that I know of that use toys designed for vaginal use, anally, and have had no problems, despite the lack of flared base. Most of them look at me like I'm a paranoid freak when I tell them anal toys need a flared base. It also occurs to me that it doesn't make sense that an organ designed for expelling waste, would be capable of sucking something in, and keeping it there.

So is the anal sucking vortex of doom, an urban legend? Do some people have it, and not others? Are we wasting our money buying the usually more expensive toys with flared bases? There are an awful lot of awesome vaginal toys out there, and if I could use them anally, I totally would. So what's the consensus here?
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Alan & Michele Alan & Michele
Hmm... that's sort of a loaded question, but I guess it all comes down to how much risk you're willing to take. The ass can and does produce contractions strong enough to suck an object up into it, particularly during an orgasm. And depending on how far it goes and the size/shape of the toy, there are no guarantees that it's going to come out on its own. It's definitely risky play to use toys in the butt that don't have a flared base or a set of testicles at the bottom.

On a personal experience note though, we've done it many times together, but only with certain toys and under certain circumstances.
04/27/2011
Shellz31 Shellz31
Personally, I don't go along with HAVING to use a flared based toy anally. I can understand why people recommended only using flared base, because those who aren't experienced may get themselves into trouble.

I don't really get much from just having a toy sit in my ass with no movement so I always have my hand on it anyway. So I have no fear about using a toy that's not flared!
And my ass doesn't suck toys in - it wants to push them out, so again, I'm not worried at all.

I guess it really comes down to how you're going to use the object and knowing how your ass reacts.
04/27/2011
P'Gell P'Gell
The way the human digestive system works, sometimes you can't have a bowel movement when you need to. The body then "pulls" the stool back into the rectum until you can get to a place to expel it.

This can happen with a toy, which is why there are actually TWO rules about anal toys. The one most people know is "it must have a flared base." However, there is an other, which Tristan Taraomino (I know I massacred her name) expounds on in her books; if the toy is at least 8 inches long, and the penetrator can keep an entire fist around the base of the toy, it is most likely safe for anal use.

Most things which are "sucked" into the anus are smaller things, like balls and small toys and food items. I've seen the "ass box" at ERs, and never seen a HUGE 8 inch item in there. It is usually something which was way too small to insert into the anus to start out with. A marble, a bullet, small food items, pen caps, loose change, you name it. I've never seen a full sized dildo in the "Ass Box."

I, personally, had a close call with a smaller plug, recently. I didn't realize I had outgrown the plug. The base had always been secure and worked for me. My Man was playing and suddenly, it felt too "far" in. I reached back and realized the entire FLARED BASE has slipped in. I was able to grab the circular handle of the plug, and I also had attached a small jewelry chain to the plug for an emergency. My body did NOT "pull" the plug in, it just sat there until I pulled it out.
04/27/2011
El-Jaro El-Jaro
It doesn't HAVE to have a flared base, but why risk it?
04/27/2011
alliegator alliegator
There's another thing that I believe Metris Black from Tantus mentioned in an interview, which is be careful of the slope from plug to stem, which if it is to immediate (I believe), it can hurt the sphincter.
04/27/2011
BBW Talks Toys BBW Talks Toys
I was going to say, but the amazing P'Gell beat me to it, is that if you can keep a good grip on it at all times, then I don't see the problem. The problem is that not everyone keeps their hands on their vibes/dildos at all times. If you're leaving it back there to "sit," so to speak... then a flared base is really the safest way to ensure that you don't suction it in. And yes, it can happen... usually, again like P'Gell said, it's usually something small...
04/27/2011
BBW Talks Toys BBW Talks Toys
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Originally posted by BBW Talks Toys
I was going to say, but the amazing P'Gell beat me to it, is that if you can keep a good grip on it at all times, then I don't see the problem. The problem is that not everyone keeps their hands on their vibes/dildos at all times. If ...
I would say that this is especially true with items that men use to attempt multiple orgasm, since the PC floor muscles are so engaged, the ass can suction. I've seen the way a probe moves about on Mr while we're engaged in this type of play. If it didn't have such a large ring, or if I weren't there to hold on, I could easily see it getting "lost"
04/27/2011
ToyTimeTim ToyTimeTim
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Originally posted by BBW Talks Toys
I would say that this is especially true with items that men use to attempt multiple orgasm, since the PC floor muscles are so engaged, the ass can suction. I've seen the way a probe moves about on Mr while we're engaged in this type of ...
So very true BBW.

A person, male or female, needs only to put a finger on the outer anus and flex to feel that the sphincters pull in.

If you read about how to use most 'Hands free' prostate massager's, they tell you to flex and relax the sphincter muscles to 'work' the toy in and out. Now, toys like that and say plugs, have a bulge/bump that the anus can grab onto and pull it in. A strait smooth dildo/vibe does not have some thing for the anus to grab onto thus it is harder to pull in. It should also be said that during the 'moment' those sphincter can grab onto the toy and pull like hell. I have folded the base on my Severin and almost sucked it in. Talk about kegel's of steel!

Length of the toy has a lot to do with it as well. I am 6'4" tall, as such my rectum is a bit longer than someone shorter. For me, anything over 6" long will not go all the way in with out some fancy maneuvering unless it is a soft material. I have many toys in this length and have never had any problems.

Like has been said, yes you can use toys without a base. The question that needs to be asked is, IF you lose it are you prepared to do what it takes to get it out? It should be said that not all lost toys will require a trip to the ER. If the end it rounded and it does not travel upwards to the colon, it may come out on its own. If not or you feel any pain, a trip to the ER is the safe bet.

Something else to consider. When we write reviews, while most of us know that certain toys should not be used for anal, outside customers read these review too. If one of them should read our review and think "That would feel good anally." Wouldn't we all feel bad for them if it got lost? I know I would.
04/27/2011
Volund Volund
I don't find it to be necessary if you are playing with a partner. However, if the toy was for solo play, I would most definitely want some sort of a flared base, or at least some way to recover the toy (like the string on anal beads).
04/28/2011
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