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Contributor: FieryRed FieryRed
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"Many popular erotic toys are made of polyvinyl chlorides (PVC) — plastics long decried by eco-activists for the toxins released during their manufacture and disposal — and softened with phthalates, a controversial family of chemicals. These include invitingly soft 'jelly' or 'cyberskin' items, which have grown popular in the last decade or so, says Carol Queen, Ph.D., 'staff sexologist' for the San Francisco-based adult toy boutique[removed]. 'It’s actually difficult for a store today to carry plenty of items and yet avoid PVC,' Queen says. 'Its use has gotten pretty ubiquitous among the large purveyors, because it’s cheap and easy to work with.'"

I've read several of the reviews, and the reviewers are taking the data on the product page at face value, even though it's been drilled into most of us that "jelly" = phthalates, and this thing has "Jellies" right in its name.
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Contributor: sexyscreenname sexyscreenname
There are non-phthalate plasticizers they can mix with PVC these days.
06/09/2013
Contributor: Bignuf Bignuf
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Originally posted by sexyscreenname
There are non-phthalate plasticizers they can mix with PVC these days.
True, however the whole question of which of these chemicals and their byproducts are dangerous to humans, or the end product being safe or not safe is still very confusing and poorly studied/documented.
It is like mercury fillings. Mercury is very neuro-toxic, but most of us over 30 have had mercury made into an amalgam and put in our mouths. Is it safe? It ends up with pressure from chewing, interaction with saliva, and food stuffs of all kinds and pH, and after years of study about this (I have a lot of mercury fillings), I still cannot find a good answer! That is with me knowing how to read a medical journal too. Thus, when it comes to "tissue safe toys", and peoples strong held feelings about one material over another.....it is hard to know what is really scientifically true and sound information.

Oh...and one more thing to think about. Just because someone writes something using big words and lots of techno-science talk, does not in any way mean they have a clue what they are really talking about, or worse yet, even if they do, it doesn't mean the science or studies are large scale, and valid. That's why, as a consumer of these products myself, I wish there were some good, solid science behind more of these products and their safety. It's my girlie parts at stake too!!!!
06/09/2013
Contributor: FieryRed FieryRed
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Originally posted by sexyscreenname
There are non-phthalate plasticizers they can mix with PVC these days.
Can you share what those are?
06/09/2013
Contributor: FieryRed FieryRed
Also, even the materials page here on Eden for PVC does not say anything about it being phthalate-free. In fact, none of the pages, whether for PVC, Jel-Lee, or Jelly, even mentions phthalates.
06/09/2013
Contributor: sexyscreenname sexyscreenname
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Originally posted by FieryRed
Can you share what those are?
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just a couple companies I found on google...I am sure you can find more.

edit: Just so you know. There are no health concerns with regular PVC, its just the plasticizers which are the issue.
06/09/2013
Contributor: FieryRed FieryRed
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Originally posted by sexyscreenname
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just a couple companies I found on google...I am sure you can find more.

edit: Just so you know. There are no health concerns with regular PVC, its just the plasticizers which are the issue. ... more
Thank you for the links. Yes, I'm aware that it's the softening chemicals that pose the health risk, not the PVC itself.

I just checked the Doc Johnson website, and it DOES, in fact, state that it's made from "non-phthalate material". This is awesome, despite the porous issue, and I think this should be clarified on the product page!

On the other hand, due to the strong smell, I'd still have reservations about using it without a condom/toy cover. If you can smell it, that means some sort of particles are being emitted.
06/10/2013
Contributor: FieryRed FieryRed
New information re: the above post: there are no regulations whatsoever regarding labeling of sex toys, their ingredients, and their safety. Any given toy manufacturer can call their product "silicone" or "phthalates-free" without regard to whether that's actually true.

FYI.
06/25/2013
Contributor: we sing of only blood or love we sing of only blood or love
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Originally posted by FieryRed
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From the article:

"Many popular erotic toys are made of polyvinyl chlorides (PVC) — plastics long decried by eco-activists for the toxins released during their manufacture and disposal — and softened with phthalates, a ... more
Who even cares about anything anymore.
06/25/2013
Contributor: edeneve edeneve
I have read all jelly is not bad. I can't post the sites, but the info. is from reputable companies.
06/26/2013
Contributor: emiliaa emiliaa
Jelly just screams low quality to me, and especially on EdenFantasys where you can save up points, it's worth it to spend a little more on something better. -shrug-
06/29/2013