Geisha Girl Set

Contributor: Sir Sir
I just recently ordered this for my little girl as an assignment, and it's so beautiful that I had to post a discussion about it.

How does anyone else feel about Asian-inspired lingerie or outfits? Personally, I think that the ritual of putting on a kimono is lovely, not even thinking of the silk kimono itself. The designs are just so classy. My bedroom is actually Asian-themed, with a lot of black woods, golds, and reds.
09/05/2009
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Contributor: Miss Jane Miss Jane
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Originally posted by Sir
I just recently ordered this for my little girl as an assignment, and it's so beautiful that I had to post a discussion about it.

How does anyone else feel about Asian-inspired lingerie or outfits? Personally, I think that the ritual of ... more
It's not something I'd usually think/fantasize about, but if a cute girl showed up wearing that pretty little thing I wouldn't mind.. ;p
09/05/2009
Contributor: Sir Sir
HAHA! Definitely, I know what you mean.
09/05/2009
Contributor: Avery Dragon Avery Dragon
We just got that design and a couple other kimono-style costumes in for Halloween this year, that one we put on a manican and it's really cute.
09/05/2009
Contributor: spicywife spicywife
I went to the link but I'm not sure the outfit looks that great with fishnet, although I love fishnet. I'm not sure what kind of tights (if any) would compliment it. Any ideas? It's certainly a lovely set, though I've never thought about wearing one as lingerie. It's not really something that appeals to my husband, but I do think that they are beautiful.
09/05/2009
Contributor: Sir Sir
Avery - It is really cute.

Spicywife - A plain type of stocking would look nice. I agree that those do not go well. Though my review's not published yet, I said that it does look good with the wooden sandals and two-toed socks.

Thigh-highs...let me think for a moment.

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Those two might look nice with it. Or just a plain, black pair of stockings, too.
09/05/2009
Contributor: Adriana Ravenlust Adriana Ravenlust
Asian themes really do not interest me in sex or in life.
09/05/2009
Contributor: Saraid Saraid
I don't know if I think it's sexy, but it's damn cute!
09/05/2009
Contributor: Not Here Anymore f/k/a Happy Lady Not Here Anymore f/k/a Happy Lady
I'm also fascinated by the Geisha rituals, although not in a sexual way. That robe is a really beautiful garment.
09/05/2009
Contributor: Sir Sir
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Originally posted by Not Here Anymore f/k/a Happy Lady
I'm also fascinated by the Geisha rituals, although not in a sexual way. That robe is a really beautiful garment.
I agree. For me, it isn't particularly sexual, it's just very attractive.
09/06/2009
Contributor: Backseat Boohoo Backseat Boohoo
I'm actually studying Asian literature, culture, and politics right now! LOL. Since middle school, I've been OBSESSED with geisha...so it's kind of hard for me to get turned on by fantasy geisha outfits. They just strike me as being really corny because I'm so attached to the real thing. :X But I can understand why other people like them.
09/06/2009
Contributor: deceased deceased
Atleast that is short and contemporary. Real kimonos are sexist restraints for women, no matter how beautiful or graceful, they restrict movement, and they also are markers of a woman's age, eligibility, and class status.

Geisha culture is very interesting. These are actually women with power. They spend their lives training, learning different artistic skills like musical instruments, dancing, conversation on a more intellectual level, and are not "prostitutes". They are vanguards of culture from the past. Most of the Geishas in Japan today are not authentic, it was a lifestyle. They were replaced my modern night club type hostesses wearing traditional costumes.

I find it odd that as soon as white military guys get to Hawaii they look for an Asian girlfriend believing them to be submissive. Nothing could be further from the truth, as they soon find out.
09/06/2009
Contributor: Backseat Boohoo Backseat Boohoo
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Originally posted by deceased
Atleast that is short and contemporary. Real kimonos are sexist restraints for women, no matter how beautiful or graceful, they restrict movement, and they also are markers of a woman's age, eligibility, and class status.

Geisha culture ... more
I dunno, a geisha would probably argue that her kimono are easy to move around in once she gets past the initial stages of maiko-dom, since she's trained to move in them. And house wives certainly didn't wear all of the fancy trappings that maiko and geisha wore; back when kimono were every-day wear, they just flung them on and went about their business. I think it's the shoes that are the real bitch for maiko; those 6-inch wedges hurt me just looking at them!

There are real geisha in Japan today--they go through the training, turning their collar, etcetera, with the notable exception of Tokyo geisha--but Westernization, the redistribution of feudal money, and the invention of the much cheaper bar hostess has cut down on their numbers drastically. Most people who DO go to tea houses don't want geisha, anyway; they want maiko because of their doll-like appearance. That's why modern geisha often hold "primary" job. It's a shame, really, but I suppose that changing times mean a change in entertainment. :/

One of the major downsides IS that loss of power concept. The world of geisha really is a woman-dominated world, where men have no purpose except to dress the geisha (if the dresser was a man), sell them products, or give them money. On the other hand, one could argue that Japanese women have way more power than they did pre-WWII, although they are still far from receiving equal treatment.

And yeah, the notion of the "subservient" Asian woman is kind of hysterical. Maybe a woman would be subservient to her same-race husband while they lived in their village, because there are dozens, hundreds, maybe even thousands of people around them making sure they "save face," but I have a hard time imagining an Asian woman marrying a white man without the expectation that those pressures would be relieved from her. I mean, traditionally, a Japanese woman controls the money and gives her husband an "allowance," a thought that has to make a misogynist's stomach churn.
09/06/2009
Contributor: Sir Sir
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Originally posted by Backseat Boohoo
I'm actually studying Asian literature, culture, and politics right now! LOL. Since middle school, I've been OBSESSED with geisha...so it's kind of hard for me to get turned on by fantasy geisha outfits. They just strike me as being ... more
Yes, I'm more attracted to the real thing too. Someday I'll get my little girl a real, full kimono.
09/06/2009
Contributor: Miss Cinnamon Miss Cinnamon
Being an Asian-American kinda puts me in a weird spot. I feel like I should be against Asian-inspired lingerie because it's not "politically correct" and insinuates that Asian dress is "exotic" and therefore sexy. Kimonos and Chinese dresses (Qipao) are traditional garb, and I'm not sure there should be that association with sensuality. Nonetheless, I DO find those styles sexy when translated into lingerie with higher slits and shorter skirts. My boyfriend's a pretty big fan of my dressing up in traditional clothes, and it makes me feel cherished and appreciated, not degraded.

So I guess my take on it is that yes, like most costumey lingerie, the geisha dress/qipao-inspired pieces are a little hokey, but still sexy. My favorites, though, are the pieces with obvious Asian tones without being costumes, like Dreamgirl's Shanghai Sweetie series (link). I'm also a big fan of seeing Asian brocades in corsets.
09/06/2009
Contributor: Alan & Michele Alan & Michele
The Asian outfits like that always strike me as being very demure and classy. I think it's the luxury of the silky materials that add the sensual element for bedroom wear.
09/06/2009
Contributor: Backseat Boohoo Backseat Boohoo
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Originally posted by Miss Cinnamon
Being an Asian-American kinda puts me in a weird spot. I feel like I should be against Asian-inspired lingerie because it's not "politically correct" and insinuates that Asian dress is "exotic" and therefore sexy. Kimonos and ... more
Yeah, I should probably be more offended by all of the "French" maid costumes and the stylized Lederhosen lingerie, but I try to take in to account the fact that all lingerie is just meant to fulfill a fantasy role, and I think I'm more offended that there aren't any Welsh-inspired costumes.
09/06/2009
Contributor: Backseat Boohoo Backseat Boohoo
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Originally posted by Sir
Yes, I'm more attracted to the real thing too. Someday I'll get my little girl a real, full kimono.
I'm not "attracted" to it at all. Like I said, I get why people enjoy Asian-inspired costumes, or ethnic costumes in general, but they don't do anything for me. I just prefer to look at the real thing because it's prettier.
09/06/2009
Contributor: AU AU
Ohoho! I really like Asian traditional and modern traditional clothing, but my area is kimono. I have a lot of thoughts on the matter, but I'll try to not get too excited!

I've been a kimono enthusiast for almost half of my life. I don't have a great collection, but I read about them and "kimono lifestyles" (it can be considered a hobby!) frequently. So I look at things a little differently than most Westerners.

When I see Asian-inspired costumes and lingerie, sometimes it hurts my eyes. Usually it's a little cheesy to me. Often, what makes the real garments wonderful to me are completely absent (or there is something weird going on--right over left is for burial!). I sometimes have a hard time finding them very pretty or classy, but sometimes I can find them very cute. I have a few Chinese style tops that, if worn with something classy can be classy, but I try to avoid shiny brocades. I also have a Chinese-style top that I believe to be based on Chinese-style bras. It's shiny brocade, looks appropriate for club wear and it makes me feel sexy. It's pretty revealing. So no, I'm not really against these creative garments, but I dislike a lot of it. I like more traditional things most.

Kimono sometimes are thought of as sexy. Maybe it's because of Westerners' WWII experiences with working girls? The same guys that probably brought to us the mispronunciation of saké, thanks. :/

A little peek into the way a kimono enthusiasts see actual kimono...

There is a whole little world one can appreciate with kimono. Kimono has a somewhat complex language and methods that I find very interesting.

The "correct" way of wearing modern kimono might be kind of prim or even cold in some eyes. The shape of the body in kimono often de-emphasizes things that in the West (and in modern Japan) are considered sexy. Under a kimono, padding is worn to hide curves--Breasts and waists disappear. The layers are tied in place. It is understandably compared to bondage--which might be sexy to some and to others, offensive. But that's especially to be said of modern kimono. There was a time when they had to be lived in, and could be sloppy, tied for work convenience. It's interesting comparing new photos of people in kimono to photos of people in them 100 years ago.

Kimono are usually worn in a way that makes women into a severe tube. Or the very informal cotton version for summer can show a little curve--depending on how much neatening padding is worn. Geisha, I believe, often wear the kimono everyone else does, the language different from "civilian" kimono. They often add a few more pounds of clothing (I think I've read of a 40 lbs formal ensemble), so that you can see little of their actual shape. They almost always wear their collars very low--nearly to their back. This is considered very sexy. Other women may this, too, but to a far lesser degree. When I wear kimono, I usually show a little more nape than is "proper". It's like showing cleavage, but reversed.

Yukata. They can be worn with things that make them more formal like kimono, but often they are thrown on with little underneath for a festival and as I said, without padding, can show curves. I wear a little underneath to make mine neat, but my significant other knows about the holes under the arms that make breasts accessible... So I try not to wear too much if I think he might get an opportunity to touch. Hehe.

OK, I should stop for now, I got too excited. I'm sorry! But that is a little on how kimono are not sexy/sexy in my eyes.
07/26/2010
Contributor: Avant-garde Avant-garde
I like the outfit. I find Asain culture to be quite interesting.
07/26/2010
Contributor: PassionQT PassionQT
It is beautiful! Awww, and out of stock!
07/26/2010
Contributor: Midway through Midway through
I love asian themed things, but I'm not a fan of that particular geisha costume. It doesn't appeal to me that much. However, if EF started carrying a bunch of asian style things, such as romance/sensual kits and lingerie and costumes and the like, I would definitely be interested.
07/26/2010
Contributor: Sir Sir
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Originally posted by PassionQT
It is beautiful! Awww, and out of stock!
Yeah, I think that it's been discontinued..
07/26/2010
Contributor: ToyTimeTim ToyTimeTim
I would love to see my wife in this. Really sexy, and I love the colors.
07/26/2010