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Contributor: Kaijah Kaijah
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So, while looking through highly rated water based lubes, I came across Liquid Silk. Aside from the bitter taste, no one seems to have any complaints.

However, I noticed that the fourth ingredient is Dimethicone - and I was wondering what everyone's experience with this and silicone sex toys was? Is the silicone in Liquid Silk a small enough portion that it has no effect on toys, or is it generally not recommended for that type of play?

Or does the bonding potential of silicone lubes have more to do with the type/quality of silicone than anything else?
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Contributor: J's Alley J's Alley
That's a really good question because Dimethicone is a silicone.

Basically it should be ok to use as long as the toy is made of medical grade silicone. There should, in theory, be no reaction. I, personally, wouldn't want to test that out on my own toys though. You can do a patch test on a small part of the toy. The reaction should be immediate if there is going to be one.

Anyone else know about this?
09/06/2009
Contributor: Carrie Ann Carrie Ann
I have had liquid silk react to a silicone toy. Which sucks because I love it.
09/06/2009
Contributor: Red Red
do a patch test. I use liquid silk with my toys but that's my choice. You are correct in your thinking: Dimethicone will f*ck with your silicone toys.
09/07/2009
Contributor: Luscious Lily Luscious Lily
I tested Liquid Silk on some of my Tantus toys, and there was no reaction. I haven't tried it on their O2 material, or on any other company's silicone, so I can't speak for those. So, Liquid Silk seems to be safe with Tantus toys, but still, do a spot test (bases are a nice, inconspicuous place to use) on EVERY toy before using them with Liquid silk, even if they're from a brand that has always played nicely with the lube in the past.
09/07/2009
Contributor: J's Alley J's Alley
Tantus toys shouldn't react to that chemical as long as there are no additives because they are made from medical grade platinum silicone.

As far as other toys, I would test them. I used my Jo Warming with so affects, but I will probably set that aside and get something else for silicone just for safety sake (now that I really looked at the ingredients). This may be something you want to add into a review, since it is water based and still reacts to silicone and all.
09/07/2009
Contributor: Kaijah Kaijah
Thanks for the responses everyone. I'm not sure I'd want to risk an expensive toy with it, rather than choose a different lube since there's been a few problematic instances. @.@
Patch testing is a great idea! Assuage the paranoia with as little damage as possible.
09/07/2009
Contributor: Femme Mystique Femme Mystique
I've never had Liquid Silk react with any of my silicone toys.
09/07/2009
Contributor: Lynk Lynk
We have used Liquid Silk with the O2 Revolution by Tantus and had no problem. Although it does kind of freak me out now, because I had no idea that there was any sort of silicone in Liquid Silk. I have always been told that it is a water based lubricant that is safe to use with silicone toys. In fact, the Liquid Silk I bought, I purchased from a sex shop that sells ONLY silicone toys. I wouldn't think that they would stock something that would react badly with the toys they sell. Especially considering that they do not sell a wide variety of lubes to begin with and tend to carry more top of the line products.

So, I'm kind of disturbed right now. Has anyone used it with the Tex Vixskin? Any experiences with that?

02/01/2010
Contributor: Luscious Lily Luscious Lily
Quote:
Originally posted by J's Alley
Tantus toys shouldn't react to that chemical as long as there are no additives because they are made from medical grade platinum silicone.

As far as other toys, I would test them. I used my Jo Warming with so affects, but I will probably ... more
The first bit of what you're saying is unclear. Are you saying if there are no additives in the toy, or the lube? If you're referring to the Tantus toys, it's not quite correct. Even high quality medical grade platinum silicone can bond with low quality silicone lubricants. The way Metis explained it was that high quality silicone toy + high quality silicone lube is fine, but if either one isn't of the highest quality, you start to risk bonding. Even Tantus toys can be mucked up by a cheap silicone lube.

Geek moment for those who are interested:
It's not really a matter of "reacting", because silicone is inert. When silicone lube ruins a silicone toy, it's bonding to the toy, almost dissolving into it. When both are very high quality, they keep to themselves and are very stable. From what I was told, lower quality silicones aren't as stable, so are more prone to bonding to other silicone.
02/01/2010
Contributor: kcordie kcordie
i didn't even think of this! thanks for the heads up
08/26/2010
Contributor: ~LaUr3n~ ~LaUr3n~
Quote:
Originally posted by Carrie Ann
I have had liquid silk react to a silicone toy. Which sucks because I love it.
Wow good to know!
11/09/2010
Contributor: Lolita Slut Lolita Slut
Quote:
Originally posted by Carrie Ann
I have had liquid silk react to a silicone toy. Which sucks because I love it.
That's really interesting, because a lot of reviews I've read swear up and down that the amount of silicone in Liquid Silk isn't enough to react with most toys.

I'm really sorry you lost your toy, that's just terrible!
11/12/2010
Contributor: fghjkl fghjkl
Wow... This stuff is all good to know. I have a bottle on the way and had no idea...
12/06/2010
Contributor: ScottA ScottA
Test with a few drops on the base. Some toys react with silicone lubes, some don't - and the good news is that it's the lube bonding to the toy and not the toy melting (in other words the damage won't grow or melt the whole toy).
12/06/2010
Contributor: Illusional Illusional
I should test my toys
01/24/2011
Contributor: GoodMorningSunshine GoodMorningSunshine
Wow, I had no clue about any of this... I'm keeping this stuff in mind for sure
02/03/2011
Contributor: KaraSutra KaraSutra
Quote:
Originally posted by J's Alley
That's a really good question because Dimethicone is a silicone.

Basically it should be ok to use as long as the toy is made of medical grade silicone. There should, in theory, be no reaction. I, personally, wouldn't want to test ... more
I had it react with one of my silicone dildos as well A very sad moment since it was one of the first lubes I loved!
02/18/2011
Contributor: kophelia kophelia
Personally I've never had any problem with liquid silk reacting to a silicone toy, and I've used them together for years. Most of my silicone toys are VixSkin, but not all. I've seen no reaction at all--but I certainly can't say that it wouldn't.
03/21/2011
Contributor: LinkR LinkR
thanks for the review! really helpful
04/26/2011
Contributor: Linniebro Linniebro
Quote:
Originally posted by Kaijah
So, while looking through highly rated water based lubes, I came across Liquid Silk. Aside from the bitter taste, no one seems to have any complaints.

However, I noticed that the fourth ingredient is Dimethicone - and I was wondering what ... more
I am a nurse and to answer you question about Dimethicone. It is an extremely soft lotion used for damaged skin. Although I have never used as sexual lubricant, the thought of it is intriguing and u think would work wonders in it's on so to be combined with other lubes would work fantastic!
06/12/2011
Contributor: cherryredhead88 cherryredhead88
Quote:
Originally posted by Kaijah
So, while looking through highly rated water based lubes, I came across Liquid Silk. Aside from the bitter taste, no one seems to have any complaints.

However, I noticed that the fourth ingredient is Dimethicone - and I was wondering what ... more
I'm curious as to why this is labeled as water based on the product page if there is a chance of it ruining silicone toys. I use it on my silicone toys, but I didn't know it was a hybrid because the product page and the bottle say water based.

I didn't know Dimethicone was a silicone until Corabell told me, I'm sure I'm not the only one!
06/17/2011
Contributor: Pixie5 Pixie5
Quote:
Originally posted by Carrie Ann
I have had liquid silk react to a silicone toy. Which sucks because I love it.
What toy? Did it do it instantly or did it take awhile? I have a G-Ki and have always used it on it. Should I stop?
07/13/2011
Contributor: AndromedaJane AndromedaJane
Quote:
Originally posted by Carrie Ann
I have had liquid silk react to a silicone toy. Which sucks because I love it.
Oh no! I was just about to choose this lube. Back to the search. Thanks for the info.
10/24/2011
Contributor: Lucky21 Lucky21
I haven't tried Liquid Silk, but I have tried the Sliquid Organics Silk with our Vixskin toys and no problem there.
10/24/2011
Contributor: Girly Girl Girly Girl
i haven´t try but i think it can be use with some toys ,, just have to know a little more about which kind of toys
10/24/2011
Contributor: haha haha
Quote:
Originally posted by Kaijah
So, while looking through highly rated water based lubes, I came across Liquid Silk. Aside from the bitter taste, no one seems to have any complaints.

However, I noticed that the fourth ingredient is Dimethicone - and I was wondering what ... more
I was told by the knowledgeable owner of a local sex shop that there is not enough silicone to damage a high-quality toy. I have had no problem with it on my 100% silicone sportsheets or dils-for-does dildos.
11/15/2011
Contributor: biancajames biancajames
Quote:
Originally posted by J's Alley
That's a really good question because Dimethicone is a silicone.

Basically it should be ok to use as long as the toy is made of medical grade silicone. There should, in theory, be no reaction. I, personally, wouldn't want to test ... more
I haven't had any problems, thusfar.
01/01/2012
Contributor: Silverdrop Silverdrop
I've never had a reaction with Liquid Silk and any of my toys. I really should patch-test though. I knew it was a hybrid lube.

According to what I've read, if the silicone in the lube is going to bond to the silicone in the toy, it will happen immediately. Is this what happened with yours, Carrie Ann?
01/02/2012
Contributor: QSBybakd QSBybakd
I'm concerned with this myself. I didn't know until recently that it contained silicone, but hopefully it won't be a problem. High quality silicone is safe, right?

Anyone used this with a Jopen toy?
01/23/2012