I had to point out this post from SexIs this morning since most of us who are active here are also reviewers - and, finally, we've got a bit of info on the ingredients in lubes! Woot!
Lube Ingredients
07/13/2009
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I really loved that article, and I think I'll bookmark it or something so I can use it as a reference in the future. As someone with chemistry experience, I like that the author included the real nomenclature for the ingredients. Very nice.
07/13/2009
I have not read the whole article yet, but I read enough to want to make one comment. Saying something may be safe to use as a lube because it is found in cosmetics makes me question the statements in the rest of the article. Read the ingredients in an average cosmetic product and research those items and you'll see what I mean. I, for one, don't want formaldehyde, for example, in my system--isn't that one of the ingredients in embalming fluid, for crying out loud? And considering the number of unsafe drugs that the FDA lets loose on the public, their approval means very little to me.
I use lube and will continue to do so, but I won't make my choices based on whether the ingredients may be found in cosmetics or whether the FDA gives it a thumbs-up.
I use lube and will continue to do so, but I won't make my choices based on whether the ingredients may be found in cosmetics or whether the FDA gives it a thumbs-up.
07/13/2009
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Very true and a very good point.
Originally posted by
Raven
I have not read the whole article yet, but I read enough to want to make one comment. Saying something may be safe to use as a lube because it is found in cosmetics makes me question the statements in the rest of the article. Read the ingredients
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I have not read the whole article yet, but I read enough to want to make one comment. Saying something may be safe to use as a lube because it is found in cosmetics makes me question the statements in the rest of the article. Read the ingredients in an average cosmetic product and research those items and you'll see what I mean. I, for one, don't want formaldehyde, for example, in my system--isn't that one of the ingredients in embalming fluid, for crying out loud? And considering the number of unsafe drugs that the FDA lets loose on the public, their approval means very little to me.
I use lube and will continue to do so, but I won't make my choices based on whether the ingredients may be found in cosmetics or whether the FDA gives it a thumbs-up. less
I use lube and will continue to do so, but I won't make my choices based on whether the ingredients may be found in cosmetics or whether the FDA gives it a thumbs-up. less
07/13/2009
She did a good job. I am a chemist and I cover lube ingredients in depth when I do lube reviews, and I agree with her take on things
@merinus When something is "ok'd" for cosmetic use, there is actually a level of tested oral consumption that is taken into account. However, as you probably suspect, this is not the same as being "food safe". I have reservations, like you do, over any lube ingredient that is simply cosmetic safe, and not food safe.
@merinus When something is "ok'd" for cosmetic use, there is actually a level of tested oral consumption that is taken into account. However, as you probably suspect, this is not the same as being "food safe". I have reservations, like you do, over any lube ingredient that is simply cosmetic safe, and not food safe.
07/13/2009
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I LOVE your lube reviews, Red. I genuinely get excited when I see you've done another on your blog because I know it'll be filled with all the good facts.
Originally posted by
Red
She did a good job. I am a chemist and I cover lube ingredients in depth when I do lube reviews, and I agree with her take on things
@merinus When something is "ok'd" for cosmetic use, there is actually a level of tested oral ... more
@merinus When something is "ok'd" for cosmetic use, there is actually a level of tested oral ... more
She did a good job. I am a chemist and I cover lube ingredients in depth when I do lube reviews, and I agree with her take on things
@merinus When something is "ok'd" for cosmetic use, there is actually a level of tested oral consumption that is taken into account. However, as you probably suspect, this is not the same as being "food safe". I have reservations, like you do, over any lube ingredient that is simply cosmetic safe, and not food safe. less
@merinus When something is "ok'd" for cosmetic use, there is actually a level of tested oral consumption that is taken into account. However, as you probably suspect, this is not the same as being "food safe". I have reservations, like you do, over any lube ingredient that is simply cosmetic safe, and not food safe. less
07/13/2009
What an excellent article!
All I can say is, I envy all of you who can use commercial lubes. We've tried 6 so far, and every one has caused either an dermatitis/allergic reaction, or a yeast infection. I've tried to keep a log of whatever ingredients they all have in common, but it's still hard to narrow it down to which ones to avoid. The only thing we know for certain so far is... methylparaben is evil .
All I can say is, I envy all of you who can use commercial lubes. We've tried 6 so far, and every one has caused either an dermatitis/allergic reaction, or a yeast infection. I've tried to keep a log of whatever ingredients they all have in common, but it's still hard to narrow it down to which ones to avoid. The only thing we know for certain so far is... methylparaben is evil .
07/13/2009
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I can't even imagine having to go through that.
Originally posted by
Alan & Michele
What an excellent article!
All I can say is, I envy all of you who can use commercial lubes. We've tried 6 so far, and every one has caused either an dermatitis/allergic reaction, or a yeast infection. I've tried to keep a log of whatever ... more
All I can say is, I envy all of you who can use commercial lubes. We've tried 6 so far, and every one has caused either an dermatitis/allergic reaction, or a yeast infection. I've tried to keep a log of whatever ... more
What an excellent article!
All I can say is, I envy all of you who can use commercial lubes. We've tried 6 so far, and every one has caused either an dermatitis/allergic reaction, or a yeast infection. I've tried to keep a log of whatever ingredients they all have in common, but it's still hard to narrow it down to which ones to avoid. The only thing we know for certain so far is... methylparaben is evil . less
All I can say is, I envy all of you who can use commercial lubes. We've tried 6 so far, and every one has caused either an dermatitis/allergic reaction, or a yeast infection. I've tried to keep a log of whatever ingredients they all have in common, but it's still hard to narrow it down to which ones to avoid. The only thing we know for certain so far is... methylparaben is evil . less
07/14/2009
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We've had similar problems, so I feel your pain. From our experimenting, I can give you some ideas to test with your next lubes.
Originally posted by
Alan & Michele
What an excellent article!
All I can say is, I envy all of you who can use commercial lubes. We've tried 6 so far, and every one has caused either an dermatitis/allergic reaction, or a yeast infection. I've tried to keep a log of whatever ... more
All I can say is, I envy all of you who can use commercial lubes. We've tried 6 so far, and every one has caused either an dermatitis/allergic reaction, or a yeast infection. I've tried to keep a log of whatever ... more
What an excellent article!
All I can say is, I envy all of you who can use commercial lubes. We've tried 6 so far, and every one has caused either an dermatitis/allergic reaction, or a yeast infection. I've tried to keep a log of whatever ingredients they all have in common, but it's still hard to narrow it down to which ones to avoid. The only thing we know for certain so far is... methylparaben is evil . less
All I can say is, I envy all of you who can use commercial lubes. We've tried 6 so far, and every one has caused either an dermatitis/allergic reaction, or a yeast infection. I've tried to keep a log of whatever ingredients they all have in common, but it's still hard to narrow it down to which ones to avoid. The only thing we know for certain so far is... methylparaben is evil . less
-If you can't deal with methylparaben, avoid ALL parabens.
-Glycerin is the most common culprit for lubes contributing to yeast infections. Also, some flavored lubes contain sugar, so avoid those.
-You may also want to try avoiding warming/cooling/tingli ng lubes, because the chemicals they use to get these effects, while harmless to most, can be irritating to those sensitive to them.
Good luck! Trying to find a lube you don't react to is no fun, but it's worth it when you find one that works.
07/14/2009
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Aw you make me blush I would do more, but I have SO MUCH LUBE to get through first
Originally posted by
Carrie Ann
I LOVE your lube reviews, Red. I genuinely get excited when I see you've done another on your blog because I know it'll be filled with all the good facts.
07/14/2009
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Hey yeah, what @Lily said exactly. Parabens will potentially cause trouble, as will some other preservatives like DMDM hydantonin. Just look at the last few ingredients the lubes, those are the preservatives and cosmetic preservatives are often irritating to "some", and I believe that is especially true on thin genital skin.
Originally posted by
Alan & Michele
What an excellent article!
All I can say is, I envy all of you who can use commercial lubes. We've tried 6 so far, and every one has caused either an dermatitis/allergic reaction, or a yeast infection. I've tried to keep a log of whatever ... more
All I can say is, I envy all of you who can use commercial lubes. We've tried 6 so far, and every one has caused either an dermatitis/allergic reaction, or a yeast infection. I've tried to keep a log of whatever ... more
What an excellent article!
All I can say is, I envy all of you who can use commercial lubes. We've tried 6 so far, and every one has caused either an dermatitis/allergic reaction, or a yeast infection. I've tried to keep a log of whatever ingredients they all have in common, but it's still hard to narrow it down to which ones to avoid. The only thing we know for certain so far is... methylparaben is evil . less
All I can say is, I envy all of you who can use commercial lubes. We've tried 6 so far, and every one has caused either an dermatitis/allergic reaction, or a yeast infection. I've tried to keep a log of whatever ingredients they all have in common, but it's still hard to narrow it down to which ones to avoid. The only thing we know for certain so far is... methylparaben is evil . less
ANYWAYS!
Check out Yes Lube, it is amazing, hypoallergenic, organic, yada yada
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I was also very very taken with Swede Aqua Lube, available here at EF. Again, it's hyopallergenic, pH balanced, yada yada
07/14/2009
Thank you for the info and suggestions! I really appreciate it, because this is getting frustrating (not to mention expensive!). We use coconut oil right now, because it's got one ingredient that so far seems ok, but I don't want to use it too often and there are some toys we that can't figure out if it's compatible with or not. We even went as far as to try to contact all the manufacturers (of the toys we have), and while most of them can immediately tell you whether or not to use petroleum oil based lubes, all but two had no idea if you could use organic oils with their products or not. That means we're constantly buying condoms to cover too many toys right now which wouldn't normally need one. I'll definitely be trying the Yes lube and Swede Aqua as soon as the piggy bank refreshes.
Thanks again
Michele
Thanks again
Michele
07/14/2009
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Being a chemist may help explain why I love your lube reviews and have bought or not bought based on what you said. I need to check out the Swede Aqua Lube, since I have problems with some I have used to date.
Originally posted by
Red
She did a good job. I am a chemist and I cover lube ingredients in depth when I do lube reviews, and I agree with her take on things
@merinus When something is "ok'd" for cosmetic use, there is actually a level of tested oral ... more
@merinus When something is "ok'd" for cosmetic use, there is actually a level of tested oral ... more
She did a good job. I am a chemist and I cover lube ingredients in depth when I do lube reviews, and I agree with her take on things
@merinus When something is "ok'd" for cosmetic use, there is actually a level of tested oral consumption that is taken into account. However, as you probably suspect, this is not the same as being "food safe". I have reservations, like you do, over any lube ingredient that is simply cosmetic safe, and not food safe. less
@merinus When something is "ok'd" for cosmetic use, there is actually a level of tested oral consumption that is taken into account. However, as you probably suspect, this is not the same as being "food safe". I have reservations, like you do, over any lube ingredient that is simply cosmetic safe, and not food safe. less
I agree with your last statement very much. Since chemicals from cosmetics can and do become absorbed into the pores and then make their way into one's system, being "cosmetic safe" doesn't mean a whole heck of a lot, IMHO. And again the FDA's approval means little, since they are the same guys who approve prescription drugs that kill tens of thousands each year, when taken properly (according to JAMA), allow irradiating of our foods, etc.
I have been a long time practitioner of holistic health and have made it a part of my career, and I know that one of the first things you're told to do when you become ill is to eliminate all the cosmetics, body lotions, soaps, or anything else that can seep into the pores that's not organic in an effort to help our immune systems function properly.
07/14/2009
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