What's the deal with distance between vagina and clitoris?

Contributor: P'Gell P'Gell
Reading one of Beck's reviews resparked my interest in this... activity? Idea? Theory?

The distance between vagina and clitoris has, for many years, been a subject of debate on "who" can have orgasms during PIV, who can't and, at least in the late Victorian times, people using the word "frigid" for women who couldn't have an orgasm by PIV alone (and only about 20% or less of women can.) Since then, the word "frigid" has been re-purposed (thank heavens) to a still not very nice term, used by some, for women (only women ) who don't have sexual drive.

Anyway, in the Victorian Age, Princess Marie Bonaparte, a friend of Freud (who scared millions of women into thinking they were "frigid" because HE obviously was too lazy to do anything other than PIV to try to get a woman to come! Hey, Siggy, try some oral sex, ya sexist pig!) Princess Bonaparte (yes, from that Bonaparte family) actually had her Yoni surgically altered at least twice, as her distance was more than 25 mm, to try to have the elusive "vaginal orgasm." (I in no way think my good buddy Beck supports Princess Bonaparte's ideas or actions.)

Here's Princess Bonaparte's bio.

So, aside from trying to figure out what rabbit will work for you, what do we know, in the post modern world, about vaginal/clitoral distance?

I'm not even sure how to measure it. (One thing I did NOT learn in nursing training.) I used a tape measure, and got 22 mms from what I think was the mid portion of my vagina, and closer to 18 or 19 mms from the edge of my vagina to my clit. In most old literature this should be "close enough" to have "vaginal orgasms" or orgams during PIV. I have them, but only after a good clitoral climax, or an even better blended orgasm. I don't have them spontaneously from only PIV without significant clitoral stimulation. I think this is the average woman's experience. If you can have orgasms from PIV alone, do you have a short V to C distance? How short? Or is it something completely unrelated?

Have you ever measured your "distance?" Does it make a difference in the ability to have PIV orgasms? I didn't even realize until this morning that mine were so close together. According to the older literature, I should be having orgasms left, right and center, with intercourse alone. Not usually the case.

So, what do you think, ladies? Or, gentlemen, if your ladies (if you have sex with ladies) will allow the intrusion, what kind of "distances" are you getting?

Also, do you measure from the middle of your vagina, or from the very closest edge? I'm confused.

04/21/2012
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Contributor: underHim underHim
I would measure from the edge of the vagina, think that is closer to the G spot is and that would be more determinate in this discussion. From what I have heard if a womans clit is farther away from her vagina that the distance from her tip of her thumb to the first knuckle it can be more difficult to have a PIV orgasm. Mine is almost the distance of my whole thumb from my vaginal opening. I do find it hard to orgasm sometimes with PIV but it all depends on the angle. I find it easier when I am riding on top of him after I am warmed up a little.
04/21/2012
Contributor: Tuesday Tuesday
In one study I read they measured from the urethra to the clit because it's easy to know where the center of the urethra is and the urethra is right next to the vagina. For me, this distance is just over an inch. I have a difficult time climaxing just from PIV. It's not as difficult with dildos, maybe because I'm in complete control. In Antipova's thread about this (too lazy to look it up), I measured out almost exactly average.
04/21/2012
Contributor: P'Gell P'Gell
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Originally posted by Tuesday
In one study I read they measured from the urethra to the clit because it's easy to know where the center of the urethra is and the urethra is right next to the vagina. For me, this distance is just over an inch. I have a difficult time climaxing ... more
I'm still clueless about this, sorta. What is "average" distance?

Plus, I'm really "foldy" and doubt I could find my poor urethra without a lot of help.
04/21/2012
Contributor: Tuesday Tuesday
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Originally posted by P'Gell
I'm still clueless about this, sorta. What is "average" distance?

Plus, I'm really "foldy" and doubt I could find my poor urethra without a lot of help.
In other threads, Kira linked to this article that lists the average distance between urethra and clitoris as 28.5 mm. In Kira's poll about this, the results are bimodal, with many women being close to that average but also many women having a very short distance. I don't know what to make of that.
04/21/2012
Contributor: Beck Beck
Here is the thread Antipova and Kira (stained clear) came up with. And there is an attached study.

The things they did back in the day are awful. Surgery because her clit was too far away? Really, come on!!! I just watched the movie Hysteria, which is a pretty good movie. And Dr's us to diagnose women with Hysteria and for treatments would rub one off for them. But in serious cases a hysterectomy was done. I am so glad we have come a long way from that.
04/21/2012
Contributor: spiceboy spiceboy
I'm no expert on anyone's anatomy, even my own, but my g-spot and clitoris seem to sync up one on top of the other. G-spot stimulation and clitoral stimulation ultimately yield the same result because I get the sensation of reaching my clit from its underside or reaching my g-spot from above, if that makes sense. I can orgasm easily either way, though simultaneous stimulation is twice as pleasurable.

Not sure if/how that relates to the question of distance though.
04/21/2012
Contributor: puppylove puppylove
I've never measured, but I just learned a whole lot. Thanks, I have a project to do now.
04/21/2012
Contributor: Gracie Gracie
Well today I got out the tape measure and measured. I measured from the top edge of my vagina and I got 20 mm the first time I measured and 22mm the second and third time I measured. I can orgasm most of the time during piv sex with no additional clit stim. I orgasm faster/stronger if I have already had an orgasm from manual, oral or vibrator stimulation just prior to penetration.

So, would I be in the closely spaced group or the average spaced group? P'Gell what are you going to do with our data?
04/21/2012
Contributor: P'Gell P'Gell
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Originally posted by Tuesday
In other threads, Kira linked to this article that lists the average distance between urethra and clitoris as 28.5 mm. In Kira's poll about this, the results are bimodal, with many women being close to that average but also many women having a ... more
I missed that. Thank you.
04/21/2012
Contributor: P'Gell P'Gell
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Originally posted by Gracie
Well today I got out the tape measure and measured. I measured from the top edge of my vagina and I got 20 mm the first time I measured and 22mm the second and third time I measured. I can orgasm most of the time during piv sex with no additional ... more
Gracie @ P'Gell what are you going to do with our data? I don't know yet. I was curious as could be. It's interesting, with this data plus Kira's we have something interesting going here.
04/21/2012
Contributor: Loriandhubby Loriandhubby
oh my gosh. I always knew Freud was a nut! Truly!!! I have never head of this subjuct. I have learned a lot and i'm going to measure soon. I have never had an orgasam unitll coming to eden any way other then with just what i guess is PIV ( i'm not sure what exactly that stands for) but i did notice in my more prude days that if i was on top and my clit rubbed a bit during intercouse the orgasam was much stronger.

Now since EF oh my my orgasmas are stronger and better then ever.

@Beck, i have heard of that also, the hysteria stuff. I saw once in a psy class that the docs had machanical devices to rub the clit and that was supose to cure it. We have come a very long way.

Very interesting subject. I can't wait to read more.
04/21/2012
Contributor: Gracie Gracie
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Originally posted by Loriandhubby
oh my gosh. I always knew Freud was a nut! Truly!!! I have never head of this subjuct. I have learned a lot and i'm going to measure soon. I have never had an orgasam unitll coming to eden any way other then with just what i guess is PIV ( ... more
PIV stands for penis in vagina.

We learn all kinds of stuff here!
04/21/2012
Contributor: indiglo indiglo
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Originally posted by spiceboy
I'm no expert on anyone's anatomy, even my own, but my g-spot and clitoris seem to sync up one on top of the other. G-spot stimulation and clitoral stimulation ultimately yield the same result because I get the sensation of reaching my clit ... more
That's an interesting idea! My g-spot is pretty far inside, and the distance between my urethra and clitoris is pretty far too. I would say that makes them sync up one on top of the other as well. I never thought about that before, but that would be another interesting thing to learn!
04/21/2012
Contributor: Beck Beck
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Originally posted by Loriandhubby
oh my gosh. I always knew Freud was a nut! Truly!!! I have never head of this subjuct. I have learned a lot and i'm going to measure soon. I have never had an orgasam unitll coming to eden any way other then with just what i guess is PIV ( ... more
That is were the vibrator came from. This is also covered in the movie. The DR.'s who rubbed off women developed carpal tunnel, so they developed a vibrator. And here we all our enjoying them.
04/21/2012
Contributor: chicmichiw chicmichiw
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Originally posted by Beck
That is were the vibrator came from. This is also covered in the movie. The DR.'s who rubbed off women developed carpal tunnel, so they developed a vibrator. And here we all our enjoying them.
Lol, love it.

Great post! My distance is about 22 mm, measured from the edge. I certainly don't have orgasms from PIV, ever, which sucks.
05/03/2013