EdenKink - Types of BDSM Relationships - Wednesday, November 16th, 2011 @ 8pm ET

Contributor: aliceinthehole aliceinthehole
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Originally posted by Antipova
ThermoPlastic Elastomer?

Oh wait, Total Power Exchange. Somebody's a little too attached to her "anatomically correct cylinder" collection
i thought thermoplastic elastomer too!
11/16/2011
Contributor: Vanille Vanille
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Originally posted by AndroAngel
Hey, Vanille. That's pretty cool. I actually have some questions about pet-play if you ever have the time to talk over PM.
Always have the time. Feel free to contact me any time.
11/16/2011
Contributor: seaofneptune seaofneptune
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Originally posted by Serenesub
I'm the same. BEfore my owner and I really got settled I'd top him once in a while. When he's pissing me off I threaten to spank him.. or do and run like fucking hell. It's just not a natural feeling for us haha
Ha ha! I love the "run like fucking hell" part
11/16/2011
Contributor: Rayne Millaray Rayne Millaray
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Originally posted by Dusk
Bye, Rayne!
Am I leaving? I mean I was just lamenting the raspberry vodka being gone, but I didn't think I was going anywhere?
11/16/2011
Contributor: Taylor Taylor
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Originally posted by Rayne Millaray
For me, a master/slave relationship is total power exchange. But there's a bit of formality that isn't always there in a strictly owner/property relationship. Does anyone else distinguish between these two?
Yes, I kind of feel like a Master/slave relationship implies that there is more of a commitment than in other types of relationships.
11/16/2011
Contributor: aliceinthehole aliceinthehole
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Originally posted by Vanille
It's goin' good Alice! Going good for you too, I hope?
better now that my boy brought me oreos. and will be sleeping with me tonight. sometimes you just need your sweet boyfriend, ya know?
11/16/2011
Contributor: AndroAngel AndroAngel
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Originally posted by Vanille
Always have the time. Feel free to contact me any time.
That's awesome. Thank you.
11/16/2011
Contributor: Serenesub Serenesub
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Originally posted by Rayne Millaray
For me, a master/slave relationship is total power exchange. But there's a bit of formality that isn't always there in a strictly owner/property relationship. Does anyone else distinguish between these two?
Kinda.. I always feel totally silly answering these because he and I have taken little bits from everywhere and made the rest up so I'm owned but get some opinions and such. So I distinguish between every little term.
11/16/2011
Contributor: Kitka Kitka
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Originally posted by Rayne Millaray
For me, a master/slave relationship is total power exchange. But there's a bit of formality that isn't always there in a strictly owner/property relationship. Does anyone else distinguish between these two?
I noticed this while attending a play party down in NYC with Daddy. There was a Master/slave couple there and their dynamic did most definitely have a bit of formality to it as compared to an owner/property relationship.
11/16/2011
Contributor: aliceinthehole aliceinthehole
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Originally posted by Dusk
I lived near San Francisco for a while, and I'm learning that it's harder to be involved the farther you are from a big city. Munches are a great way to meet people though, as well as any organizations that might meet in your area. I joined ... more
"munch"
the new word of the evening.


learn something every day! thanks!
11/16/2011
Contributor: Serenesub Serenesub
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Originally posted by seaofneptune
Ha ha! I love the "run like fucking hell" part
Hey... the man is surprisingly fast.
11/16/2011
Contributor: Vanille Vanille
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Originally posted by aliceinthehole
better now that my boy brought me oreos. and will be sleeping with me tonight. sometimes you just need your sweet boyfriend, ya know?
Oreos?!I love Oreos!

-grins- Always need your SO, that's just how it goes.
11/16/2011
Contributor: Vanille Vanille
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Originally posted by AndroAngel
That's awesome. Thank you.
No problem at all.
11/16/2011
Contributor: AndroAngel AndroAngel
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Originally posted by aliceinthehole
"munch"
the new word of the evening.


learn something every day! thanks!
Munches are totally awesome, you should definitely go to one. I love them.
11/16/2011
Contributor: Rayne Millaray Rayne Millaray
M and I tend to fluctuate between master and slave and owner and property. I am always his to use and abuse as he sees fit, but sometimes the formality takes a holiday. Other times there's an element of force. All of it is consensual, though. It's called "consent to nonconsent".
11/16/2011
Contributor: aliceinthehole aliceinthehole
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Originally posted by Rayne Millaray
Am I leaving? I mean I was just lamenting the raspberry vodka being gone, but I didn't think I was going anywhere?
you know they have CAKE vodka now? its got a pic of a cupcake on the bottle. do want.

11/16/2011
Contributor: Noira Noira
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Originally posted by Rayne Millaray
For me, a master/slave relationship is total power exchange. But there's a bit of formality that isn't always there in a strictly owner/property relationship. Does anyone else distinguish between these two?
Oh yes, definitely. And formality is a good way of putting it. There is a difference between the people who say... ID themselves as 'Master's cunt' versus 'Master's slave'.

The mentality of 'I am a sex toy' seems to come with "and I am here to do whatever Master demands of me to please him/her."

Versus a slave who has the mindset of "I belong to Master" and then "And my will is his/hers."

Sex toy (owner/property) relationships seem to be one-sided when it comes to pleasing someone. Sex toys do what pleases their master on demand, theoretically. Slaves are owned. They have given up their power. But it's still not so... one sided as the "I am only property" relationship is. Owned to be used versus owned to be owned. And that's where the formality comes into play that you mention.
11/16/2011
Contributor: seaofneptune seaofneptune
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Originally posted by aliceinthehole
you know they have CAKE vodka now? its got a pic of a cupcake on the bottle. do want.

The cotton candy flavored vodka is actually pretty darn good!
11/16/2011
Contributor: Serenesub Serenesub
Even though I'm owned .. there isn't a lot of formality to my relationship unless he decides he wants it for a bit. He's very casual because he knows he's mentally enslaved me so things he'd push for just naturally happen. No rigidness needed.
11/16/2011
Contributor: Rayne Millaray Rayne Millaray
So what do you think, guys? Have we covered them all, or have we missed something?
11/16/2011
Contributor: winterseve winterseve
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Originally posted by Noira
Oh yes, definitely. And formality is a good way of putting it. There is a difference between the people who say... ID themselves as 'Master's cunt' versus 'Master's slave'.

The mentality of 'I am a sex toy' ... more
I like the way you explain that. It makes more sense to me from an outside view. It also answers a few questions I was trying to formulate.
11/16/2011
Contributor: aliceinthehole aliceinthehole
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Originally posted by Rayne Millaray
M and I tend to fluctuate between master and slave and owner and property. I am always his to use and abuse as he sees fit, but sometimes the formality takes a holiday. Other times there's an element of force. All of it is consensual, though. ... more
having grown up in a physically, emotionally, and as recent therapy has pulled out, possibly sexually abusive home, i dont think i could ever consent to submitting to physical force.

i'd have to be VERY healed from all that before that would be ok. i'd want to kill a mother fucker if he tried to place his hands on me. he'd walk away dickless.

see what i mean? still not healed.
11/16/2011
Contributor: Noira Noira
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Originally posted by Serenesub
Even though I'm owned .. there isn't a lot of formality to my relationship unless he decides he wants it for a bit. He's very casual because he knows he's mentally enslaved me so things he'd push for just naturally happen. No rigidness needed.
Rigid just makes me think of glass dildos... CRAP. DISTRACTED. CRAP.
11/16/2011
Contributor: Starkiller87 Starkiller87
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Originally posted by Rayne Millaray
So what do you think, guys? Have we covered them all, or have we missed something?
Thanks for the very informative discussion tonight. Ive taken away a lot with me.
11/16/2011
Contributor: Kitka Kitka
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Originally posted by Rayne Millaray
So what do you think, guys? Have we covered them all, or have we missed something?
What about Daddy/girl relationships?
11/16/2011
Contributor: Serenesub Serenesub
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Originally posted by aliceinthehole
having grown up in a physically, emotionally, and as recent therapy has pulled out, possibly sexually abusive home, i dont think i could ever consent to submitting to physical force.

i'd have to be VERY healed from all that before that ... more
I was and am the same way. With my owner though it's completely different. For some people the force actualyl helps.. for others it just makes it worse. Knowing yourself is a huge help!
11/16/2011
Contributor: aliceinthehole aliceinthehole
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Originally posted by Rayne Millaray
So what do you think, guys? Have we covered them all, or have we missed something?
i personally am so new to this i wouldnt know what is missing! i'm learning alot. sponge = me.
11/16/2011
Contributor: Tessa Taboo Tessa Taboo
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Originally posted by Rayne Millaray
So what do you think, guys? Have we covered them all, or have we missed something?
Well, I've certainly been learned....lol. There is a lot of information to put into context here.
11/16/2011
Contributor: AndroAngel AndroAngel
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Originally posted by Rayne Millaray
So what do you think, guys? Have we covered them all, or have we missed something?
What about Switch/Switch relationships?
11/16/2011
Contributor: Kitka Kitka
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Originally posted by AndroAngel
What about Switch/Switch relationships?
Oh good one!
11/16/2011