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#EdenLit - Club Meeting- January 9, 2012 at 7pm
01/09/2012
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That works very well. I have used something very much like that. Try to put yourself in that person's position and figure out what you would do. 90% of the time it is the same thing your readers would.
Originally posted by
Jul!a
Oh, or what about describing most of the scene and then rather than saying "suddenly she realized her hands were bound and she began to panic" you went with something more like "as she took in the elegant draperies that were tied open,
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Oh, or what about describing most of the scene and then rather than saying "suddenly she realized her hands were bound and she began to panic" you went with something more like "as she took in the elegant draperies that were tied open, she felt a breeze and reached to cover herself, only to find that her hands were restrained and this sent her into a slight panic." Only without all the commas, lol,.
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Although I have started with the short and sweet "She woke up and tried to rub her eyes, when..." if I was writing a quick nothing but action story.
01/09/2012
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My challenge to you would be to take to to basics. Write using language that is simple (not dull) and basic sentence structures. Practice it so that it becomes it's own style...and then mix it up. Sort of like when you learn to paint. Start with basic pencil lines and then GO NUTZ!
Originally posted by
Cedarlooman
Yeah, I still tend to have a few long complex sentences. And to your earlier comment about the language usage...I do use words that are not as common. Part of I is my own love of learning new words and another part is I got in the habit of writing to
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Yeah, I still tend to have a few long complex sentences. And to your earlier comment about the language usage...I do use words that are not as common. Part of I is my own love of learning new words and another part is I got in the habit of writing to a couple of very well-educated friends. Most of the time the meaning is implied by the context, bit not always.
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01/09/2012
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That's another good starting point as well. I admit I am more likely to get caught up in describing the details and make any realizations my characters may have be all the more unbelievable for it.
Originally posted by
Cedarlooman
That works very well. I have used something very much like that. Try to put yourself in that person's position and figure out what you would do. 90% of the time it is the same thing your readers would.
Although I have started with the short ... more
Although I have started with the short ... more
That works very well. I have used something very much like that. Try to put yourself in that person's position and figure out what you would do. 90% of the time it is the same thing your readers would.
Although I have started with the short and sweet "She woke up and tried to rub her eyes, when..." if I was writing a quick nothing but action story. less
Although I have started with the short and sweet "She woke up and tried to rub her eyes, when..." if I was writing a quick nothing but action story. less
01/09/2012
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THAT is what I'm talking about! Now minimalistic has it's place...especially in a stark story like Kathryn's Unicorn story. The thing is to be really interesting sometimes we have to whisper when we feel we should scream and scream when we should be quiet...if that makes sense.
Originally posted by
Jul!a
Oh, or what about describing most of the scene and then rather than saying "suddenly she realized her hands were bound and she began to panic" you went with something more like "as she took in the elegant draperies that were tied open,
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more
Oh, or what about describing most of the scene and then rather than saying "suddenly she realized her hands were bound and she began to panic" you went with something more like "as she took in the elegant draperies that were tied open, she felt a breeze and reached to cover herself, only to find that her hands were restrained and this sent her into a slight panic." Only without all the commas, lol,.
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01/09/2012
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Yes, describing what the character herself is experiencing is much better than "she woke up. she found her hands bound in rope. she screamed."
Originally posted by
Jul!a
Oh, or what about describing most of the scene and then rather than saying "suddenly she realized her hands were bound and she began to panic" you went with something more like "as she took in the elegant draperies that were tied open,
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more
Oh, or what about describing most of the scene and then rather than saying "suddenly she realized her hands were bound and she began to panic" you went with something more like "as she took in the elegant draperies that were tied open, she felt a breeze and reached to cover herself, only to find that her hands were restrained and this sent her into a slight panic." Only without all the commas, lol,.
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My main bad habit is getting so excited with something that I either rush it and accidentally skip something, or, if I don't have much to say, extend it with unnecessary fluff.
If my work has dialogue, I'll just write the first relevant thing that comes to mind and revise it into something better later on. I've been told that I'm a good writer, but writer's block loves to serial rape my brain.
01/09/2012
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That's a great trick as well...and gives me an idea for a writing topic as well! We could write in two parts: First the story and then the erotica inserted for the next month critique.
Originally posted by
Woman China
I agree!!!! I belong to a few erotic story sites. And nothing, and I mean nothing seems to irk me more than just the wham-bam thank-you-ma'am stories. Juicy bits are grand and fun... BUT... tease me please!!!
When I write longerish ... more
When I write longerish ... more
I agree!!!! I belong to a few erotic story sites. And nothing, and I mean nothing seems to irk me more than just the wham-bam thank-you-ma'am stories. Juicy bits are grand and fun... BUT... tease me please!!!
When I write longerish stories ("Beginnings and Endings" or "A Dream to Build a Life On" to name two) I write the whole story first. And in big bold red letters I write "insert smut here". It is a joke to myself using the word smut. But then I go back and write the sex scene to make it more powerful as it ties the story together. less
When I write longerish stories ("Beginnings and Endings" or "A Dream to Build a Life On" to name two) I write the whole story first. And in big bold red letters I write "insert smut here". It is a joke to myself using the word smut. But then I go back and write the sex scene to make it more powerful as it ties the story together. less
01/09/2012
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Hey Welcome!
Originally posted by
kadytheredpanda
Hi! I just got here! My connection is acting really odd, though...
01/09/2012
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That would be a challenge! I have gone through and stripped down my setup and dialogue trying to write short stories under 1000 words but haven't gone to simpler language ...I tend to get really repetitive.
Originally posted by
Airen Wolf
My challenge to you would be to take to to basics. Write using language that is simple (not dull) and basic sentence structures. Practice it so that it becomes it's own style...and then mix it up. Sort of like when you learn to paint. Start with
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My challenge to you would be to take to to basics. Write using language that is simple (not dull) and basic sentence structures. Practice it so that it becomes it's own style...and then mix it up. Sort of like when you learn to paint. Start with basic pencil lines and then GO NUTZ!
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01/09/2012
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Using some of the exercizes here can help with that immensely! Sometimes if you are describing something in a choppy sort of suspense thriller way the example you used can work. Now if you do feel that your work is too flowery or "fluffy" try chopping up into short sentences and see if that helps the flow of the story.
Originally posted by
kadytheredpanda
Yes, describing what the character herself is experiencing is much better than "she woke up. she found her hands bound in rope. she screamed."
My main bad habit is getting so excited with something that I either rush it and ... more
My main bad habit is getting so excited with something that I either rush it and ... more
Yes, describing what the character herself is experiencing is much better than "she woke up. she found her hands bound in rope. she screamed."
My main bad habit is getting so excited with something that I either rush it and accidentally skip something, or, if I don't have much to say, extend it with unnecessary fluff.
If my work has dialogue, I'll just write the first relevant thing that comes to mind and revise it into something better later on. I've been told that I'm a good writer, but writer's block loves to serial rape my brain. less
My main bad habit is getting so excited with something that I either rush it and accidentally skip something, or, if I don't have much to say, extend it with unnecessary fluff.
If my work has dialogue, I'll just write the first relevant thing that comes to mind and revise it into something better later on. I've been told that I'm a good writer, but writer's block loves to serial rape my brain. less
01/09/2012
I'm just curious based on the comments here - do most of you write erotica for publication - whether its on the web or somewhere else?
I don't really read erotica other than for this club and the one piece I've written so far for Eden Cafe that I need to write the second half for.
I don't really read erotica other than for this club and the one piece I've written so far for Eden Cafe that I need to write the second half for.
01/09/2012
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Yeah, when a character reacts outside the norm. You just have to be careful not to have it be too odd. Either that or set it up with some character development so the reader isn't totally thrown off.
Originally posted by
Airen Wolf
THAT is what I'm talking about! Now minimalistic has it's place...especially in a stark story like Kathryn's Unicorn story. The thing is to be really interesting sometimes we have to whisper when we feel we should scream and scream when
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THAT is what I'm talking about! Now minimalistic has it's place...especially in a stark story like Kathryn's Unicorn story. The thing is to be really interesting sometimes we have to whisper when we feel we should scream and scream when we should be quiet...if that makes sense.
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01/09/2012
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Under a thousand words??? I find it hard to make a blog post under a thousand words!!!
Originally posted by
Cedarlooman
That would be a challenge! I have gone through and stripped down my setup and dialogue trying to write short stories under 1000 words but haven't gone to simpler language ...I tend to get really repetitive.
01/09/2012
So with these ideas in mind:
*Keep it simple, silly.
*Begin wherever the action is happening.
*Use fewer commas and more helping verbs.
Let's look at my critical piece and Cedarlooman's:
Airen's
Cedarlooman's
*Keep it simple, silly.
*Begin wherever the action is happening.
*Use fewer commas and more helping verbs.
Let's look at my critical piece and Cedarlooman's:
Airen's
Cedarlooman's
01/09/2012
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I write a LOT of stories at 1,000 words or less. My sister can write 60,000 words for NaNoWriMo, but I only have one work longer than 30,000 words under my belt. Worse, that one 60,000 work was 101 chapters of killing Scrappy Doo and JUST killing Scrappy Doo. XD
Originally posted by
Cedarlooman
That would be a challenge! I have gone through and stripped down my setup and dialogue trying to write short stories under 1000 words but haven't gone to simpler language ...I tend to get really repetitive.
01/09/2012
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I have published most of my stuff to literotica.com prior to joining the group here. I have not submitted all of the stuff from here over there yet, but might.
Originally posted by
Hot 'N Sexy TexasMama
I'm just curious based on the comments here - do most of you write erotica for publication - whether its on the web or somewhere else?
I don't really read erotica other than for this club and the one piece I've written so far for ... more
I don't really read erotica other than for this club and the one piece I've written so far for ... more
I'm just curious based on the comments here - do most of you write erotica for publication - whether its on the web or somewhere else?
I don't really read erotica other than for this club and the one piece I've written so far for Eden Cafe that I need to write the second half for. less
I don't really read erotica other than for this club and the one piece I've written so far for Eden Cafe that I need to write the second half for. less
01/09/2012
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I write mostly to order though I have been published. Generally the person I am writing for chooses the language and the action. I write essays and current events as well as more personal exposes and down right pornographic erotica. I have dabbled in sci-fi and supernatural fiction as well.
Originally posted by
Hot 'N Sexy TexasMama
I'm just curious based on the comments here - do most of you write erotica for publication - whether its on the web or somewhere else?
I don't really read erotica other than for this club and the one piece I've written so far for ... more
I don't really read erotica other than for this club and the one piece I've written so far for ... more
I'm just curious based on the comments here - do most of you write erotica for publication - whether its on the web or somewhere else?
I don't really read erotica other than for this club and the one piece I've written so far for Eden Cafe that I need to write the second half for. less
I don't really read erotica other than for this club and the one piece I've written so far for Eden Cafe that I need to write the second half for. less
01/09/2012
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I do too. That is why it was such a challenge.
Originally posted by
Woman China
Under a thousand words??? I find it hard to make a blog post under a thousand words!!!
01/09/2012
(Completely off topic, but I wanted to share with you guys that I'm working on a cafe piece about being a hypocrite, and I figured who better to share with than the awesome writers of Eden Lit!)
(also, I'd love very much if once it's published, anybody else admits that I'm not the only one, lol)
(also, I'd love very much if once it's published, anybody else admits that I'm not the only one, lol)
01/09/2012
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ACK was it at least creative ways of killing the annoying little runt?
Originally posted by
kadytheredpanda
I write a LOT of stories at 1,000 words or less. My sister can write 60,000 words for NaNoWriMo, but I only have one work longer than 30,000 words under my belt. Worse, that one 60,000 work was 101 chapters of killing Scrappy Doo and JUST killing
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more
I write a LOT of stories at 1,000 words or less. My sister can write 60,000 words for NaNoWriMo, but I only have one work longer than 30,000 words under my belt. Worse, that one 60,000 work was 101 chapters of killing Scrappy Doo and JUST killing Scrappy Doo. XD
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01/09/2012
Thanks. Sorry to interrupt for that question just so many of you seem to be experienced at erotica and the styles of writing for it, etc.
01/09/2012
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Mmhmm, those are good tips...
Originally posted by
Airen Wolf
So with these ideas in mind:
*Keep it simple, silly.
*Begin wherever the action is happening.
*Use fewer commas and more helping verbs.
Let's look at my critical piece and ... more
*Keep it simple, silly.
*Begin wherever the action is happening.
*Use fewer commas and more helping verbs.
Let's look at my critical piece and ... more
So with these ideas in mind:
*Keep it simple, silly.
*Begin wherever the action is happening.
*Use fewer commas and more helping verbs.
Let's look at my critical piece and Cedarlooman's:
Airen's
Cedarlooman's less
*Keep it simple, silly.
*Begin wherever the action is happening.
*Use fewer commas and more helping verbs.
Let's look at my critical piece and Cedarlooman's:
Airen's
Cedarlooman's less
01/09/2012
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I did like your story. The one thing that threw me at the beginning and I kept circling back to was her in a tunic and pants and he somehow got a peek at her nether curls.
Originally posted by
Airen Wolf
So with these ideas in mind:
*Keep it simple, silly.
*Begin wherever the action is happening.
*Use fewer commas and more helping verbs.
Let's look at my critical piece and ... more
*Keep it simple, silly.
*Begin wherever the action is happening.
*Use fewer commas and more helping verbs.
Let's look at my critical piece and ... more
So with these ideas in mind:
*Keep it simple, silly.
*Begin wherever the action is happening.
*Use fewer commas and more helping verbs.
Let's look at my critical piece and Cedarlooman's:
Airen's
Cedarlooman's less
*Keep it simple, silly.
*Begin wherever the action is happening.
*Use fewer commas and more helping verbs.
Let's look at my critical piece and Cedarlooman's:
Airen's
Cedarlooman's less
01/09/2012
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LOL I am the WORST for looking like a hypocrite because my paradigms are pretty fluid and if you present a good case I MIGHT be changing my perceptions....though probably not my mind. That and I know I am a dyed in the wool hypocrite to boot.
Originally posted by
Jul!a
(Completely off topic, but I wanted to share with you guys that I'm working on a cafe piece about being a hypocrite, and I figured who better to share with than the awesome writers of Eden Lit!)
(also, I'd love very much if once ... more
(also, I'd love very much if once ... more
(Completely off topic, but I wanted to share with you guys that I'm working on a cafe piece about being a hypocrite, and I figured who better to share with than the awesome writers of Eden Lit!)
(also, I'd love very much if once it's published, anybody else admits that I'm not the only one, lol) less
(also, I'd love very much if once it's published, anybody else admits that I'm not the only one, lol) less
01/09/2012
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I promise TexasMama I will touch on writing more personal works that are non-fiction as well. Just both of the pieces submitted for Critical review were erotica this month!
Originally posted by
Hot 'N Sexy TexasMama
Thanks. Sorry to interrupt for that question just so many of you seem to be experienced at erotica and the styles of writing for it, etc.
01/09/2012
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I think you'll like my piece then.
Originally posted by
Airen Wolf
LOL I am the WORST for looking like a hypocrite because my paradigms are pretty fluid and if you present a good case I MIGHT be changing my perceptions....though probably not my mind. That and I know I am a dyed in the wool hypocrite to boot.
01/09/2012
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That was part of my clean up of the totally amateurish tone I had taken (becaue it was written when I WAS a rank amateur) and I forgot to add that it was a pair of split crotch, see thru harem pants. Talk about not keeping it simple, eh?
Originally posted by
Cedarlooman
I did like your story. The one thing that threw me at the beginning and I kept circling back to was her in a tunic and pants and he somehow got a peek at her nether curls.
01/09/2012
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A few sample chapter titles:
Originally posted by
Airen Wolf
ACK was it at least creative ways of killing the annoying little runt?
Poisoning his lemonade, Muppet flogging, Valentine's Day Massacre reenact ion, Wicker Man, Luck o' the Irish, fortune cookie fortune of DOOM, fight with toy lightsabers, zombies, turkey beak pecking, and the Vogons from the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy destroying Earth to make way for a new intergalatic highway.
I was between 13-15 when I wrote this. @_@
01/09/2012
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I've never written much erotica, to be honest. When I do write a sex scene, I keep it very muddled. I've never had partner sex, so it feels really weird for me to write explicit erotica/romance.
Originally posted by
Hot 'N Sexy TexasMama
Thanks. Sorry to interrupt for that question just so many of you seem to be experienced at erotica and the styles of writing for it, etc.
01/09/2012
I loved the story that Cedar wove for us but the beginning was so very fast paced as he rushed to catch us all up on what his heroine was doing, who she was and why she was at the Inn. I would have liked to see that all sprinkled through the whole piece but strangely it did grow on me and eventually it all made sense why it was all scrunched up there at the beginning.
01/09/2012