Hollow dildos with holes in them?

Contributor: Darling Dove Darling Dove
It was already stated that a pursuit of such information was underway. I simply think this should have been disclosed and customer service is an important part of business. That's all. I speak up when I see something that is wrong.
08/31/2009
Contributor: Epiphora Epiphora
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Originally posted by Carrie Ann
Glass breaks.

I've broken corningwear and pyrex cookware more times than I can count.

I'm starting to feel like this is a witch hunt on Don Wands and it's really sad.

When DBD stated that she had a very expensive ... more
The hole bothers me far more than the fact that it could break. And yes, Don Wands is being singled out because no other glass manufacturer that I know of makes glass dildos with holes in the ends.
08/31/2009
Contributor: Backseat Boohoo Backseat Boohoo
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Originally posted by Victoria
Hello all. I contacted the Eden Product Manager - and here's the plan: We will contact each glass manufacturer and ask for a list of all of the hollow dildos they make and for measurements of their thickness. When (and if) we get this information ... more
Um, this is BAMF. Thank you!
08/31/2009
Contributor: Not Here Anymore f/k/a Happy Lady Not Here Anymore f/k/a Happy Lady
Thank you Victoria for saying that EF is going to provide us additional information about glass dildos directly from the manufacturers. This will allow us to make our own decisions and decide whether or not some toys are us individually.

I'm not thrilled with this particular situation, nor was I happy about the treatment another reviewer received for questioning a material.

I hope that EF continues to allow for open discussion, and again and I look forward to finding better information on glass pieces on EF soon.
08/31/2009
Contributor: Adam Burns Adam Burns
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Originally posted by Victoria
Whoa, Adam! I am floored by your show of collegiality. Thank you for the information - I am guessing that people assume quite opposite about hollow pieces and perceive them to be cheap, not expensive and difficult to make.
yes, Victoria, I'm reading a lot of assumptions about glass production...Kevin will be joining the forum very soon to start educating everyone on glass manufacturing. HOLLOW does not always mean cheap and dangerous..and SOLID doesn't necessarily warrant quality and safety, it's usually the complete opposite. It's all about who is making the product. To be quite honest with everyone, disclosing the wall thickness isn't going to say much about the finished products. In addition to technique, we have the issue of raw material quality. A thinner wall tube from a superior glass supplier or "brand" may be stronger and better quality overall than a heavier wall tube from an inferior supplier..if that makes any sense. You can also take a very high quality raw glass material and absolutely destroy it if you don't know what you are doing. Remember it takes over 1400 degrees farenheit to melt this glass. One can see a lot of potential problems (or lack thereof) internally with a special device called a polariscope. It has a lens that shows us everything inside the glass that we can't see with our eyes. I personally have in my office products from just about every manufacturer who has survived longer than a year. You would be shocked and amazed at what we see. From an overall quality standpoint, Don Wands does makes a great product for the money. They have been manufacturing for a while now and their experience really does show. I personally recommend the brand to our wholesale accounts who have a hard time selling the higher ticket glass items.
08/31/2009
Contributor: Darling Dove Darling Dove
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Originally posted by Adam Burns
yes, Victoria, I'm reading a lot of assumptions about glass production...Kevin will be joining the forum very soon to start educating everyone on glass manufacturing. HOLLOW does not always mean cheap and dangerous..and SOLID doesn't ... more
And you approve of them leaving holes in the glass with plugs that can be removed, and not telling anyone, I suppose?
08/31/2009
Contributor: Adam Burns Adam Burns
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Originally posted by Darling Dove
And you approve of them leaving holes in the glass with plugs that can be removed, and not telling anyone, I suppose?
I approve of the Don Wands brand, but would actually need to see exactly what you are referring to in order to fairly answer your question. The majority of adult toys can be disassembled if that is one's agenda....screws can be removed, wiring can be exposed, battery door hinges can fall off, rubber materials can tear...etc. etc.. An open ended tube doesn't mean it is bad, unsafe or dangerous. There are some glass finger sleeves (which is a tube with one sealed end and one open end to insert your finger) that have recently been brought to market...Do I think the glass is unsafe?? No. Would I personally use the product, probably not because I would be concerned of it slipping off of my finger, but that does not reflect on the quality of the product as much as it does practicality.
08/31/2009
Contributor: Darling Dove Darling Dove
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Originally posted by Adam Burns
I approve of the Don Wands brand, but would actually need to see exactly what you are referring to in order to fairly answer your question. The majority of adult toys can be disassembled if that is one's agenda....screws can be removed, wiring ... more
You don't seem to have actually looked at the situation at all?? Our issue is what Don Wands did not DISCLOSE either of these things, has ignored questions about it in the past, and that Don Wands leaves the holes from firing the glass open, and only plugs them with some silicone, which can and will come out, leaving the hole to collect bacteria and take on water (there was a vid of this, thats how it started). Phallix and other high end toys, while perhaps hollow (though thick), they have not been found to have a hole in them to my knowledge.

We aren't talking about finger sleeves here. That 'hole' is big enough to wash inside. The DW toys hole is a few mm across and is large enough to take on water but small enough to where the water simply wont come out without a fight. You cannot, therefore, clean inside the toys and whatever becomes trapped in there will stay. The silicone plugs may do their job most of the time- but is this due to the plug, or due to people know knowing it's there? If I closely inspected my glass, and found a non glass material, I can guarantee I'd be picking at it to see what it was. This is how I (and apparently others) am because I was informed it was all glass. I would take it as dirt or something else I did not want there.

I think you're just trying to cover for the company without understanding why we are mad. They could sell gold plated dildos for $30 that made you come just by looking at them, but I would still be irritated if they did not disclose things, and if they left a hole in them that liquid could get in, but couldn't be removed from. The technical specifications of their product may be flawless beyond the hole that, if the plug ever wears out, will start collecting an advanced civilization in your innermost regions, but technical specifications are not as much the main concern here.

Here we have what is billed as an all glass toy, which basically is a hollow piece of glass with a hole right on the tip of the head of the toy. There is silicone in the hole. The silicone obviously will feel different from glass, and it should be assumed that people who are taught their toy is all glass and not told otherwise from the manufacturer themselves will try to remove non glass particles from their toy. But... I suppose manufacturers stick together?? I know the hole is needed for firing- but I haven't seen any other company that has lattachino toys that just outright leaves a hole in them.
09/01/2009
Contributor: Liz2 Liz2
You are so right on! I thought all mfg. had advanced after the "mysterious" jelly substance formally used in toys.
09/01/2009
Contributor: Don Wands Don Wands
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Originally posted by Darling Dove
You don't seem to have actually looked at the situation at all?? Our issue is what Don Wands did not DISCLOSE either of these things, has ignored questions about it in the past, and that Don Wands leaves the holes from firing the glass open, and ... more
We are planning on updating the descriptions on our website to include more details about the hollow designed Don Wands. Also, we would like to thank Adam for providing support and additional information about glass products.
09/01/2009
Contributor: glassfans1 glassfans1
I have just e-mailed Don Wands, not because I am singling them out, but because we have recently purchased a few of these wands and would like to continue doing so. The ones we purchased seem to be pretty solid. Excellent price, pretty good quality, overall, we think they are great! All of the advantages of glass have been talked about extensively, so I will get to my point. I would like to know which wands are hollow as well, seems like it negates the whole "non-porous, easy to clean, safe from bacteria" etc, etc, benefit if you get anything inside. This is why it would be nice to make an INFORMED choice when purchasing a glass wand from ANY maker. We have decided to wait on DW until we know if the models we are interested in, (#9888 yellow,blue,white zig zag, and #9883) are hollow or not. I find it is safe to assume the #9883 is hollow since it too has the Lattachino design. I think that this needs to be pursued aggressively. The makers/sellers stand to lose a lot of sales if customers still can't find this info. I suspect the one we want is solid, but until we know for sure, we're waiting for now. Others not already fans of DW products might just go elsewhere. As of 10:30am pacific, on 9-10-2009, Don Wand's website has not been updated. We have not gotten a reply from them either, but its only been an hour if that. We currently have 5 wands from Don Wands, two more are set to arrive in the next week. We really like their wands and hope they follow through with their commitment to shed light on the hollow glass, holes, and plugs. Thanks to everyone for the info and bringing this to peoples attention. And once again, The DW stuff we have so far is awesome! Thanks for a great product.
09/10/2009
Contributor: glassfans1 glassfans1
Here is some new info, Nikki at Don Wands stated in an e-mail that the new descriptions showing which wands have a hollow core have been provided to the webmaster, they are just waiting for them to upload to the site. I appreciate their quick response to our question, and it sounds like the 9888 is NOT hollow, too cool!
09/10/2009
Contributor: Darling Dove Darling Dove
Just a note: Descriptions are still not changed on the one we KNOW to be hollow, 9885, and the other lattachino toy, 9883.
09/21/2009
Contributor: Carrie Ann Carrie Ann
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Originally posted by Darling Dove
Just a note: Descriptions are still not changed on the one we KNOW to be hollow, 9885, and the other lattachino toy, 9883.
I'm not seeing any manufacturer putting that info on their websites, despite the fact that all lattachino wands are hollow.
09/21/2009
Contributor: deceased deceased
I have a couple Don Wand Lattachino pieces -several years old. They are heavy, sturdy, and nover took on water even submersed in a pot for 3 days. I feel safe with their Lattachino dildos, they are quality pieces.
09/21/2009
Contributor: Darling Dove Darling Dove
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Originally posted by Carrie Ann
I'm not seeing any manufacturer putting that info on their websites, despite the fact that all lattachino wands are hollow.
But the point is they claimed they would- and they haven't.
09/21/2009
Contributor: Nikki3 Nikki3
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Originally posted by glassfans1
Here is some new info, Nikki at Don Wands stated in an e-mail that the new descriptions showing which wands have a hollow core have been provided to the webmaster, they are just waiting for them to upload to the site. I appreciate their quick ... more
There are several updates being made to the website which will be uploaded all at once. We are still waiting for the webmaster to finish those updates and then upload the new descriptions. I will be sure to let you all know when the website is updated.

Best Regards,
Nikki J.
Don Wands
09/21/2009
Contributor: Nikki3 Nikki3
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Originally posted by Nikki3
There are several updates being made to the website which will be uploaded all at once. We are still waiting for the webmaster to finish those updates and then upload the new descriptions. I will be sure to let you all know when the website is ... more
The Don Wands website has been updated and the new descriptions have been posted. For those of you using Mozilla, you might have to clear the Don Wands site from your browsing history for it to pull up the changes. I had this problem when I first opened up the site in Mozilla. The main page should have our new Candi Pak featured at the top.

Best Regards,
Nikki J.
Don Wands
09/22/2009
Contributor: Darling Dove Darling Dove
Thank you for updating the website.
09/22/2009
Contributor: nickeyt nickeyt
i did not know that
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