How To Pimp Reviews/Reviewers

How To Pimp Reviews/Reviewers

Ansley Ansley
Good Monday morning everyone! I hit the forums yesterday morning and I noticed a new reviewer had to resort to creating her own thread to pimp her review. I then hit the community corner page and noticed my own review was buried six pages deep.

I am aware there is an RSS feed for all new reviews that have been posted and for obvious reasons the weekends might be a little slower. All of this aside, do you have any suggestions on how to get newer users in the spotlight.

The reason for asking is two-fold. One because rating these reviews helps improve the rating of the user in general and the second one might be a little more difficult to explain without sounding bratty. (Please don't let me sound bratty!)

In the weekly rumbles, it seems to be the same ten or so people nominated every week. Where's the love for the newbies? Should we consider having two sets of rumbles? One for the newer users and one for the more advanced users? It just doesn't seem fair to have to compete against the really advanced users when the newer users work just as hard to create a quality review. Or hey, what about this? Maybe divide it between students and advanced? What do you guys think?
06/06/2011
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VieuxCarre VieuxCarre
In regard to the rumble, that's how it's always been. To be honest, I've been in the rumble I think twice since I've been here in two years so really it's not something you should get too upset about. And I hear you about reviews getting buried. Mine get buried two pages deep after being posted for five minutes.

Honestly, get people to follow you by following them and/or interacting with them that way people will know that you posted a review. If they vote on it it'll show up on their wall for their friends to see and the breadcrumb trail begins.

That's the best suggestion I could make to you. Either that or create one single thread for people to post in when they have a new review or two up that they want people to notice. I hope this helps!
06/06/2011
Ansley Ansley
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Originally posted by VieuxCarre
In regard to the rumble, that's how it's always been. To be honest, I've been in the rumble I think twice since I've been here in two years so really it's not something you should get too upset about. And I hear you about ...
I'm not upset about it, but the admin is always asking for suggestions. Just because something has always been done that way doesn't mean it needs to stay that way. Having people follow you is something that happens AFTER they read the review or stumble upon a comment.
06/06/2011
Jul!a Jul!a
Having people follow you is also something that happens after they've had some sort of interaction with you on the forums as well. There are reviewers that I've followed because I stumbled upon their review or something like that, but there are plenty that I've followed and then seen reviews from that were from the forums.

I do agree that there should be a better way for newer reviewers to get noticed, but I don't think having separate rumbles is the way to do that. For starters, if there really is nobody looking at these reviews to nominate them for the regular rumble, then who's there to pick them for the "newbie" rumble? And at what point do you transition from one to the other? I really think it's best to leave it at one rumble, and go ahead and nominate newer reviewers there too. If the same amount of work is being put in by the newer reviewer and the reviewer that's been around longer, how is it not a fair competition? At least from a logic standpoint. I understand that some people vote based on who they know, but there have been plenty of "unknown" people winning rumbles in the past.

Realistically, the reviews are there to help customers decide on whether or not they want to buy a product, not for the reviewer to win gift cards for writing it or even to have it pimped everywhere. Long after the rumble they might have been eligible for has passed, people will still be reading their reviews by looking at the product page. There are other ways to get reviews noticed than just being on the community news page and in rumbles. I think having one single thread where people can share their latest reviews that they're really proud of is definitely a great idea and I have no problem with that. Otherwise I suggest just being more active in the forums and discussions. You'll get follows and people reading your reviews that way too
06/06/2011
VieuxCarre VieuxCarre
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Originally posted by Jul!a
Having people follow you is also something that happens after they've had some sort of interaction with you on the forums as well. There are reviewers that I've followed because I stumbled upon their review or something like that, but there ...
Agreed, Sam.

I also want to point out that this isn't a popularity contests here at EF. No one is competing with anyone to be the "best" or "most popular." Granted, those who have been around longer are better known, but that doesn't make them "better" than anyone else here on the site. Before the points, gift cards, mentor program, and even "review pimping," there weren't as many reviewers as there are today. Our community is growing larger and larger every day and those people want to get noticed as much as you do. One way I got the word out about my reviews was by using Twitter (before Facebook ever had "pages"). Even my blog helped out tremendously to let people know about my reviews.

A lot of reviews get lost in the mix. Mine have in the recent past because there is a lot of traffic and a lot of reviews going up all at the same time. Just be patient and know that things come with time.

And I don't follow people after reading a review. I follow people after some sort of interaction with them.
06/06/2011
Ansley Ansley
Quote:
Originally posted by VieuxCarre
Agreed, Sam.

I also want to point out that this isn't a popularity contests here at EF. No one is competing with anyone to be the "best" or "most popular." Granted, those who have been around longer are better known, ...
Ok, first of all no one said anything about anyone being better than anyone else. That's not what this is about.

Second of all, the help sections regarding ranking for this site expressly state that your rank is in part due to popularity.

Just trying to get everyone who works hard recognized. I have a feeling this is being taken as a diss to the reviwers who are always nominated and that isn't the case.

@Sam, I like the one thread idea very much. I suppose it would help if it was something an admin set up.
06/06/2011
El-Jaro El-Jaro
I'd love to see more new contributors get active on the site.

It kinda bugs me to see people jump on the forums with "I have a new review!" or "I can't wait to get my package!". I understand it's exciting, but every other person on the site has the same thing going on or has been there and it just floats down to the bottom of the forums.

Getting into the mentor program to help write better reviews and being active on the forums are probably the best ways for a new contributor to get involved on the site.
06/07/2011
VieuxCarre VieuxCarre
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Originally posted by Ansley
Ok, first of all no one said anything about anyone being better than anyone else. That's not what this is about.

Second of all, the help sections regarding ranking for this site expressly state that your rank is in part due to ...
I wasn't saying you did. I was pointing something out to others who might read that and insinuate that that's what you're saying. The help sections do NOT expressly state that your rank is due to popularity. There are PLENTY of people of high rank who have written few reviews but they post a lot in the forums. Rank is determined by ACTIVITY on the site, not how many people are voting for your reviews. Yes, voting on and commenting on reviews does determine rank a bit, but the biggest part is activity.

It's not taken as a diss. I will say, however, that it's not that others hard work isn't being recognized. Again, I'll reiterate that reviews get knocked off the list in the community corner easily. Some many not realize that their review has been bumped down. In all honesty, I recommend twitter and starting to follow and talk to people there who are here on the site. 90% of the contributors here have Twitter and Facebook accounts.
06/07/2011
VieuxCarre VieuxCarre
Quote:
Originally posted by El-Jaro
I'd love to see more new contributors get active on the site.

It kinda bugs me to see people jump on the forums with "I have a new review!" or "I can't wait to get my package!". I understand it's exciting, but ...
I agree. The forums get cluttered with those threads quite often. Tis why I suggested twitter and facebook
06/07/2011
SexyLilPixi SexyLilPixi
Yep, I agree with what JR said about the mentor program if needed, writing really helpful reviews, and being more interactive on the forum are the best ways for new reviewers to get in the spotlight. You kind of just gotta jump in around here & get to know folks & let them get to know you & that you write good reviews.
06/07/2011
Woman China Woman China
My personal bottom line is, I write reviews and blog posts for EF before I like what they are selling. A sex positive site, and because they have my faith and trust in what they are selling, I pimp them out. I do not write reviews or blog posts because of popularity.

In my mind, "popularity" really should not be the reason to write reviews.

But then again? that is just me.
06/07/2011
Dusk Dusk
I agree with a lot of things said above, and really don't get too worked up about the rumbles. It's the same people every week because they're good and they're pumping out a lot of high-quality reviews which makes them more likely to be nominated. I've never been nominated for a rumble, but I get involved in other places.
06/07/2011
bluekaren bluekaren
I thought the same thing, until I looked at their reviews. They are nominated all the time because their reviews are awesome. I am trying to take notes and improve on things by seeing their reviews. Being active in the forums is a great way to make new friends. In fact, I am gonna go check out all you reviews right now...

I have no problem with asking people to check out my new review via facebook and twitter. When I see people ask me to check theirs out I jump at the chance. My reviews get lost frequently and sometimes days go by before i get any rating, it happens. It is definitely frustrating. Also for me, I take every bit of criticism seriously. I do wish more people would explain their ranking of useful (but not extremely useful) I am thinking I should have tried a bit harder to make the product review more memorable.
06/07/2011
bluekaren bluekaren
OMG! Not only have I already seen your reviews and rated them as excellent, but you have only written 2 reviews and have almost the same "rank" as me and my 18 reviews! Much love girl! I fumbled much more than you, You are already great at this!
06/07/2011
ToyGurl ToyGurl
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Originally posted by Ansley
Good Monday morning everyone! I hit the forums yesterday morning and I noticed a new reviewer had to resort to creating her own thread to pimp her review. I then hit the community corner page and noticed my own review was buried six pages deep. ...
I really think two rumbles would be nice. Or better yet, no one should get nominated more than twice or three times in a year. That would make it really nice because everyone could get a chance.
06/07/2011
Jul!a Jul!a
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Originally posted by ToyGurl
I really think two rumbles would be nice. Or better yet, no one should get nominated more than twice or three times in a year. That would make it really nice because everyone could get a chance.
I get what you're saying, but at the same time, where are the people nominating all the other reviews? Newer reviews and reviewers make it into the rumble, and get nominated by the same people who also nominate "the same people" over and over. If you guys think more newer reviewers should be in the rumble, go ahead and nominate them. Anybody can nominate anybody but themselves, the only requirement is that the review hasn't previously won a rumble and is in the right time frame. That's seriously it. Having a second rumble won't do anything productive because now we're discriminating based on how long a reviewer has been around, or how many reviews they have, or what their rank is and I'll say again, if nobody is nominating these reviews on the rumble we currently have to begin with, who is going to be nominating them on their own special rumble?

Newbies most definitely deserve love too, but nothing happens overnight like that. Stick around, keep writing reviews, be active in the forums. All of these things will get you noticed and appreciated. And we should all be the change we want to see in the world here, if you think that not enough newer reviewers are being nominated for the rumble, then go ahead and nominate them, lol.
06/07/2011
Kindred Kindred
Quote:
Originally posted by Jul!a
I get what you're saying, but at the same time, where are the people nominating all the other reviews? Newer reviews and reviewers make it into the rumble, and get nominated by the same people who also nominate "the same people" over ...
You wrote:

Anybody can nominate anybody but themselves, the only requirement is that the review hasn't previously won a rumble and is in the right time frame.

Just to clarify, a reviewer can not have won the previous weeks Rumble and be eligible for the current week. This prevents someone from winning in consecutive weeks. However, they can have won the previous weeks Rumble and be nominated in the current Rumble since they would not be eligible to win until the next week. Hope that's clear as mud.
06/07/2011
Jul!a Jul!a
Quote:
Originally posted by Kindred
You wrote:

Anybody can nominate anybody but themselves, the only requirement is that the review hasn't previously won a rumble and is in the right time frame.

Just to clarify, a reviewer can not have won the previous weeks Rumble ...
Yes! This too!
06/07/2011
Antipova Antipova
Good thoughts, everyone! It's important that we give our newbies some love, but I think keeping everything in one rumble and having some focus on we, the nominators, looking to nominate new people is probably the way to do that. At least with respect to the rumble.

I try to check out the reviews of names I haven't seen before when I'm looking at the community page, and I'm glad that others did the same for me when I was brand-new. My fourth review was even nominated for the rumble before I knew what the rumble was!

One thing that I know hampers me a little in noticing and appreciating the newer reviewers, is that I tend to not look at reviews for super-low-end products, and a lot of times new reviewers put up reviews on vibes I don't really have any interest in. I'll try to be more aware of that, and check them out anyway.

Also, if you want your reviews to be noticed, one of the best ways is by interacting with people. When people comment with a question on my review, I make sure to answer them on their wall as well as on the review, and a lot of times I'll be impressed with their reviews and follow them too. Interacting on the forums introduces me to many good reviewers, also.
06/11/2011
Ansley Ansley
Thank you all for your feedback and I will put your suggestions to good use!
06/12/2011
K101 K101
I have noticed that. I don't think you sound bratty at all. I wish I had a suggestion for it, but yours seemed to really sum it up quite well. I think newer people who have clearly been putting in effort should be noticed too. If they want it, I mean I'm not one to love the spot light, but when you've worked hard and truly deserve it, you have to admit, it can be nice!
08/31/2011
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