Who'd be interested in an EF Spanish club?

Contributor: KnK KnK
I think I toyed around with the idea of starting a Spanish club on EF a few months back, but I was wondering, how many people would actually be interested in this as a club?

I'm not a native speaker, but I just got my minor in Spanish last semester and I've taken classes in the language all through high school and the past three years of my undergrad. So, in total, I've taken 7 years of Spanish.

I figured that this could be a good way for myself and others to stay fluent, brush up on their skills, or perhaps learn some Spanish if they aren't already familiar with the language.

Remember that this idea is in beta mode, so please be gentle and offer support (or flames?) and feedback as desired.

Muchas gracias,
Twisted
06/24/2011
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Contributor: BBW Talks Toys BBW Talks Toys
Quote:
Originally posted by KnK
I think I toyed around with the idea of starting a Spanish club on EF a few months back, but I was wondering, how many people would actually be interested in this as a club?

I'm not a native speaker, but I just got my minor in Spanish last ... more
It'd give me a place to practice... I'm very out of said practice, but I grew up speaking Spanish since my mother's side of the family is Cuban. Of course, I don't speak formal Spanish though.
06/24/2011
Contributor: DeliciousSurprise DeliciousSurprise
Necessito practica!
Estoy dentro

Pero... tiene que ser accesible a todos, principiantes o aquellos fluidez ya.



[I need practice!
I'm in.

But... It must be accessible to everyone, beginners or those fluent already.]
06/24/2011
Contributor: sexyintexas sexyintexas
I took some in college and sadly have lost quite a bit of it but yes I would be interested in learning more and refreshing what I do know.
06/24/2011
Contributor: BBW Talks Toys BBW Talks Toys
Mi problema es que soy mucho mas mejor en escribiendo en espanol. Cuando hablo, hasta mi accento esta horrible ya. Bueno, no cuando estoy tratando, pero cuando hablo por casualidad.

(my problem is that I'm much better at writing in Spanish. When I speak it, even my accent is horrible now. Well, not when I'm trying, but when I speak casually.)
06/24/2011
Contributor: curmudgeoncat curmudgeoncat
I'd be interested. I've never really learned a lot of sex lingo type words (through out five years in high school and three in college), and it'd be great to be more fluent in them if I ever decide to travel.
06/24/2011
Contributor: KnK KnK
Cool, we got a few bites. Anyone else interested? Bump!

I was thinking that we could upload videos, include some articles on Spanish basics in Eden Cafe, and of course celebrate the holidays and literature of Spanish speaking countries.

I've secretly wanted to do this for awhile, but I wasn't sure if anyone would be interested.

Feel free to share feedback
06/24/2011
Contributor: KnK KnK
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Originally posted by curmudgeoncat
I'd be interested. I've never really learned a lot of sex lingo type words (through out five years in high school and three in college), and it'd be great to be more fluent in them if I ever decide to travel.
Also, I'd be more than happy to share some dirty Spanish lingo. A lot of it varies from country to country though. Any particular countries you'd like to know the lingo for?
06/24/2011
Contributor: BBW Talks Toys BBW Talks Toys
Quote:
Originally posted by KnK
Cool, we got a few bites. Anyone else interested? Bump!

I was thinking that we could upload videos, include some articles on Spanish basics in Eden Cafe, and of course celebrate the holidays and literature of Spanish speaking ... more
It would be REALLY cool if we could expand this to having some of the basics about Eden in general in Spanish (Like translating the pages about the Mentor program, etc). Not to mention, even having a few people review on occasion in Spanish. Even having mentors for Spanish-speaking people!

Admin? Thoughts?
06/24/2011
Contributor: sexyintexas sexyintexas
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Originally posted by BBW Talks Toys
It would be REALLY cool if we could expand this to having some of the basics about Eden in general in Spanish (Like translating the pages about the Mentor program, etc). Not to mention, even having a few people review on occasion in Spanish. Even ... more
That is a great idea! With the amount of the population that speaks spanish I think that there would be a lot of people interested in this.
06/24/2011
Contributor: Kindred Kindred
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Originally posted by BBW Talks Toys
It would be REALLY cool if we could expand this to having some of the basics about Eden in general in Spanish (Like translating the pages about the Mentor program, etc). Not to mention, even having a few people review on occasion in Spanish. Even ... more
There is a Spanish option on the front page (upper right corner). However, unless I'm doing something wrong, it does not seem to be available for all pages.

And I think allowing reviews in Spanish is asking a bit much for EF. I would think that would require EF to have at least some Spanish speaking employees to cater to the Spanish speaking customers, otherwise why offer the possibility. It just seems like too much effort for too small of a niche. If EF decides they want to, then great. But I don't think it's something we should reasonably expect.
06/24/2011
Contributor: BBW Talks Toys BBW Talks Toys
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Originally posted by Kindred
There is a Spanish option on the front page (upper right corner). However, unless I'm doing something wrong, it does not seem to be available for all pages.

And I think allowing reviews in Spanish is asking a bit much for EF. I would ... more
I'll just offer myself for the position of catering to the Spanish speaking population on EF.... ummmm.... maybe not.... hmmmm.
06/24/2011
Contributor: KnK KnK
Quote:
Originally posted by BBW Talks Toys
It would be REALLY cool if we could expand this to having some of the basics about Eden in general in Spanish (Like translating the pages about the Mentor program, etc). Not to mention, even having a few people review on occasion in Spanish. Even ... more
*Sigh* This was one of the problems I encountered a few months back. I suggested this months ago and I was essentially shot down. A lot of other reviewers told me that it didn't make sense because it would cost EF too much money and there didn't seem to be much of a market for it/the already translated pages were "sufficient."

There are a few books that are in Spanish. Only one of which, I believe, has an English equivalent.
I don't think it makes any sense for there to be English reviews on Spanish books and I think that there'd be a great place for expansion here since the Spanish speaking portion of the world is a continent-and-a-half.

Such as these:
Ellas Llegan Primero (She Comes First)

El Amante Perfecto (The Perfect Lover)

Sex La Guia (Sex, The Guidebook)

7 Noches de Amor (Seven Nights of Love)


But off of my soapbox, let's try Spanish Club for today and conquer the world tomorrow. Shall we?
06/24/2011
Contributor: KnK KnK
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Originally posted by Kindred
There is a Spanish option on the front page (upper right corner). However, unless I'm doing something wrong, it does not seem to be available for all pages.

And I think allowing reviews in Spanish is asking a bit much for EF. I would ... more
It sounds nuts, but I'd be more than happy to offer myself for that position. I do realize that for me to even ask that, that'd I'd have to be more prominent on the site. I love EF, but I've only been a reviewer for 7 months so I'd be way out of line to even ask that at this point.
06/24/2011
Contributor: Kindred Kindred
Quote:
Originally posted by KnK
*Sigh* This was one of the problems I encountered a few months back. I suggested this months ago and I was essentially shot down. A lot of other reviewers told me that it didn't make sense because it would cost EF too much money and there ... more
I think it's a great idea for you to start a Spanish Club, but that's very different than asking EF to specifically expand and cater to a Spanish speaking customer base. Besides, there's a lot you can potentially do without having EF involved.

For example, if you were really interested in providing Spanish written reviews, why don't you figure a way to translate reviews currently written in English on the site and make them available either here on the forums, or better yet, on the EF Club Blog. There's plenty you can do, I just don't think we should necessarily ask it of EF.
06/24/2011
Contributor: Kindred Kindred
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Originally posted by KnK
It sounds nuts, but I'd be more than happy to offer myself for that position. I do realize that for me to even ask that, that'd I'd have to be more prominent on the site. I love EF, but I've only been a reviewer for 7 months so ... more
My point is it would take several employees and not just community members. It would not be fair to tell a Spanish speaking customer "Sorry, our one Spanish speaking employee is off today. Please call back tomorrow." It would be poor customer service. I know I would be frustrated by that type of response and likely not bother. My personal feeling is that if you're going to offer a service such as that, you do it right or don't bother.

And I think in relation to my post above, you could definitely make yourself known in the community as a Spanish speaking member and offer your services to help translate if anyone should need. Again, there's a lot you can do/offer that doesn't directly involve EF to do anything. You just have to be creative. For EF to change, I would think that you would have to demonstrate that it makes financial sense.
06/24/2011
Contributor: DeliciousSurprise DeliciousSurprise
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Originally posted by Kindred
I think it's a great idea for you to start a Spanish Club, but that's very different than asking EF to specifically expand and cater to a Spanish speaking customer base. Besides, there's a lot you can potentially do without having EF ... more
I agree with Kindred. I think it would be nice to have bilingual reviews/reviews in multiple languages; perhaps you should start an off-site blog and do your bilingual reviews there?

I disagree with the idea of having reviews solely in Spanish except in the case of books or films specifically in that language. For those, I see no problem with the review being written in the language of the book.
06/24/2011
Contributor: KnK KnK
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Originally posted by Kindred
My point is it would take several employees and not just community members. It would not be fair to tell a Spanish speaking customer "Sorry, our one Spanish speaking employee is off today. Please call back tomorrow." It would be poor ... more
Fair enough. I respect that.

I was starting this post initially to see if anyone actually wanted to be a part of a Spanish club before I go ahead and bother EF staff. I was planning on expanding Spanish club to doing other things only if there is enough of a response or desire to move in that direction.

I intend to start writing reviews in English and in Spanish to see if I get any positive feedback from Spanish speakers since I generally do my reviews off-site, I can easily do this.

If EF doesn't want to move that direction in the future, I can deal with that. It wouldn't be for a lack of trying.
06/24/2011
Contributor: Waterfall Waterfall
Quote:
Originally posted by KnK
I think I toyed around with the idea of starting a Spanish club on EF a few months back, but I was wondering, how many people would actually be interested in this as a club?

I'm not a native speaker, but I just got my minor in Spanish last ... more
Me encanta esta idea!! Necesito mas practica

I would definitely be interested in this. I minored in Spanish, but I have not had that much opportunity to speak, read, or practice it.
06/24/2011
Contributor: Kindred Kindred
Quote:
Originally posted by KnK
Fair enough. I respect that.

I was starting this post initially to see if anyone actually wanted to be a part of a Spanish club before I go ahead and bother EF staff. I was planning on expanding Spanish club to doing other things only if there ... more
I think that's a great way to start. What better way to suggest a change than demonstrate that there is a customer base with a need.

Perhaps if you are involved in any other Spanish speaking circles, you could make it known what you are trying to offer here? Try to expand beyond what is currently the EF community because if someone is here already, they likely already speak English.
06/24/2011
Contributor: Vaccinium Vaccinium
I need the practice. I took Spanish for 6 years in high school/college, and then had to go and screw myself up by taking a couple years of Portuguese.
06/24/2011
Contributor: BBW Talks Toys BBW Talks Toys
I only suggested it as an idea that popped into my head, I wasn't intending to have this train wreck into a debate on the efficacy of a Spanish-speaking staff here on-site.

Although, with my family living in Atlanta, I'd be willing to relocate for the position
06/24/2011
Contributor: KnK KnK
Quote:
Originally posted by Kindred
I think that's a great way to start. What better way to suggest a change than demonstrate that there is a customer base with a need.

Perhaps if you are involved in any other Spanish speaking circles, you could make it known what you are ... more
@ Kindred: The majority of the people that I know who speak Spanish also speak English (aka native speakers who decided to move to America or friends who grew up speaking English). I can dig around the webs and see what I can see.

@ BBW Talks Toys: It's alright, I'd consider this a healthy discussion. No biggie. Lol

@Vaccinium, Waterfall, Sexyintexas, Ivevrsxe, BBW Talks Toys, and Delicious Surprise:

YAY! I'm glad that you all are interested!
06/24/2011
Contributor: DeliciousSurprise DeliciousSurprise
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Originally posted by Vaccinium
I need the practice. I took Spanish for 6 years in high school/college, and then had to go and screw myself up by taking a couple years of Portuguese.
Urg, way to mindfuck yourself. Couldn't you just take Italian? Or a language completely different, like Russian or Japanese?
06/24/2011
Contributor: Nipplopulous Nipplopulous
sounds nices
10/25/2011
Contributor: indiglo indiglo
I will share my opinion, as a professional interpreter and translator with a couple decades of experience. I think it's a nice idea... in theory. I think for translating reviews, however, a proficiency exam would be needed. Lots of people think they speak another language well, when they are not truly proficient in it. Additionally, knowing a little bit of another language (or even a lot of another language) does not mean someone would be able to translate well.

I would support a Spanish language club, but would also wonder - would people be open to having their Spanish corrected? Would those making the videos and other educational materials have to pass a proficiency exam, or have their statements checked for accuracy before being published? These are just some of my pet peeves working with language, sorry for sounding soap box-ish. This just happens to be one of those areas that is a hot button topic for me, and gets me all passionate and fired up.
10/25/2011