Should HAND SHAKING be a thing of the past????

Should HAND SHAKING be a thing of the past????

Bignuf Bignuf
Sorry, but the good old fashioned "hand shake" needs to GO AWAY, in my opinion. I don't need it to welcome you, or trust you in a business deal. Yes, it has HISTORY. In fact, it was to see if you had a KNIFE up your sleeve. Guess what, I am not worried about that either.

WHY on earth, in these days of SO many communicable diseases, do we perpetuate a NASTY and DIRTY habit like hand shaking with stranger, when a courteous NOD, or even a raised hand (think of the old stereotype "HOW" native American Indian gesture) would do just fine, without the transmission of the RHINOVIRUS, FECAL MATTER, ECOLI and a million other things people DO have on their hands?????

I am NOT a germaphobe either (if you knew my occupation you would believe me)....however, I think we need to limit UNNEEDED exposure to nasty pathogens all around us, and this seems the easiest way to go. There is NO need in this day and age for a HANDSHAKE.

Anyone else agree with me?
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AndroAngel AndroAngel
I actually feel the complete opposite of you. We, as a species, need touch to be happy and healthy. In this modern world where we so rarely touch each other we're creating even more of a rift between ourselves and the rest of the human race if we refuse such a mundane gesture as shaking hands.

Not to mention, if you want to eliminate exposure to the things people have on their hands, you'd have to eliminate exposure to anything they might have touched. That's everything from hand rails to door knobs. It isn't logical.

Further more, not being exposed to pathogens prevents you from developing antibodies to fight them. A common cold isn't such a bad thing if you've been exposed to permutations of it all your life, but if you've never had the chance to develop antibodies, it can kill you. Just look at what happened to the Native Americans when small pox was introduced when they'd never developed antibodies.
12/19/2011
Starkiller87 Starkiller87
Quote:
Originally posted by AndroAngel
I actually feel the complete opposite of you. We, as a species, need touch to be happy and healthy. In this modern world where we so rarely touch each other we're creating even more of a rift between ourselves and the rest of the human race if we ...
This 100% times a billion. You touched on everything I would have said in response to this.

I feel awkward if I meet someone new and they dont go for the handshake, like they are a cold person or something. I think its rude.

Plus everything Androangel said.
12/19/2011
Bignuf Bignuf
Quote:
Originally posted by AndroAngel
I actually feel the complete opposite of you. We, as a species, need touch to be happy and healthy. In this modern world where we so rarely touch each other we're creating even more of a rift between ourselves and the rest of the human race if we ...
I am not opposed to touch. I love to hug my family.

I am not scared of germs. I kiss my dog on the snoot.

However, I KNOW how many colds, flu and other pathogens are passes specifically by hands (look up some info on the amount of feces and urine found in the average bar counter plate of peanuts, if you want to be totally grossed out).

I do NOT need or want to shake the hand of the dude who just pee'd and wiped his rear and didn't wash his hands...as happens all day long.

Sorry...NOTHING is "happy and healthy" nor creating a stronger human bond between us, in doing so.

I understand the humanistic vision of what you are saying, but a handshake was never about that anyway. It was, actually, a way to check for weapons!

As for antibodies....I am not sure shaking hands helps all that much, but again, you make a valid point.
12/19/2011
AndroAngel AndroAngel
Quote:
Originally posted by Bignuf
I am not opposed to touch. I love to hug my family.

I am not scared of germs. I kiss my dog on the snoot.

However, I KNOW how many colds, flu and other pathogens are passes specifically by hands (look up some info on the amount of ...
It may not have started as a way to bond, but it has evolved into that. Touching things and other people tends to be a way to make them "real" in the minds of many people.

As for preventing the spread of pathogens, like I said, unless you're also going to avoid touching everything while you're out in public, there's no point avoiding a handshake.
12/19/2011
Beck Beck
I agree with the OP, I wish to only shake hands with a few people. I do not like touching many other people when I am the new person in the room. I wish just me saying hello was enough, but some people want to hug and shake hands. Well not me, especially when my hands are in my pockets to stay warm and I am embarrassed because they are all sweaty. I have the Hyperhidrosis and do not like to spread my sweat.
12/19/2011
alliegator alliegator
In western culture, I think hand-shaking is generally seen as a respect thing. If you reach out a hand and someone refuses to shake, it seems disrespectful. If hand-shaking were replaced with some other action like a standardized bow or Vulcan hand salute or something, that would be ok.
12/19/2011
indiglo indiglo
Quote:
Originally posted by AndroAngel
I actually feel the complete opposite of you. We, as a species, need touch to be happy and healthy. In this modern world where we so rarely touch each other we're creating even more of a rift between ourselves and the rest of the human race if we ...
100% agree.

And really, even if you shake someone's hand that is full of germs, they can't hurt you unless they enter your body - so if you avoid touching your eyes, mouth or nose, you'll be fine. Wash your hands and move on.

The US culture is already cold enough (compared to the cultures I am around on a daily basis). I think we need to keep the handshake. It's a sign of courtesy and respect and we need more of those, not less.
12/19/2011
Rossie Rossie
Quote:
Originally posted by indiglo
100% agree.

And really, even if you shake someone's hand that is full of germs, they can't hurt you unless they enter your body - so if you avoid touching your eyes, mouth or nose, you'll be fine. Wash your hands and move on. ...
Agree on your clean your hands after part.

I also believe we should keep handshakes as a part of our culture, and a FIRM handshake at that.
12/19/2011
darthkitt3n darthkitt3n
I'd prefer to keep handshakes. A good, firm handshake can tell a person a lot about you, especially in a professional environment. I would just make sure to wash my hands before handling any of my stuff, food, or my body.
12/19/2011
T&A1987 T&A1987
bow to each other. it shows respect, without the needless physical contact.
12/19/2011
zwee75 zwee75
I like a good, strong handshake...
12/19/2011
Rossie Rossie
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Originally posted by T&A1987
bow to each other. it shows respect, without the needless physical contact.
Bowing is more of a cultural thing, if I'm talking to Japanese or Korean people, I naturally do a lot of small bows.
12/19/2011
Errant Venture Errant Venture
I don't think it needs to go away. We've been doing this practice for thousands of years, and all those germs being transferred haven't wiped us out, so those germs, for me, aren't reason enough to get rid of it.
12/20/2011
Chirple Chirple
I sit on public toilet seats.

I'm a rebel.

Come at me, handshakes.
12/20/2011
K101 K101
I like handshakes! It's a good alternative when a hug is too much, but nothing isn't enough, ya know? I really like hand shakes actually. I'm a little bit of a clean freak, but I wash my hands at least 50 times daily so I think I can handle a handshake. You touch a lot worse by opening doors and such.
12/20/2011
ijako9 ijako9
I handshakes really are just one of those things that's been done for so long and have become social accepted its almost expected to happen in certain situations
12/20/2011
Jaimes Jaimes
I get a kick out of social formalities. I take pride in making good eye contact and offering a warm, firm handshake when I meet someone I am about to discuss business with. I am offering them a friendly respect, and indicating that they have my full attention. And you know, its the best way I know to ensure that either I will receive the same courtesy, or I will know up front if this is a person I don't want to interact with. I still enjoy saying Ma'am and Sir, and offering people different things to make them more comfortable without being overbearing. There is an art to being a gracious host or social partner, and I do enjoy working at it.
12/20/2011
Ms. Spice Ms. Spice
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Originally posted by indiglo
100% agree.

And really, even if you shake someone's hand that is full of germs, they can't hurt you unless they enter your body - so if you avoid touching your eyes, mouth or nose, you'll be fine. Wash your hands and move on. ...
that's exactly how I feel. If I had it my way, I would be hugging and kissing everyone I came in contact with. But unfortunately, since that's frowned upon in American culture, I revert to the handshake. And yes, I'm one of those types of people that pretty much demand your hand when we first meet.

I don't like how cold and distant our culture is, and eliminating our sense of touch to only a few people will only distance us more.

And I agree with the germs part; if you're that worried about them, wash your hands after you touch them. You won't be exposed to anything if you're taking proper care of yourself.
12/20/2011
Jul!a Jul!a
Quote:
Originally posted by Chirple
I sit on public toilet seats.

I'm a rebel.

Come at me, handshakes.


Me too.

It seems odd that one would want to disband handshakes because of the germs they spread, but say they aren't a germaphobe. You may do other things that a germaphobe wouldn't do, but in my eyes, trying to do away with something because it could spread germs is germaphobic behavior. I do think that our culture is getting extremely distant and disconnected as it is with the internet, cell phones, and all the other technologies that all but eliminate human contact. We are social creatures. We need interaction with other people. A handshake isn't going to kill you unless you shake hands with somebody who has something deadly and then start rubbing your eyes or licking your fingers. If you wash your hands or use a hand sanitizer after shaking someone's hands, you'll be fine. If you take away all potential germ transfers, nobody's body learns to fight the germs off, and when, not if, they get reintroduced to the society it would be nothing but bad because people would be down for weeks or months over a common cold instead of days.
12/20/2011
Ryuson Ryuson
I agree, down with the handshake and up with the hugs!
12/20/2011
UnknownGirl UnknownGirl
In a business setting handshake are rather important. When you meet somebody for the first time, a handshake is very much a part of the first impression you give. Nothing worse then shaking a limp hand with no grip.
12/20/2011
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