What do you think of the Marie Claire "Fatties" Controversy?

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Contributor: Jessica Elizabeth Jessica Elizabeth
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Originally posted by Sir
I have not heard of it, but I did read the article.

In some ways, I agree with the person, but do I find it revolting like them? By NO stretch of the imagination. I do know, however, that is extremely unhealthy, and I truly wish that these ... more
I just wanted to say that I really like the way you phrased your post
10/29/2010
Contributor: Jessica Elizabeth Jessica Elizabeth
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Originally posted by BBW Talks Toys
OK... this is a touchy subject for me... obviously... BBW... well, we all know what that means. And while I'm secure in who I am right now, it doesn't mean that I'm not looking to be healthier. (she says while chugging a Coke because TOM ... more
You are *so* right! I am in the same place. I am finally comfortable where I am, yet I am still quite overweight. Though I've lost 2 1/2 dress sizes in about 1 year, I never see it, though my boyfriend says he sees it.

It is an entire lifestyle change, not just making a decision, like you said.
10/29/2010
Contributor: kck kck
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Originally posted by Illusional
Lol, well she obviously wanted to bomb her career and she succeeded.
Heh! For realsies.

But the state in which this was published--its word choice, tone, transitions, anecdotal tangents, etc.--makes me think journalism is not a serious career or pursuit for the author of the article.

Besides the novice writing, I found the article to be quite insensitive, rude, and--above all--unprofessional. I would NEVER publish something like this and put my name on it!
10/29/2010
Contributor: Viktor Vysheslav Malkin Viktor Vysheslav Malkin
She got a good response... or was that a bad response?

She probably multiplied her radiance by 1000x. Wonder if it was worth it though...
10/29/2010
Contributor: Danielle1220 Danielle1220
I didn't hear about this till just now. I am appalled. Being a bigger girl I find it completely disgusting that this woman was even allowed to publish this article in a well known magazine like Marie Claire. Not only should the author be ashamed of herself, but the editors of the magazine should be too. This woman needs to be shot. Someone needs to give this woman "the chubby pill" so she can see what its like to be overweight for one day. She'll change her tune really quick.
10/29/2010
Contributor: Airen Wolf Airen Wolf
(EF Review Program Mentor)
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Originally posted by Persephone Nightmare
*Yay for my first forum post!*

Anyway, I came across this article when I was checking my Yahoo mail:

Should "Fatties" Get a Room? (Even on TV?)

This article has *alot* of people upset and angry about it and even ... more
WOW! First off congratulations on your first forum post! What an amazing topic to be your first!

I had not heard of the article or the tv show but I was saddened by the author's lack of sensitivity since she obviously has body image problems herself. She is no different than morbidly obese people, she still has a faulty image of herself and is abusing her body by denying it sustenance. The other end of the spectrum is the over eater/under exerciser. It is the same coin just different sides. As an over weight women I want to throttle anorexics and force feed them, and I have problems watching the crabbed and painful way they walk. It hurts my heart to see them so ashamed of themselves they literally starve themselves of any pleasure in taking care of their bodies. I have a morbidly obese Mother who has the same crabbed, painful way of walking and who eats excessively without enjoyment. It is the same disease and just as it's easy to say to an anorexic, "JUST EAT FOR FUCK'S SAKE" it's just as easy to tell and overeater, "EAT FRESH FOOD AND STOP EATING TOO MUCH!" Saying it doesn't get to the underlying problem of WHY they either won't eat or won't stop.

Metabolic issues are a large bugaboo for many of us overweight people. It's a vicious cycle of no energy leading to no fat burn leading to the need for simple carbs to continue the vicious cycle. There is no easy answer and snide, shaming articles are nothing but a symptom of the illness.
10/29/2010
Contributor: kck kck
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Originally posted by Viktor Vysheslav Malkin
She got a good response... or was that a bad response?

She probably multiplied her radiance by 1000x. Wonder if it was worth it though...
I'm inclined to think it was not worth it
10/29/2010
Contributor: Airen Wolf Airen Wolf
(EF Review Program Mentor)
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Originally posted by Persephone Nightmare
I just read the Fatshionista article and it was great! Thanks for posting it, lol. Not only was it funny, but it was very true!

And I personally think the picture of the people kissing on that page was cute and sweet
I have to agree, they looked sweet not disgusting! I happen to love two men who love big women...in fact my Sigel usually chooses women who are almost the spitting image of myself or larger because that's what he finds attractive! Arch loves a woman he can enfold in his arms and hold without feeling like he's gonna break bones. He's a tall, built man who wants a woman he can wrap himself around and she is warm and soft. Those are his words directly.

Curves and warm soft flesh appeal to many men but they are constantly told they should only want boy hipped women...it is sad on so many levels.
10/29/2010
Contributor: Darling Jen Darling Jen
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Originally posted by Airen Wolf
WOW! First off congratulations on your first forum post! What an amazing topic to be your first!

I had not heard of the article or the tv show but I was saddened by the author's lack of sensitivity since she obviously has body image ... more
Absolutely beautifully spoken.

It's sad that a journalist for a well-respected and widely known magazine doesn't have the same grasp of the issue or the education to approach it sensitively. Fail on both the author's part and the editors/powers-that-be at Marie Claire.
10/29/2010
Contributor: gone77 gone77
Honestly, I don't care about what she wrote. Her opinion has no bearing on me as a person. Considering her own issues with anorexia, I'd say she wrote this out of self-hatred and fear of gaining weight. But that's just my opinion. I believe she has the right to say whatever she pleases.

Some of the outraged and offended commenters were just as offensive to the author, and I find that interesting.

As for Marie Claire publishing it, there's no such thing as bad publicity.
10/29/2010
Contributor: Jessica Elizabeth Jessica Elizabeth
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Originally posted by gone77
Honestly, I don't care about what she wrote. Her opinion has no bearing on me as a person. Considering her own issues with anorexia, I'd say she wrote this out of self-hatred and fear of gaining weight. But that's just my opinion. I ... more
You have a very good point thanks for making it
10/29/2010
Contributor: Victoria Victoria
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Originally posted by Blinker
Marie Claire has really fucking gotten lowbrow if they posted this spewing tirade of grammatically retarded bullshit. Kelly's article (and not even a commissioned article, but rather a blog piece featuring herself typing whatever blithe thoughts ... more
Amen!
10/29/2010
Contributor: Persephone Nightmare Persephone Nightmare
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Originally posted by Airen Wolf
WOW! First off congratulations on your first forum post! What an amazing topic to be your first!

I had not heard of the article or the tv show but I was saddened by the author's lack of sensitivity since she obviously has body image ... more
Thanks! Yeah, I read it and after a bit I got to thinking "Hey, maybe this is something I can ask on EF" So I did I'm glad you think it's a good topic (not to mention two admins have commented on it so far! I really am honored, lol )

@Kristi, Jessica is right, that is a good point, and I'm glad you did bring it up. You are right that some of the commenters were just as offensive as she, I mean, some were saying that she should shoot her face off and stuff. I mean, calling her out on her rudeness and such is one thing, but people shouldn't be lowering themselves to her level (or even beneath her, in the "go shoot yourself" people's case)

Thanks everyone for putting your opinions out there! Though, now looking at the poll, I'm *so* glad that I made it private, seeing as a couple people do agree with the Marie Claire author who wrote the article. Albeit, when I saw that I couldn't help but think, "Who on Earth could agree with such things?", the fact of the matter is:

*I did ask for opinions, even if they are differing ones*

And besides, the very last thing I want is for this thread to become a sort of "angry mob" towards the people who think differently. I may not like their opinion (and I don't hesitate to say that I'm not exactly a fan of that opinion at all), but they do have the right to express it. So, in the end, I'm happy that I did make it private, that way people can vote and not fear any sort of backlash.

Luckily though, everyone is and has been very civil and I'm very glad for it
10/29/2010
Contributor: Isadorabelle Isadorabelle
I wasn't tremendously angry about the article, but I did find it quite offensive. I think that if one PDA is censored from television, it should be blanket and not restricted to one body type, race, gender, etc.

What If I'm offended by thin people making out? Maybe I'm 'grossed out' at seeing two people, who vaguely resemble colorful praying mantis, crawl all over each other. (This is 100% example. I don't think thin people look like over-sized bugs.)

At one point in the article the author says this: "I have a few friends who could be called plump. I'm not some size-ist jerk."

and at another point, remarks that "I think I'd be grossed out if I had to watch two characters with rolls and rolls of fat kissing each other ... because I'd be grossed out if I had to watch them doing anything."

That's an extremely offensive thing to say about someone. If I were to hear someone make that comment, 'jerk' would be one of the nicer things I may be inclined to say.

Everyone is entitled to have and express an opinion, but there are more constructive and tactful ways of doing it. I think that the author posed good points about the effects of obesity on our economy and about television as a whole, but I don't agree about how they chose to express everything else.
10/31/2010
Contributor: IndependentlyHappy IndependentlyHappy
I agree that the article was uncalled for. I'm not familiar with the TV show in question, but I think that the picture included with the original article is cute. If they do want to show PDA in public, it shouldn't be restricted to only thin, white, straight people. Show everything: overweight people, interracial couples, gay/lesbian couples, and everyone else under the sun are entitled to have their time on TV as well, regardless of who may "disapprove" or be "disgusted" by it. It's just like anything else: if you don't like it, change the channel. Times have gotten better but I'd love to see even more diversity on TV, not just in regards to size.

I also agree that the "I have a few friends who could be called plump. I'm not some size-ist jerk" comment sounds suspiciously like the author is making a feeble attempt to veil her ignorance. I CERTAINLY don't label my friends with regards to their weight (i.e. "my thin friend, my fatter friend, my fattest friend). They're my friends, plain and simple, and their weight doesn't affect me or offend me in any way. I'm a very thin person and my friends pick on me in a good-hearted way every now and then, but I'd be insulted if they referred to me as "that gross skinny bitch" because it's rude to draw attention to anyone's size, be they large or small.
02/26/2011
Contributor: Apirka Apirka
I had not heard about that before. While it doesn't anger me "tremendously", it does upset me. I'm a plus-size person myself and if anyone said those things to me, I would be angry with them.
03/26/2012
Contributor: funluvinmama funluvinmama
I am offended that skinny people can be intimate on tv or in public but heavy people cannot be. people are people, no matter what size they are. I believe that people think that skinny is right because of all the attention put towards skinny people and this makes people think that skinny is the only sexy way to look. I have to say, I have seen some larger women and men who look sexy.
03/26/2012
Contributor: ViVix ViVix
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Originally posted by Persephone Nightmare
*Yay for my first forum post!*

Anyway, I came across this article when I was checking my Yahoo mail:

Should "Fatties" Get a Room? (Even on TV?)

This article has *alot* of people upset and angry about it and even ... more
I have a friend who had juvenile diabetes. Her medication made her gain even more weight. Regardless of eating more healthy than any of us at lunch and exercising, her medical condition made it impossible for her to lose weight. Yet, she is a beautiful person, inside and out. Shame on this author for judging people for their weight when she has clearly had her own weight issues that she's not yet over!
03/28/2012
Contributor: ViVix ViVix
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Originally posted by Jobthingy
I watch Mike and Molly as part of my Monday night line up. It replaced Big Bang theory (which moved to another night) and being so used to the 2 hours of comedy I figured I would give it a try.

I love it.

If the writer had any fucking ... more
I agree she should be kicked in the snatch! LOL. Repeatedly...before she reproduces.
03/28/2012
Contributor: ViVix ViVix
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Originally posted by Alicia
I heard about this on "The Talk" on CBS. Sharon Osbourne called her a disgrace to women and a bitch, and I have to agree.
Go Sharon Osbourne!
03/28/2012
Contributor: ViVix ViVix
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Originally posted by DeliciousSurprise
This link is definitely worth reading... The article's author is kind of pointing the finger at Marie Claire, making the accusation that Marie Claire editors asked her to read and respond to the article quickly, knowing her history of eating ... more
No excuses.
03/28/2012