I'm a strong believer in sex education. My high school had a terrible sex ed program and there was a lot of pregnancy. Some girls had double strollers.
How much sex education is enough for our children in the school setting.
05/04/2012
We already have sex positive books about puberty and reproduction in the house for my children (10,8, and 6). However, we live in Indiana, which is an abstinence only state, so I mostly started early because I wanted to make sure they learned trufax before their heads got filled with whatever negative BS the school decided to teach. In a perfect world, comprehensive sex education, including birth controls and at least a mention of masturbation and alternate sexualities/gender identities should be standard in school. If there's a time issue, there should at least be a good selection of books on those topics available in the school library for students with questions. When I was younger, that's how I learned about sex and reproduction. I was lucky...if I hadn't found the book with the diagrams in it, I might have never heard of my clitoris, let alone found it.
05/12/2012
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We are taught about boys and girls in school and basic sex ed. but 1: Abstinence only education doesn't work 2: we are not educating our kids enough about STIs and how to protect against them 3: there are more than 2 genders and not everyone is straight and that should be addressed at school in open environments
Originally posted by
MnWolf
With times changing like they are, we have controversy in what should and shouldn't be taught in school to our children. It is common knowledge that the schools are still pushing for abstinence and that sex should wait till marriage. We know
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With times changing like they are, we have controversy in what should and shouldn't be taught in school to our children. It is common knowledge that the schools are still pushing for abstinence and that sex should wait till marriage. We know that kids are not waiting, they are experimenting, trying, and doing other things. If schools are unable to teach more then the basics of sex and the human body, and "most" parents are unwilling to engage their child(ren) in more then the basics, are some of the problems kids have with sex and sexuality not a direct reaction of our lack of openness.
What are some of your thoughts and feelings on sexual education in the school setting, and at home! less
What are some of your thoughts and feelings on sexual education in the school setting, and at home! less
05/12/2012
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The only point I want to bring up is that the parents should be punished for being shitty, not the child who was unfortunately born to them, you know? But I totally see where you're coming from. I'm sure someone has already jumped on you for this post, though, so I'm not going to further it.
Originally posted by
Annemarie
I think it should be left at home for each parent to decide how they want their kid to find out about it. The choice is simple.
If I had a kid, I would tell them everything and let them make up their own mind. My parents pushed abstinence, ... more
If I had a kid, I would tell them everything and let them make up their own mind. My parents pushed abstinence, ... more
I think it should be left at home for each parent to decide how they want their kid to find out about it. The choice is simple.
If I had a kid, I would tell them everything and let them make up their own mind. My parents pushed abstinence, and obviously it didn't work.
Schools should not be in charge of this. If a kid's parents are lazy and don't deal with the situation and the kid ends up pregnant/with an std/whatever, it's the parent's fault. You teach your kids not to put their hands on the hot stove, you teach your kids not to stick their dick in the wrong place. It's that simple.
(I do not mean to offend anyone with this post. I'm very passionate about how parenting should be handled, as it was truly mishandled in my situation.) less
If I had a kid, I would tell them everything and let them make up their own mind. My parents pushed abstinence, and obviously it didn't work.
Schools should not be in charge of this. If a kid's parents are lazy and don't deal with the situation and the kid ends up pregnant/with an std/whatever, it's the parent's fault. You teach your kids not to put their hands on the hot stove, you teach your kids not to stick their dick in the wrong place. It's that simple.
(I do not mean to offend anyone with this post. I'm very passionate about how parenting should be handled, as it was truly mishandled in my situation.) less
I think there needs to be significantly more education in schools, starting at younger ages, about sex and sexuality. Parents and schools should work together to create individualized plans for each child, whenever possible, so that the proper amount of teaching is done and so parents feel comfortable.
But, as it currently stands, teenagers are learning from pornography. They're not taught about condoms or female sexual pleasure or even what a vagina without reconstructive surgery looks like. Because, I don't know about any of you female bodied people here, but my labia are certainly bigger than Sasha Grey's.
05/12/2012
if the parents isnt there to talk then someone else will be
05/14/2012
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thank god for people like you
Originally posted by
El-Jaro
I'm a big proponent of Charter schools. I'm not a fan of morals and beliefs taught in schools, those belong outside of the curriculum.
05/18/2012
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More. Absolutely more than they do now. And this "abstinence only" thing disgusts me.
Originally posted by
MnWolf
With times changing like they are, we have controversy in what should and shouldn't be taught in school to our children. It is common knowledge that the schools are still pushing for abstinence and that sex should wait till marriage. We know
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more
With times changing like they are, we have controversy in what should and shouldn't be taught in school to our children. It is common knowledge that the schools are still pushing for abstinence and that sex should wait till marriage. We know that kids are not waiting, they are experimenting, trying, and doing other things. If schools are unable to teach more then the basics of sex and the human body, and "most" parents are unwilling to engage their child(ren) in more then the basics, are some of the problems kids have with sex and sexuality not a direct reaction of our lack of openness.
What are some of your thoughts and feelings on sexual education in the school setting, and at home! less
What are some of your thoughts and feelings on sexual education in the school setting, and at home! less
05/21/2012
the sex education given to kids at school is awful.
05/25/2012
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Agree!
Originally posted by
MnWolf
With times changing like they are, we have controversy in what should and shouldn't be taught in school to our children. It is common knowledge that the schools are still pushing for abstinence and that sex should wait till marriage. We know
...
more
With times changing like they are, we have controversy in what should and shouldn't be taught in school to our children. It is common knowledge that the schools are still pushing for abstinence and that sex should wait till marriage. We know that kids are not waiting, they are experimenting, trying, and doing other things. If schools are unable to teach more then the basics of sex and the human body, and "most" parents are unwilling to engage their child(ren) in more then the basics, are some of the problems kids have with sex and sexuality not a direct reaction of our lack of openness.
What are some of your thoughts and feelings on sexual education in the school setting, and at home! less
What are some of your thoughts and feelings on sexual education in the school setting, and at home! less
05/30/2012
Hiding sex from kids can be dangerous, what about teen pregnancy? I doubt that happens because the people involved really knew what they were doing. If you don't want your kids to be overly sexual teach them to control their urges, don't act like their genitals don't exist.
05/30/2012
As someone who went to a liberal private school and was STILL pretty clueless, I really doubt most kids get enough in the way of sex ed.
To be fair, I knew about menstruation, and safe sex practices, and the basics of PIV intercourse, but...I don't think that's really enough. I lost my virginity relatively late (20-ish) and still, at the time, knew virtually nothing about my own body. My mom had given me books to read when I was younger that had given me some idea about the clitoris, G-spot, etc, but I didn't really get it. And since I had masturbated when I was younger, but never to orgasm, so I didn't think I was really missing out on much; I thought female orgasms were these rare, magical things that could only be achieved through partner sex. It wasn't until a friend finally told me about her experience with vibrators that I started to look around online.
I know from having talked to other women that my experience is not unique; there is so little emphasis placed on female anatomy and sexuality, and I think it's a shame--even a sign that something is wrong--that so many girls start having partner sex before they know anything about pleasing themselves.
To be fair, I knew about menstruation, and safe sex practices, and the basics of PIV intercourse, but...I don't think that's really enough. I lost my virginity relatively late (20-ish) and still, at the time, knew virtually nothing about my own body. My mom had given me books to read when I was younger that had given me some idea about the clitoris, G-spot, etc, but I didn't really get it. And since I had masturbated when I was younger, but never to orgasm, so I didn't think I was really missing out on much; I thought female orgasms were these rare, magical things that could only be achieved through partner sex. It wasn't until a friend finally told me about her experience with vibrators that I started to look around online.
I know from having talked to other women that my experience is not unique; there is so little emphasis placed on female anatomy and sexuality, and I think it's a shame--even a sign that something is wrong--that so many girls start having partner sex before they know anything about pleasing themselves.
05/30/2012
My kids will be well informed with or without school teaching it, but a lot of kids won't be.....I'm for them teaching more.
06/01/2012
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Agreed
Originally posted by
Owl Identified
If a kid's parents are lazy and don't deal with the situation and the kid ends up pregnant/with an std/whatever, it's the parent's fault. You teach your kids not to put their hands on the hot stove, you teach your kids not to stick
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If a kid's parents are lazy and don't deal with the situation and the kid ends up pregnant/with an std/whatever, it's the parent's fault. You teach your kids not to put their hands on the hot stove, you teach your kids not to stick their dick in the wrong place. It's that simple.
The only problem here is the obvious, which is you are condemning children for their parents mistakes. It is far from rational to say "let her get pregnant at 15, THAT will teach her parents!" Meanwhile, she drops out of school to have a child and the rest of her life is changed completely. All of this in a (possibly unsuccessful) attempt to teach her parent a lesson. makes no sense. Children can't be sacrificed to prove a point of principle.
Children should not have to pay for the foolishness of their parents with their education, their health, or even their lives. We live in an age where HIV/AIDS is at a pandemic level and allowing even one child to become infected for the sake of teaching the parents a lesson is condemning countless others to death by infection via this single child. less
The only problem here is the obvious, which is you are condemning children for their parents mistakes. It is far from rational to say "let her get pregnant at 15, THAT will teach her parents!" Meanwhile, she drops out of school to have a child and the rest of her life is changed completely. All of this in a (possibly unsuccessful) attempt to teach her parent a lesson. makes no sense. Children can't be sacrificed to prove a point of principle.
Children should not have to pay for the foolishness of their parents with their education, their health, or even their lives. We live in an age where HIV/AIDS is at a pandemic level and allowing even one child to become infected for the sake of teaching the parents a lesson is condemning countless others to death by infection via this single child. less
06/01/2012
I they should cover everything, they should discuss everything a little bit, explain how to safely engage in oral, anal, and vaginal sex. Explain that these are all types of sex (a common misconception in schools). Talk about the LGBTQ society and everything that includes (especially trans* issues which everyone seems to ignore). They should also talk about relationships surrounding sex and explain that porn is not an educational resource.
06/01/2012
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Who? Most kids have NO ONE except other kids, who usually have improper information.
Originally posted by
pitona
if the parents isnt there to talk then someone else will be
Who were you referring to, when you said "then someone else will be"?
Because if the school isn't doing a good job, most kids have nowhere else to go.
When I was a kid, I took books out of the library to fill in the nonexistent information that both my parents and my school failed to teach me. But, I'm learning most people NEVER take the initiative to teach themselves things.
06/01/2012
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Jeez, that is absolutely disgusting. Texas? Why am I not surprised? (Let's just look at the Governor Alumni.... )
Originally posted by
NuclearTeapot
I don't think schools need to cover everything, that is what parents are for. However, I think schools should cover in a very factual matter STDs and various forms of contraceptive.
I went through my sex ed in Texas where we were taught ... more
I went through my sex ed in Texas where we were taught ... more
I don't think schools need to cover everything, that is what parents are for. However, I think schools should cover in a very factual matter STDs and various forms of contraceptive.
I went through my sex ed in Texas where we were taught "abstinence only". However, it is not just that. We were assigned to write reports on how all forms of birth control are ineffective. We were also not allowed to say the word sex. Instead we were encouraged to say fornication or my personal favorite "special hugging".
Let's just say when you tell a bunch of horny teens condoms are useless, the obvious choice will not be abstinence. We had quite a few pregnant teens, but then again they were hidden away. As soon as you started to show you were sent to the "delinquent school" with the same kids that were thrown out for drugs and violence. Also, it was a bit like you died. We weren't supposed to talk about the pregnant girls. The guys that got the girls pregnant? Oh, they could stay no problem. They weren't sluts. less
I went through my sex ed in Texas where we were taught "abstinence only". However, it is not just that. We were assigned to write reports on how all forms of birth control are ineffective. We were also not allowed to say the word sex. Instead we were encouraged to say fornication or my personal favorite "special hugging".
Let's just say when you tell a bunch of horny teens condoms are useless, the obvious choice will not be abstinence. We had quite a few pregnant teens, but then again they were hidden away. As soon as you started to show you were sent to the "delinquent school" with the same kids that were thrown out for drugs and violence. Also, it was a bit like you died. We weren't supposed to talk about the pregnant girls. The guys that got the girls pregnant? Oh, they could stay no problem. They weren't sluts. less
When you tell kids contraceptives "don't work" (as opposed to "every method may have drawbacks, but they are better than teenage pregnancy") kids think they will just forgo the contraception and then you end up with a high teen pregnancy rate and high abortion rates.
Good contraceptive information is linked to LOWER abortion rates.
Why are the Fundies so concerned about trying to make everyone live the way they say they do? (But, usually are just as or more twisted than everybody else.)
06/01/2012
Someone needs to be there for the child. If parents choose to have there heads in the sand, then the responsibility does end up falling onto the school. Because children don't have anyone else to go to. Except for other children. We all know that is not a good idea because other children tell each other things like "oral doesn't count", "you can't get pregnant if....", and so on. This is because they don't have the correct information.
Sex education is something that should be on the parents to discuss, however, if the parents aren't discussing it with their child someone needs to. They have questions that need answered.
Schools need to keep morals out of it. Sex education isn't about saving yourself for marriage. That is a moral/religious belief, not a valid teaching of sexual education. Child need to know what can happen if you have sex. How you can protect yourself and what are your options should you have sex and end up pregnant or with a STD. Cover all the information about STD's too. If parents want to cover the morals of sex that is one thing, but the school should NOT!
Sex education is something that should be on the parents to discuss, however, if the parents aren't discussing it with their child someone needs to. They have questions that need answered.
Schools need to keep morals out of it. Sex education isn't about saving yourself for marriage. That is a moral/religious belief, not a valid teaching of sexual education. Child need to know what can happen if you have sex. How you can protect yourself and what are your options should you have sex and end up pregnant or with a STD. Cover all the information about STD's too. If parents want to cover the morals of sex that is one thing, but the school should NOT!
06/01/2012
I think there needs to be more education. I mean...look at our countries teen pregnancy rates. I know they say that it has been going down, but we rate right up there with third world countries...
06/01/2012
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If you look at the patterns of countries where sex education is broadened, the teenage pregnancy rates are actually lower, along with STDs. It can only bring good things.
Originally posted by
MnWolf
With times changing like they are, we have controversy in what should and shouldn't be taught in school to our children. It is common knowledge that the schools are still pushing for abstinence and that sex should wait till marriage. We know
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more
With times changing like they are, we have controversy in what should and shouldn't be taught in school to our children. It is common knowledge that the schools are still pushing for abstinence and that sex should wait till marriage. We know that kids are not waiting, they are experimenting, trying, and doing other things. If schools are unable to teach more then the basics of sex and the human body, and "most" parents are unwilling to engage their child(ren) in more then the basics, are some of the problems kids have with sex and sexuality not a direct reaction of our lack of openness.
What are some of your thoughts and feelings on sexual education in the school setting, and at home! less
What are some of your thoughts and feelings on sexual education in the school setting, and at home! less
06/01/2012
It's not just that teens are going to have sex anyway, and should know what their body parts are called or what risks of pregnancy and disease actually are. If people are going to have sex anyway, it's very important to be able to talk about sex and CONSENT. Kids have problems with this and adults have problems with this. If you can't talk about sex you can't consent to it fully. A more open culture around sexuality -- that is, talking about it, openly and honestly -- would also help prevent sexual assault/coercion.
06/18/2012
Accurate, positive teaching should be given every year in high school. Some kids are bashful to really listen and understand, so maybe it will seep in one of those years. It's also good to have myths and rumors debunked on a somewhat routine basis.
06/18/2012
Although my children are and will be as well informed as possible, I think there are a LOT of children that WON'T get educated at home, therefore it should be taught in school as well. And I mean TAUGHT....every detail...every ugly detail...lol
06/19/2012
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I agree wholeheartedly!
Originally posted by
Owl Identified
If a kid's parents are lazy and don't deal with the situation and the kid ends up pregnant/with an std/whatever, it's the parent's fault. You teach your kids not to put their hands on the hot stove, you teach your kids not to stick
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more
If a kid's parents are lazy and don't deal with the situation and the kid ends up pregnant/with an std/whatever, it's the parent's fault. You teach your kids not to put their hands on the hot stove, you teach your kids not to stick their dick in the wrong place. It's that simple.
The only problem here is the obvious, which is you are condemning children for their parents mistakes. It is far from rational to say "let her get pregnant at 15, THAT will teach her parents!" Meanwhile, she drops out of school to have a child and the rest of her life is changed completely. All of this in a (possibly unsuccessful) attempt to teach her parent a lesson. makes no sense. Children can't be sacrificed to prove a point of principle.
Children should not have to pay for the foolishness of their parents with their education, their health, or even their lives. We live in an age where HIV/AIDS is at a pandemic level and allowing even one child to become infected for the sake of teaching the parents a lesson is condemning countless others to death by infection via this single child. less
The only problem here is the obvious, which is you are condemning children for their parents mistakes. It is far from rational to say "let her get pregnant at 15, THAT will teach her parents!" Meanwhile, she drops out of school to have a child and the rest of her life is changed completely. All of this in a (possibly unsuccessful) attempt to teach her parent a lesson. makes no sense. Children can't be sacrificed to prove a point of principle.
Children should not have to pay for the foolishness of their parents with their education, their health, or even their lives. We live in an age where HIV/AIDS is at a pandemic level and allowing even one child to become infected for the sake of teaching the parents a lesson is condemning countless others to death by infection via this single child. less
06/19/2012
I believe that some sex ed should be taught. At least anough for kids to be safe. I was apparently kind of inquisitive as a child and my mother gave me a few books to read on puberty and sex so I mostly got it from her and media/internet. I was in private schools for kids with learning disabilities which focused more on other subjects and only had sex ed once I was in a public high school. And that was some little off shoot of phys ed I think. Anyway, I didn't really need it, but other kids might and should have the opportunity.
08/21/2012
My sex ed wasn't HORRIBLE, but just completely devoid of any sort of pleasure for the women. Damn you texas
09/04/2012
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Schools should provide more education on sex and sexuality
Originally posted by
MnWolf
With times changing like they are, we have controversy in what should and shouldn't be taught in school to our children. It is common knowledge that the schools are still pushing for abstinence and that sex should wait till marriage. We know
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more
With times changing like they are, we have controversy in what should and shouldn't be taught in school to our children. It is common knowledge that the schools are still pushing for abstinence and that sex should wait till marriage. We know that kids are not waiting, they are experimenting, trying, and doing other things. If schools are unable to teach more then the basics of sex and the human body, and "most" parents are unwilling to engage their child(ren) in more then the basics, are some of the problems kids have with sex and sexuality not a direct reaction of our lack of openness.
What are some of your thoughts and feelings on sexual education in the school setting, and at home! less
What are some of your thoughts and feelings on sexual education in the school setting, and at home! less
09/05/2012
Parents should be the first ones to educate their children however a large percentage of the adult population are themselves not educated. A well rounded education should come from both the parents and the school systems. Sexual education, should be about sexual health, std and pregnancy prevention and abstinance.
09/07/2012
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It should strike a balance. Provide needed information, but with heavy emphasis on the risks, especially for unprotected. There's a way better than just the extremes people often gravitate to.
Originally posted by
MnWolf
With times changing like they are, we have controversy in what should and shouldn't be taught in school to our children. It is common knowledge that the schools are still pushing for abstinence and that sex should wait till marriage. We know
...
more
With times changing like they are, we have controversy in what should and shouldn't be taught in school to our children. It is common knowledge that the schools are still pushing for abstinence and that sex should wait till marriage. We know that kids are not waiting, they are experimenting, trying, and doing other things. If schools are unable to teach more then the basics of sex and the human body, and "most" parents are unwilling to engage their child(ren) in more then the basics, are some of the problems kids have with sex and sexuality not a direct reaction of our lack of openness.
What are some of your thoughts and feelings on sexual education in the school setting, and at home! less
What are some of your thoughts and feelings on sexual education in the school setting, and at home! less
09/18/2012
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With many schools cutting back what they are teaching in that type of class, they could really use to go back to the way things were when I was in school. However, kids are going to try things no matter what, if their parents are more engaged and open or not. I still think parents should be more open with their kids, though.
Originally posted by
MnWolf
With times changing like they are, we have controversy in what should and shouldn't be taught in school to our children. It is common knowledge that the schools are still pushing for abstinence and that sex should wait till marriage. We know
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more
With times changing like they are, we have controversy in what should and shouldn't be taught in school to our children. It is common knowledge that the schools are still pushing for abstinence and that sex should wait till marriage. We know that kids are not waiting, they are experimenting, trying, and doing other things. If schools are unable to teach more then the basics of sex and the human body, and "most" parents are unwilling to engage their child(ren) in more then the basics, are some of the problems kids have with sex and sexuality not a direct reaction of our lack of openness.
What are some of your thoughts and feelings on sexual education in the school setting, and at home! less
What are some of your thoughts and feelings on sexual education in the school setting, and at home! less
10/03/2012
Kids reach puberty younger all the time. Lets get them educated enough that they aren't having kids while they are kids.
11/03/2012