if so that is so awesome i just started reading the book
So is this whip from 50 shades of grey?
09/06/2012
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Keep in mind that 50 Shades of Grey isn't "healthy" bdsm in any sense.
09/07/2012
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Who wants to read books about healthy relationships, though? Besides, a whip is a whip--it's what you do with it that matters.
Originally posted by
potstickers
Keep in mind that 50 Shades of Grey isn't "healthy" bdsm in any sense.
09/07/2012
What's all that commotion about that book? I've heard so many people talking about it.
09/07/2012
That came out long before 50 Shades did...
Echoing that 50 Shades is not a good manual to use for BDSM relationships.
Echoing that 50 Shades is not a good manual to use for BDSM relationships.
09/07/2012
its main streamed erotica in the form of a poorly written book about someones twisted idea of what people in the BDSM lifestyle are like... its giving a bunch of vanilla people some good ideas to spice up their relationships and a whole lot of bad ideas too... i advise all my friends that are reading it to PLEASE research BDSM more thoroughly and dont try doing things from the book at home without learning all the safety precautions and history of the actions first. find someone you trust, that is actually involved in the lifestyle and talk to them about it... I am that confidant for most of my friends
09/07/2012
It'sad that people would take a piece of fiction literature and try to apply it to real life, especially in the case of sexuality and relationships, and not realize that, hey! I'm reading a piece of fiction! It's a book, for crying out loud. Just like you shouldn't watch a movie and attempt the things depicted on the screen, you shouldn't read a novel intended for entertainment and try make to adapt it to your real life.
Personally, I try to give people the benefit of the doubt. I haven't read 50 Shades of Grey, nor do I intend to (I'm a fan of a wide range of classics--For Whom the Bell Tolls is sitting on my nightstand right now). But if people who have never explored BDSM read it and get excited about trying to spice their sex lives up, then hopefully they're going to go read a bit about BDSM, research it, and get some input from knowledgeable sources before hand. I would think that a lot of people do--trying new things in the bedroom can be anxiety inducing, especially if it's more extreme than what you are used to. For those who don't go that route and end up hurting themselves or someone, well, that's unfortunate, but it's about as stupid as trying something dangerous that you saw in the movies; you can either learn about guns, go to a shooting range, become informed by a professional about gun safety and handling, and practice shooting in a safe, controlled environment, or you can watch action films and try to reenact scenes from The Matrix with your equally stupid friends. You could learn about martial arts, take classes for a particular style that interests you, and learn from a professional in a safe environment, or you could watch Jackie Chan movie and almost certainly get killed for trying to emulate him.
I know that BDSM gets a bad rap, especially for the way it gets depicted in popular media (8mm, anybody? Or how about The General's Daughter?) But it's not surprising. People in general have weird and unhealthy views about sex, usually overly romanticized, guilt-ridden views, so it's not too surprising for someone to think that BDSM=abuse. People thought that before 50 Shades of Grey, and people will think that long after the novel has faded from our memories.
Personally, I try to give people the benefit of the doubt. I haven't read 50 Shades of Grey, nor do I intend to (I'm a fan of a wide range of classics--For Whom the Bell Tolls is sitting on my nightstand right now). But if people who have never explored BDSM read it and get excited about trying to spice their sex lives up, then hopefully they're going to go read a bit about BDSM, research it, and get some input from knowledgeable sources before hand. I would think that a lot of people do--trying new things in the bedroom can be anxiety inducing, especially if it's more extreme than what you are used to. For those who don't go that route and end up hurting themselves or someone, well, that's unfortunate, but it's about as stupid as trying something dangerous that you saw in the movies; you can either learn about guns, go to a shooting range, become informed by a professional about gun safety and handling, and practice shooting in a safe, controlled environment, or you can watch action films and try to reenact scenes from The Matrix with your equally stupid friends. You could learn about martial arts, take classes for a particular style that interests you, and learn from a professional in a safe environment, or you could watch Jackie Chan movie and almost certainly get killed for trying to emulate him.
I know that BDSM gets a bad rap, especially for the way it gets depicted in popular media (8mm, anybody? Or how about The General's Daughter?) But it's not surprising. People in general have weird and unhealthy views about sex, usually overly romanticized, guilt-ridden views, so it's not too surprising for someone to think that BDSM=abuse. People thought that before 50 Shades of Grey, and people will think that long after the novel has faded from our memories.
09/07/2012
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Well said. I haven't read it. My GF just did on vacation though. I almost talked her out of buying it based only on some negative reviews I read here, but then I felt like "its just a book and if it gets her a little excited and more open sexually in some way, that's not so bad". It's not like we are going to emulate the fiction anyway and it's not up to me to tell her what she can buy or read. Most of her friends read it too. From the little I know, the plot sounds preposterous and poorly written, but its trash romance as you said.
Originally posted by
Supervixen
It'sad that people would take a piece of fiction literature and try to apply it to real life, especially in the case of sexuality and relationships, and not realize that, hey! I'm reading a piece of fiction! It's a book, for crying out
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It'sad that people would take a piece of fiction literature and try to apply it to real life, especially in the case of sexuality and relationships, and not realize that, hey! I'm reading a piece of fiction! It's a book, for crying out loud. Just like you shouldn't watch a movie and attempt the things depicted on the screen, you shouldn't read a novel intended for entertainment and try make to adapt it to your real life.
Personally, I try to give people the benefit of the doubt. I haven't read 50 Shades of Grey, nor do I intend to (I'm a fan of a wide range of classics--For Whom the Bell Tolls is sitting on my nightstand right now). But if people who have never explored BDSM read it and get excited about trying to spice their sex lives up, then hopefully they're going to go read a bit about BDSM, research it, and get some input from knowledgeable sources before hand. I would think that a lot of people do--trying new things in the bedroom can be anxiety inducing, especially if it's more extreme than what you are used to. For those who don't go that route and end up hurting themselves or someone, well, that's unfortunate, but it's about as stupid as trying something dangerous that you saw in the movies; you can either learn about guns, go to a shooting range, become informed by a professional about gun safety and handling, and practice shooting in a safe, controlled environment, or you can watch action films and try to reenact scenes from The Matrix with your equally stupid friends. You could learn about martial arts, take classes for a particular style that interests you, and learn from a professional in a safe environment, or you could watch Jackie Chan movie and almost certainly get killed for trying to emulate him.
I know that BDSM gets a bad rap, especially for the way it gets depicted in popular media (8mm, anybody? Or how about The General's Daughter?) But it's not surprising. People in general have weird and unhealthy views about sex, usually overly romanticized, guilt-ridden views, so it's not too surprising for someone to think that BDSM=abuse. People thought that before 50 Shades of Grey, and people will think that long after the novel has faded from our memories. less
Personally, I try to give people the benefit of the doubt. I haven't read 50 Shades of Grey, nor do I intend to (I'm a fan of a wide range of classics--For Whom the Bell Tolls is sitting on my nightstand right now). But if people who have never explored BDSM read it and get excited about trying to spice their sex lives up, then hopefully they're going to go read a bit about BDSM, research it, and get some input from knowledgeable sources before hand. I would think that a lot of people do--trying new things in the bedroom can be anxiety inducing, especially if it's more extreme than what you are used to. For those who don't go that route and end up hurting themselves or someone, well, that's unfortunate, but it's about as stupid as trying something dangerous that you saw in the movies; you can either learn about guns, go to a shooting range, become informed by a professional about gun safety and handling, and practice shooting in a safe, controlled environment, or you can watch action films and try to reenact scenes from The Matrix with your equally stupid friends. You could learn about martial arts, take classes for a particular style that interests you, and learn from a professional in a safe environment, or you could watch Jackie Chan movie and almost certainly get killed for trying to emulate him.
I know that BDSM gets a bad rap, especially for the way it gets depicted in popular media (8mm, anybody? Or how about The General's Daughter?) But it's not surprising. People in general have weird and unhealthy views about sex, usually overly romanticized, guilt-ridden views, so it's not too surprising for someone to think that BDSM=abuse. People thought that before 50 Shades of Grey, and people will think that long after the novel has faded from our memories. less
Neither of us are really interested in most BDSM lifestyle stuff, other than some light bondage maybe anyway.
09/07/2012
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Ummm no the sensua whip came out way before the book series. Enjoy the book though!
Originally posted by
123joy
if so that is so awesome i just started reading the book
09/07/2012
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Thanks! With this in mind, I'll go ahead and skip on buying this book. Thanks for the info I really appreciate it!
Originally posted by
Dixiemomma
its main streamed erotica in the form of a poorly written book about someones twisted idea of what people in the BDSM lifestyle are like... its giving a bunch of vanilla people some good ideas to spice up their relationships and a whole lot of bad
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its main streamed erotica in the form of a poorly written book about someones twisted idea of what people in the BDSM lifestyle are like... its giving a bunch of vanilla people some good ideas to spice up their relationships and a whole lot of bad ideas too... i advise all my friends that are reading it to PLEASE research BDSM more thoroughly and dont try doing things from the book at home without learning all the safety precautions and history of the actions first. find someone you trust, that is actually involved in the lifestyle and talk to them about it... I am that confidant for most of my friends
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09/07/2012
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The point is that the book is creating a huge wave of interest in BDSM, and most of it is based on the book with no other research done.
Originally posted by
Supervixen
It'sad that people would take a piece of fiction literature and try to apply it to real life, especially in the case of sexuality and relationships, and not realize that, hey! I'm reading a piece of fiction! It's a book, for crying out
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more
It'sad that people would take a piece of fiction literature and try to apply it to real life, especially in the case of sexuality and relationships, and not realize that, hey! I'm reading a piece of fiction! It's a book, for crying out loud. Just like you shouldn't watch a movie and attempt the things depicted on the screen, you shouldn't read a novel intended for entertainment and try make to adapt it to your real life.
Personally, I try to give people the benefit of the doubt. I haven't read 50 Shades of Grey, nor do I intend to (I'm a fan of a wide range of classics--For Whom the Bell Tolls is sitting on my nightstand right now). But if people who have never explored BDSM read it and get excited about trying to spice their sex lives up, then hopefully they're going to go read a bit about BDSM, research it, and get some input from knowledgeable sources before hand. I would think that a lot of people do--trying new things in the bedroom can be anxiety inducing, especially if it's more extreme than what you are used to. For those who don't go that route and end up hurting themselves or someone, well, that's unfortunate, but it's about as stupid as trying something dangerous that you saw in the movies; you can either learn about guns, go to a shooting range, become informed by a professional about gun safety and handling, and practice shooting in a safe, controlled environment, or you can watch action films and try to reenact scenes from The Matrix with your equally stupid friends. You could learn about martial arts, take classes for a particular style that interests you, and learn from a professional in a safe environment, or you could watch Jackie Chan movie and almost certainly get killed for trying to emulate him.
I know that BDSM gets a bad rap, especially for the way it gets depicted in popular media (8mm, anybody? Or how about The General's Daughter?) But it's not surprising. People in general have weird and unhealthy views about sex, usually overly romanticized, guilt-ridden views, so it's not too surprising for someone to think that BDSM=abuse. People thought that before 50 Shades of Grey, and people will think that long after the novel has faded from our memories. less
Personally, I try to give people the benefit of the doubt. I haven't read 50 Shades of Grey, nor do I intend to (I'm a fan of a wide range of classics--For Whom the Bell Tolls is sitting on my nightstand right now). But if people who have never explored BDSM read it and get excited about trying to spice their sex lives up, then hopefully they're going to go read a bit about BDSM, research it, and get some input from knowledgeable sources before hand. I would think that a lot of people do--trying new things in the bedroom can be anxiety inducing, especially if it's more extreme than what you are used to. For those who don't go that route and end up hurting themselves or someone, well, that's unfortunate, but it's about as stupid as trying something dangerous that you saw in the movies; you can either learn about guns, go to a shooting range, become informed by a professional about gun safety and handling, and practice shooting in a safe, controlled environment, or you can watch action films and try to reenact scenes from The Matrix with your equally stupid friends. You could learn about martial arts, take classes for a particular style that interests you, and learn from a professional in a safe environment, or you could watch Jackie Chan movie and almost certainly get killed for trying to emulate him.
I know that BDSM gets a bad rap, especially for the way it gets depicted in popular media (8mm, anybody? Or how about The General's Daughter?) But it's not surprising. People in general have weird and unhealthy views about sex, usually overly romanticized, guilt-ridden views, so it's not too surprising for someone to think that BDSM=abuse. People thought that before 50 Shades of Grey, and people will think that long after the novel has faded from our memories. less
09/08/2012
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Says who? It's creating a wave, certainly, but who says no one is looking into BDSM responsibly as a result? Because there is a media uproar? Because the attention the media gives it is sensational? Well, yeah, that's the media for you. Who says readers aren't getting an idea, and then looking into that idea on a deeper level, with responsibility?
Originally posted by
potstickers
The point is that the book is creating a huge wave of interest in BDSM, and most of it is based on the book with no other research done.
Look, fiction is fiction; the author and the novel never states that the story is a BDSM manual; all it claims to be is a work of fiction. Don't assume that everyone is too stupid to realize that.
09/08/2012
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(I didn't make it thru the whole thread, apologies if I'm repeating)
Originally posted by
123joy
if so that is so awesome i just started reading the book
Pretty flogger.. Ya know every one is talking about 50 Shades, and I firmly believe that "Geralds Game" should be the prerequisite reading BEFORE you decide you want to read BDSM fiction by authors who's actual kink street cred is dubious at best...
From Wikipedia: Gerald's Game (1992) is a psychological horror novel by Stephen King. The story is about a woman who accidentally kills her husband while she is handcuffed to the bed as part of a bondage game, and, following the subsequent realisation that she is trapped with little hope of rescue, begins to let the voices inside her head take over.
(They didn't have a safe word, he wouldn't stop when she said to stop repeatedly, she kicked him in the chest and he dropped dead from a heart attack.. they are in a remote cabin in the woods, the back door is open and he didn't put the keys where she could reach them... )
I haven't read 50 Shades and have no intention to ...I'm old enough to have gone thru Anne Rices' "Beauty Books".
Please oh please pick up any beginner BDSM book if you plan to experiment... you can do tremendous physical injury, just from lack of eduction (nerve damage from incorrectly used ropes to start).
That being said, pretty flogger.
09/08/2012
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Not everyone is too stupid, but from working in a hospital environment, stupid sex and BDSM visits to the ER are WAY up. (often mixed with drinking).
Originally posted by
Supervixen
Says who? It's creating a wave, certainly, but who says no one is looking into BDSM responsibly as a result? Because there is a media uproar? Because the attention the media gives it is sensational? Well, yeah, that's the media for you. Who
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Says who? It's creating a wave, certainly, but who says no one is looking into BDSM responsibly as a result? Because there is a media uproar? Because the attention the media gives it is sensational? Well, yeah, that's the media for you. Who says readers aren't getting an idea, and then looking into that idea on a deeper level, with responsibility?
Look, fiction is fiction; the author and the novel never states that the story is a BDSM manual; all it claims to be is a work of fiction. Don't assume that everyone is too stupid to realize that. less
Look, fiction is fiction; the author and the novel never states that the story is a BDSM manual; all it claims to be is a work of fiction. Don't assume that everyone is too stupid to realize that. less
09/08/2012
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I apologize, I didn't mean to threadjack.
Originally posted by
123joy
if so that is so awesome i just started reading the book
09/08/2012
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Yes, let's get back on topic; we can talk about how 50 Shades of Grey isn't a BDSM manual with someone who indicates that they don't know that.
Originally posted by
Neotigress
I apologize, I didn't mean to threadjack.
I thought that the Black Rose Whipping Willow whip was from the book--or that is at least how EdenFantasys was promoting it on the homepage for a while.
09/08/2012
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I assume that the author did some toy research before or during writing the book, so he may have thrown in stuff like this.
Originally posted by
123joy
if so that is so awesome i just started reading the book
10/06/2012
LeahSirenSays
Many toys from this book are actual toys. Just look around, the author never through out brands or specifics but if you read it, apparently he had a large collection. Though look for toys like this on this site, not sites selling "toys from the books" I've had my pretty Ben WA balls for years, they were under $10, the ones "from the book" are waaaay more for the same product.
Though most of these toys are categorized as novelties, I have found that the new "50 shades" ones are of a lower quality, mass produced for a thirsty uneducated audience. If you plan on even light play, a better made whip flogger or paddle are less likely to do accidental damage.
<3 hope I helped a bit!
Leah
Though most of these toys are categorized as novelties, I have found that the new "50 shades" ones are of a lower quality, mass produced for a thirsty uneducated audience. If you plan on even light play, a better made whip flogger or paddle are less likely to do accidental damage.
<3 hope I helped a bit!
Leah
10/27/2012
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I completely agree with you. Not only is the series poorly written, but what they demonstrate as BDSM, is not the 'healthy' way of it.
Originally posted by
Dixiemomma
its main streamed erotica in the form of a poorly written book about someones twisted idea of what people in the BDSM lifestyle are like... its giving a bunch of vanilla people some good ideas to spice up their relationships and a whole lot of bad
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more
its main streamed erotica in the form of a poorly written book about someones twisted idea of what people in the BDSM lifestyle are like... its giving a bunch of vanilla people some good ideas to spice up their relationships and a whole lot of bad ideas too... i advise all my friends that are reading it to PLEASE research BDSM more thoroughly and dont try doing things from the book at home without learning all the safety precautions and history of the actions first. find someone you trust, that is actually involved in the lifestyle and talk to them about it... I am that confidant for most of my friends
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02/10/2013
Though I'm not a fan of the book (it's horribly written!), I must agree that Lelo's glamorous softcore BDSM equipment does look like the kind of stuff Christian Grey might have used.
02/10/2013
i liked the books. it's interesting on a psychological level. the use of toys was pretty cool.
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