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Is BSE silicone lube compatible with the Tantus Ryder?

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Contributor: spiced spiced
I've just ordered the Tantus Ryder plug. It'll be my first foray into extended wear. I've heard some silicone lubes work well with some Tantus toys. Has anyone tried this plug with Better Sex Essentials Silicone lube?

Any other recommendations for a lube to use with the Ryder for extended wear (an hour or more)?
01/15/2013
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Contributor: Bill220 Bill220
Silicone lube can't be used with silicone toys. Check out some of the water based lubes on this site. I use JOH20 water based lube and it works well, especially if you are only going to use the toy for an hour.
01/15/2013
Contributor: spiced spiced
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Originally posted by Bill220
Silicone lube can't be used with silicone toys. Check out some of the water based lubes on this site. I use JOH20 water based lube and it works well, especially if you are only going to use the toy for an hour. ... more
Yes. I realize that, as a general rule, silicone lubes and silicone toys don't mix.

BUT--it's rather well-known that some Tantus toys are compatible with some silicone lubes. There are many discussions about this (here's one, for example).

What I don't know is whether this particular toy, the Ryder, is compatible with this particular lube, the Better Sex Essentials Silicone lube. I know I can spot test the base of the toy to see if there's any reaction but I'm hoping somebody's already tried it and that they'll respond to this.

Since silicone lubes work better than water-based ones for long-term wear, I'd like to use silicone lube if at all possible. I'm interested in working my way up to several hours if it's fun. I do have some Sliquid water-based lube which I've heard is pretty long-lasting (for a water-based lube). But I think silicone lube would be better--assuming it won't destroy the toy.
01/15/2013
Contributor: spiced spiced
Sorry if that came off too harsh, Bill220! I definitely appreciate your advice.

In case anyone else is interested... I tried some of my BSE lube on the bottom of the base of my Severin and it DID NOT work well! I put a dollop of lube on the toy and within a couple of minutes, it had reacted with the toy in a quite unexpected way. It didn't melt the silicone; instead it seemed to have bonded with the silicone. There is now a slightly raised area where the lube was, in precisely the shape of the lube glob. Strange! I won't be using Better Sex Essentials silicone lube with Tantus silicone toys again and I wouldn't recommend anyone else try it either.
01/17/2013
Contributor: spiced spiced
I wanted to follow up my previous comment: I noticed today that the Severin "recovered". The spot where the silicone lube created a raised area has completely disappeared. The toy now looks exactly as it did before the experience. Weird!

I'm still not going to use Better Sex Essentials silicone lube with my silicone toys; I'm not sure what actually happens when they bond, or whether the toy could be deformed or otherwise damaged.

Fortunately, I've found the Sliquid Organics Gel (water-based) works great with my Tantus Ryder for extended play up to about 90 minutes. That's as long as I've wanted to keep it in so for...
02/16/2013
Contributor: ScottA ScottA
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Originally posted by spiced
I wanted to follow up my previous comment: I noticed today that the Severin "recovered". The spot where the silicone lube created a raised area has completely disappeared. The toy now looks exactly as it did before the experience. ... more
I've had that happen with silicone lubes, too. It almost seems that the toy is "allergic" in that it develops "hives" that go away after a day or so. It did seem that the lube was compromised and didn't work as well, so I don't use silicone lubes on silicone toys anymore.

The word from Tantus seems to be that the more expensive lubes work, cheaper ones not.
02/17/2013
Contributor: Rin (aka Nire) Rin (aka Nire)
I'd say just to go for the spot test. My understanding is that small variations in the formula can mean that even if one batch of a silicone lube worked with a silicone toy, another batch made at a different time might not. Don't know how often it happens like that, but I'd just be checking with each new bottle anyway.

We have to keep our lovely silicone toys safe, right?
02/17/2013
Contributor: solly solly
I wouldn't risk it, there are plenty of good water-based lubes out there. Try Sliquid Dude Lube if you are looking for something thicker and longer-lasting.
02/17/2013