Gay marriage: yay or nay?

Contributor: mama2007 mama2007
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Originally posted by BBW Talks Toys
No, but it's idolatry.
no it's not. don't dwell on it. saying it to them for something they had been thru or said is one thing, dwelling on it and making it revolve around your life is another.
05/15/2012
Contributor: BBW Talks Toys BBW Talks Toys
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Originally posted by mama2007
actually 1/2 of my friends are from church and 1/2 of them are from gymnastics i use to do, neighborhood friends and school friends who are not Christians. I don't "keep myself" away from people who are gay, i don't even know anyone ... more
Also, by your thinking, you could do anything and ask forgiveness and you'd have a clean slate. So, none of your past ever matters?

I AM REALLY CONFUSED
05/15/2012
Contributor: BBW Talks Toys BBW Talks Toys
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Originally posted by mama2007
no it's not. don't dwell on it. saying it to them for something they had been thru or said is one thing, dwelling on it and making it revolve around your life is another.
I find it hard to believe that you've never idolized anyone. Everyone has, at some point in their life.
05/15/2012
Contributor: Starkiller87 Starkiller87
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Originally posted by BBW Talks Toys
I find it hard to believe that you've never idolized anyone. Everyone has, at some point in their life.
shhhhh she has to pretend that shes perfect or someone will rip her apart.
05/15/2012
Contributor: Beck Beck
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Originally posted by BBW Talks Toys
Also, by your thinking, you could do anything and ask forgiveness and you'd have a clean slate. So, none of your past ever matters?

I AM REALLY CONFUSED
By this thinking it also leaves the door open for more sin. IMO this is were evil hides its ugly face. What a better place to hide then right out in the open?
05/15/2012
Contributor: wrmbreze wrmbreze
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Originally posted by Starkiller87
shhhhh she has to pretend that shes perfect or someone will rip her apart.
You make me smile...
05/15/2012
Contributor: namelesschaos namelesschaos
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Originally posted by mama2007
I just got through saying that I got ONE because of something I went thru 6 yrs ago and wanted to have the resemblence for something. I am not sure what the Bible says about tatoos, my dad use to tell us as kids a lot about that but i forgot the ... more
"I just got through saying that I got ONE because of something I went thru 6 yrs ago and wanted to have the resemblence for something"

Translation: "But... but...but I'm special I really want this so I totally get a pass on breaking the laws in the bible. because I really really want to"

You haven't explained anything. You haven't explained why you aren't going out and demanding tattoo parlors be banned and renouncing your sinful tattoo, which would be the logical consistent with you forcing other people to obey your biblical laws. You doge the question each time its asked. I don't know what the bible say isn't an answer acceptable either you had plenty of time to sit and read it, you can't cry ignorance when it convenient for you.

Bible: Tattoos are sinful link . Your encouraging us to be sinful every-time you post with that avatar. Your are brazen, displaying your gross, evil, and unnatural ways in public! When you renoounce your evil "witchcraft-rooted tattoo lifestyle" then you can come in hear and start telling us about this so called "sinful gay lifestyle". Till then your nothing more then hypocrite that's picking and chose which parts of the bible to follow.
05/15/2012
Contributor: mama2007 mama2007
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Originally posted by BBW Talks Toys
Also, by your thinking, you could do anything and ask forgiveness and you'd have a clean slate. So, none of your past ever matters?

I AM REALLY CONFUSED
@BBW Talks Toys - I don't know the exact refrence verse but it says "Ask and it will be given, seek and ye shall find, knock and the door will be open to you". Wrongs you've done in your past may not be forgiven by people even if you ask for their forgiveness, but that's their choice whether or not to. If you're a child of God and are sincere about being sorry for what they've done wrong and ask God to forgive them. It matters but it's in the past; if you've done your part in asking Him and others to forgive you of the wrong doings you did, God will forgive you and doesn't keep record of wrongs. That's in there too but I can't think of the verse of that. It says if you seek Him whole heartedly and ask for His forgiveness and turn from your ways, He doesn't keep record of wrongs. I have never had a reason to idolize anyone. To follow in someone's footsteps in being a good parent like them isn't idolizing.

@starkiller87 - no one is perfect nor do i try to be.
05/15/2012
Contributor: BBW Talks Toys BBW Talks Toys
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Originally posted by Beck
Me too!!

Allow me to reply with:

05/15/2012
Contributor: BBW Talks Toys BBW Talks Toys
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Originally posted by namelesschaos
"I just got through saying that I got ONE because of something I went thru 6 yrs ago and wanted to have the resemblence for something"

Translation: "But... but...but I'm special I really want this so I totally get a pass on ... more


love you
05/15/2012
Contributor: BBW Talks Toys BBW Talks Toys
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Originally posted by mama2007
@BBW Talks Toys - I don't know the exact refrence verse but it says "Ask and it will be given, seek and ye shall find, knock and the door will be open to you". Wrongs you've done in your past may not be forgiven by people even if ... more
Again, I ask you:

What if one of your children is gay?
05/15/2012
Contributor: P'Gell P'Gell
I prayed for a new car and didn't get one. So, I stole one and then prayed for forgiveness.

It was easier that way....


(I, personally, have never stolen a car nor anything like it. This was simply a.... parable.)
05/15/2012
Contributor: wrmbreze wrmbreze
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Originally posted by mama2007
@BBW Talks Toys - I don't know the exact refrence verse but it says "Ask and it will be given, seek and ye shall find, knock and the door will be open to you". Wrongs you've done in your past may not be forgiven by people even if ... more
For the record if you do something that you know is wrong and then say I am sorry, does that mean you should be forgiven...?


Isn't that technically a lie.....?
I find that the people I knew growing up did a whole lot of S**t during the week and every Sunday they were up in front of the entire church saying sorry I was wrong only to do the same crap Mon- Sat.
05/15/2012
Contributor: mama2007 mama2007
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Originally posted by namelesschaos
"I just got through saying that I got ONE because of something I went thru 6 yrs ago and wanted to have the resemblence for something"

Translation: "But... but...but I'm special I really want this so I totally get a pass on ... more
this whole post makes me laugh. i reply, because it's hard not voicing an opinion about something. i'm in no witchcraft crap, that stuff is stupid. and if YOU and anyone else doesn't LIKE a opinion, simply ignore it. ppl post such opposing topics yet get defensive when someone disagrees with them? ALWAYS happens, doesnt matter what the topics are being discussed. oh and i'm quite sure 1/2 of the community has tatoos and are Christians too. Take a poll if u want.

if people always agreed with every single thing in life, it would be very boring. debates are always fun to see who puts who down for their opinions and who is for it vs against it.

And again... if you don't like it, that is fine by me. i'm against it. woop-di-doo. i don't really care who agrees with me about the law in NC or not. it's an opinion. every1 has one
05/15/2012
Contributor: wrmbreze wrmbreze
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Originally posted by namelesschaos
"I just got through saying that I got ONE because of something I went thru 6 yrs ago and wanted to have the resemblence for something"

Translation: "But... but...but I'm special I really want this so I totally get a pass on ... more
Can I just say..how awesome you are..

NamelessChaos.....You' re my hero..( in my best Cameron Frye voice)
05/15/2012
Contributor: wrmbreze wrmbreze
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Originally posted by mama2007
this whole post makes me laugh. i reply, because it's hard not voicing an opinion about something. i'm in no witchcraft crap, that stuff is stupid. and if YOU and anyone else doesn't LIKE a opinion, simply ignore it. ppl post such ... more
But the question you fail to answer time and again is How can you pick and choose what to follow.. You are either a Christian all the way or not at all..No middle ground.


For the record..I did say before if you say that you don't want to argue and then you do.. Does that make you a hypocrite?
05/15/2012
Contributor: mama2007 mama2007
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Originally posted by wrmbreze
For the record if you do something that you know is wrong and then say I am sorry, does that mean you should be forgiven...?


Isn't that technically a lie.....?
I find that the people I knew growing up did a whole lot of S**t during ... more
No, if you're truly sorry for what u did and change your life around to not do it again, it's not a lie. work on your life and change what's not good in it to make your life better.

And I was very sheltered and never drank alchohol until the month before i turned 21, have had sex with ONE person in my life when i was almost 21- the man i am married to, have never done drugs. i have lots of friends who did the complete opposite. no they never went to church, it's just an example.
05/15/2012
Contributor: BBW Talks Toys BBW Talks Toys
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Originally posted by mama2007
this whole post makes me laugh. i reply, because it's hard not voicing an opinion about something. i'm in no witchcraft crap, that stuff is stupid. and if YOU and anyone else doesn't LIKE a opinion, simply ignore it. ppl post such ... more
He didn't say you were into witchcraft. He was using sarcasm. Difficult to interpret in writing for some people, I know; but I assure you that he is just dripping with it. (that sounded kinda dirty... turned me on a little! Oh crap, I'm going to hell.)
05/15/2012
Contributor: wrmbreze wrmbreze
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Originally posted by mama2007
No, if you're truly sorry for what u did and change your life around to not do it again, it's not a lie. work on your life and change what's not good in it to make your life better.

And I was very sheltered and never drank ... more
But you don't actually have to go to church to be with God. Since he is everywhere, you can speak to him anywhere you want to.

But how can you pick and choose to follow?
05/15/2012
Contributor: mama2007 mama2007
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Originally posted by wrmbreze
But the question you fail to answer time and again is How can you pick and choose what to follow.. You are either a Christian all the way or not at all..No middle ground.


For the record..I did say before if you say that you don't want ... more
The ones I've been told that is still effective in this day and age are the ones that I know from front to back. quit asking me ?s to start and keep an arguement and ill quit answering them. i turned the alerts off for this post because i find it highly annoying. soo if anyone else asks ?s it likely won't be answered because I'm tired of wasting my time on this topic. i do enough of it at night sometimes on facebook debates

AND

my kids will not be gay. My husband and I will both teach them right from wrong. They'll grow up knowing that relationships and marriage is to be between a man and woman, pro- life and know that abortion is murder. One good reason I do not want them in public school, but have no choice because private school is too pricey. I'm sure we could afford it but they'd be sheltered like I was.
05/15/2012
Contributor: T&A1987 T&A1987
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Originally posted by mama2007
The ones I've been told that is still effective in this day and age are the ones that I know from front to back. quit asking me ?s to start and keep an arguement and ill quit answering them. i turned the alerts off for this post because i find it ... more
so if someone doesn't know right from wrong they become gay?
05/15/2012
Contributor: BBW Talks Toys BBW Talks Toys
FINALLY!
05/15/2012
Contributor: wrmbreze wrmbreze
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Originally posted by mama2007
The ones I've been told that is still effective in this day and age are the ones that I know from front to back. quit asking me ?s to start and keep an arguement and ill quit answering them. i turned the alerts off for this post because i find it ... more
You can't teach sexual orientation..Your kids will love who they want to love in spite of their parental upbringing. You started the whole thing when you said what you said. We were just trying to clarify and you spouted untrue things. Your opinion is your opinion and our opinion is our opinion.

If you don't want anyone to question you, perhaps you should stay away from controversial subjects. Just saying...

I know that I don't live my life 100% the way that I should but I work on it and I don't try to force others to think the way that I do. I like to discuss things and that's what I was doing. If it is annoying you then just stay away from topics like this.
05/15/2012
Contributor: wrmbreze wrmbreze
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Originally posted by BBW Talks Toys
FINALLY!
05/15/2012
Contributor: BBW Talks Toys BBW Talks Toys
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Originally posted by mama2007
The ones I've been told that is still effective in this day and age are the ones that I know from front to back. quit asking me ?s to start and keep an arguement and ill quit answering them. i turned the alerts off for this post because i find it ... more
I hope you're right, because if one of your kids is gay they won't be able to tell you and children who feel so alone and alienated in their family more likely to go the route that many other children have gone. And wouldn't you just be devastated if your closed-mindedness made your child feel they had no other choice?
05/15/2012
Contributor: mama2007 mama2007
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Originally posted by wrmbreze
You can't teach sexual orientation..Your kids will love who they want to love in spite of their parental upbringing. You started the whole thing when you said what you said. We were just trying to clarify and you spouted untrue things. Your ... more
i think that's a good idea from now on - me not reply or read controversial topics here or on facebook. and yes i am 100% with u on everyone's opinion is their own.

And it's quite possible that if you teach your kids (talking about anyone in general) about what's appropriate vs innappropriate in dating and marriage and life and w/e that they'll steer clear of that. i did.

Thanks for the inputs though. helped seeing it from 1000 different peoples prospective
05/15/2012
Contributor: mama2007 mama2007
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Originally posted by BBW Talks Toys
I hope you're right, because if one of your kids is gay they won't be able to tell you and children who feel so alone and alienated in their family more likely to go the route that many other children have gone. And wouldn't you just be ... more
i hope i'm right too. my parents raised me like that. and yes i would be.
05/15/2012
Contributor: wrmbreze wrmbreze
I will love my kids regardless of their sexual orientation or anything else that happens in their lives because they are mine. I made the commitment to love them and take care of them as long as I was able the day that I decided to have them.
05/15/2012
Contributor: Starkiller87 Starkiller87
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Originally posted by mama2007
i hope i'm right too. my parents raised me like that. and yes i would be.
Your parents didnt raise you right. They raised you with hate and fear in your heart. Im sorry that you parents didnt raise you to be accepting and love everyone for who they are.
05/15/2012
Contributor: wrmbreze wrmbreze
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Originally posted by Starkiller87
Your parents didnt raise you right. They raised you with hate and fear in your heart. Im sorry that you parents didnt raise you to be accepting and love everyone for who they are.
I agree. I thought Jesus wanted everyone to love each other.
05/15/2012